UK British News Megathread - aka CWCissey's news thread

https://news.sky.com/story/row-over-new-greggs-vegan-sausage-rolls-heats-up-11597679 (https://archive.ph/5Ba6o)

A heated row has broken out over a move by Britain's largest bakery chain to launch a vegan sausage roll.

The pastry, which is filled with a meat substitute and encased in 96 pastry layers, is available in 950 Greggs stores across the country.

It was promised after 20,000 people signed a petition calling for the snack to be launched to accommodate plant-based diet eaters.


But the vegan sausage roll's launch has been greeted by a mixed reaction: Some consumers welcomed it, while others voiced their objections.

View image on Twitter


spread happiness@p4leandp1nk
https://twitter.com/p4leandp1nk/status/1080767496569974785

#VEGANsausageroll thanks Greggs

7
10:07 AM - Jan 3, 2019
See spread happiness's other Tweets
Twitter Ads info and privacy


Cook and food poverty campaigner Jack Monroe declared she was "frantically googling to see what time my nearest opens tomorrow morning because I will be outside".

While TV writer Brydie Lee-Kennedy called herself "very pro the Greggs vegan sausage roll because anything that wrenches veganism back from the 'clean eating' wellness folk is a good thing".

One Twitter user wrote that finding vegan sausage rolls missing from a store in Corby had "ruined my morning".

Another said: "My son is allergic to dairy products which means I can't really go to Greggs when he's with me. Now I can. Thank you vegans."

View image on Twitter


pg often@pgofton
https://twitter.com/pgofton/status/1080772793774624768

The hype got me like #Greggs #Veganuary

42
10:28 AM - Jan 3, 2019
See pg often's other Tweets
Twitter Ads info and privacy


TV presenter Piers Morgan led the charge of those outraged by the new roll.

"Nobody was waiting for a vegan bloody sausage, you PC-ravaged clowns," he wrote on Twitter.

Mr Morgan later complained at receiving "howling abuse from vegans", adding: "I get it, you're all hangry. I would be too if I only ate plants and gruel."

Another Twitter user said: "I really struggle to believe that 20,000 vegans are that desperate to eat in a Greggs."

"You don't paint a mustach (sic) on the Mona Lisa and you don't mess with the perfect sausage roll," one quipped.

Journalist Nooruddean Choudry suggested Greggs introduce a halal steak bake to "crank the fume levels right up to 11".

The bakery chain told concerned customers that "change is good" and that there would "always be a classic sausage roll".

It comes on the same day McDonald's launched its first vegetarian "Happy Meal", designed for children.

The new dish comes with a "veggie wrap", instead of the usual chicken or beef option.

It should be noted that Piers Morgan and Greggs share the same PR firm, so I'm thinking this is some serious faux outrage and South Park KKK gambiting here.

 

[whoishomermynameis]

Police officer in UK had his baton used against him by suspect after dropping it on the ground during attempts to arrest him

The suspect can be seen on camera striking the officer full force with his cosh after picking it up whilst they struggled to arrest him. He can then be seen making off at speed on an electric motorbike

1.mp4

UK police dealing with black criminals:

0:08

 

[Eekum Bokum]

Strange how it’s only Big Mo who’s untouchable with hurty words here. I’d wager you could happily insult the royal family and the PM in public and not get arrested. You can slander the Pope and the various Christian religions all day and night with no police problems.

There’s no two tier policing though, this is all sensitivity and diversity. Apparently.

To be fair the Pope isn't going to send the Swiss Guard after you if you call him a twat.

 

[Briananderson1138]

He said he believed global welfare was paramount and that therefore he had a greater obligation to someone in Burundi than to someone in Birmingham.

I believe the technical term for that is "treason".

 

[Exegesis]

Can someone explain to me why HS2 is being put underground when there's a perfectly good countryside to build on top of normally?

 

[BrightonAndHoveAlbion]

Can someone explain to me why HS2 is being put underground when there's a perfectly good countryside to build on top of normally?

Barratt Homes and Taylor Wimpey have reserved the countryside already.

 

[femboy fart huffer]

Can someone explain to me why HS2 is being put underground when there's a perfectly good countryside to build on top of normally?

Because it's never going to be a real thing anyway so fuck it let's put it underground and of course that will need a few extra billion to be paid to the architects and companies that are friends with politicians and the public will never see that money ever again.

 

[Exegesis]

Barratt Homes and Taylor Wimpey have reserved the countryside already.

Invoke eminent domain and move the developments over a little. This happens all the time around the world and even in other UK projects so why should these developments specifically get special treatment? By saying 'reserved' it sounds like nothing has been built or even permitted so it's even less of a problem.

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

With the game being delayed by at least an hour, my prediction that the game will still be on when the 5am curfew happens is looking increasingly likely.

 

[Anomalous Coward]

it can be basically applied carte blanche to any situation the governing bodies feel like.

That's the entire point, they also never 'feel like' applying it in your favour. The laws exist as a justification for 'die whitey' which is why you can never even come out on top with a technicality either. They want us to die, that is the point.

 

[teriyakiburns]

Can someone explain to me why HS2 is being put underground when there's a perfectly good countryside to build on top of normally?

Railways have to be built as flat as possible, or with the minimum grade possible, because trains are very bad at climbing hills. That means building a lot of tunnels and cuttings, as well as bridges and banks, to get it through hills and over valkeys.

 

[Exegesis]

Railways have to be built as flat as possible, or with the minimum grade possible, because trains are very bad at climbing hills. That means building a lot of tunnels and cuttings, as well as bridges and banks, to get it through hills and over valkeys.

I am familiar with the grade and curve requirements for high speed rail.
You could just do what every normal country does by putting them on viaducts and embankments for a fraction of the cost. For example, you'd see that there's a steep area for a few miles and you could preemptively make the train go higher up several miles behind so that whenever it does encounter that steep area, it'll be able to travel a couple meters above the ground going straight and eventually meet up with it once it reaches the peak or somewhere nearby it. You could also make the embankment go out for even longer by making it increase in elevation with a 2% grade or something even higher so as to prevent the section in the lower area from being on a high viaduct and save on costs.
Tunneling is unimaginably expensive so any solution which involves viaducts or embankments is almost always cheaper especially when working with the very calm terrain of England. Even CAHSR is managing to be cheaper per mile than HS2.

 

[Clem Fandango]

I am familiar with the grade and curve requirements for high speed rail.
You could just do what every normal country does by putting them on viaducts and embankments for a fraction of the cost. For example, you'd see that there's a steep area for a few miles and you could preemptively make the train go higher up several miles behind so that whenever it does encounter that steep area, it'll be able to travel a couple meters above the ground going straight and eventually meet up with it once it reaches the peak or somewhere nearby it. You could also make the embankment go out for even longer by making it increase in elevation with a 2% grade or something even higher so as to prevent the section in the lower area from being on a high viaduct and save on costs.
Tunneling is unimaginably expensive so any solution which involves viaducts or embankments is almost always cheaper especially when working with the very calm terrain of England. Even CAHSR is managing to be cheaper per mile than HS2.

It has viaduct where it needs them. For example, the Colne Valley Viaduct.

I guess you could build over the Chilterns with viaduct, but I think there's quite a lot of rich people in that area that don't want their view spoilt. So they went with tunnels for that bit.

 

[Exegesis]

It has viaduct where it needs them. For example, the Colne Valley Viaduct.

I guess you could build over the Chilterns with viaduct, but I think there's quite a lot of rich people in that area that don't want their view spoilt. So they went with tunnels for that bit.

Then how the hell is this managing to cost more than CAHSR per mile despite going through far better terrain? CAHSR is a massively inflated shitshow of a project that's also being built in a geologically active area so managing to make something substantially worse is an achievement. Also I looked at the route map and I see that you guys made a 13 kilometer long tunnel because you didn't want to demolish and relocate a few rural structures and suburban homes. Clearly you people are unfamiliar with the concept of eminent domain.

 

[Clem Fandango]

Then how the hell is this managing to cost more than CAHSR per mile despite going through far better terrain? CAHSR is a massively inflated shitshow of a project that's also being built in a geologically active area so managing to make something substantially worse is an achievement. Also I looked at the route map and I see that you guys made a 13 kilometer long tunnel because you didn't want to demolish and relocate a few rural structures and suburban homes. Clearly you people are unfamiliar with the concept of eminent domain.

I think most of the budget has gone on lawyers for various legal challenges, as well as millions splurged on consultants and consultations. Probably not that much has actually been spent on construction.

 

[Exegesis]

I think most of the budget has gone on lawyers for various legal challenges, as well as millions splurged on consultants and consultations. Probably not that much has actually been spent on construction.

Kinda like how you guys spent $800 million on planning to build a tunnel?
This is why environmental regulations and most regulations in general need to get gutted.

 

[teriyakiburns]

You could just do what every normal country does by putting them on viaducts and embankments for a fraction of the cost.

Not when you're starting at the bottom of a hill at both ends. There's a lot of elevated terrain between London and Birmingham. You'd have to climb it to build viaducts. Might as well just cut through.

Then how the hell is this managing to cost more than CAHSR per mile despite going through far better terrain?

Everyone, and I mean everyone, subcontracts to avoid liability. Responsibility for any failure always falls down through a dozen levels of subcontractors to some one-man-band operating out of a shed in Wolverhampton, that only exists to shoulder the fines for overruns. Add in the environmental consultancy, compliance requirements, health and safety, climate responsibility statements for every sub, climate impact assessments, bat housing, carbon offsets, etc etc... it all adds up. Then consider the bureaucratic mindset that insists on cancelling things once most of the money has already been spent, just so another round of planning can take place for the inevitable mitigation programme to fix the half-completee works, which soaks another five years and several millions. Nothing gets done here any more.

 

[UselessRubberKeyboard]

I wish that I was not able to say that. I would prefer to not have every school memory recontextualised. Here I was thinking that it was just chavs being chavs as to why they were talking about sex and alcohol and drugs as early teenagers. Maybe it was, maybe they were just chavs, but I would still rather not have the thought of 'oh shit were all of the people I went to school with actually being mass raped by fucking pakis' as a credible and genuine possibility.

I hate to tell you this, but that’s exactly the situation some of us were in. Massive powerlevel here but at least it wasn’t forruns for me (running the show, anyway, there were plenty of forruns involved in the purchasing), but there were other girls and even a lad at my school involved in some really messed up shit. That’s not including the kids who were abused by family members, family friends etc without it being for financial benefit.

The reality of child sexual abuse is way more massive than anyone ever wants to see. Those that decide it’s a financial free for all to make a big profit, though, need [ fedposting deleted. ]

Some of the stories my classmates had would make you sick. It’s the kind of stuff that only comes out under swearing of death or as stupid jokes that no-one wants to take seriously but everyone knows are true. There’s so many ways kids tell, and no-one listens.

Barratt Homes and Taylor Wimpey have reserved the countryside already.

But not for you and me!

Newsflash: England have scored.

Edit: England have scored again in less than 90 seconds. Blimey!

Edit again: Now Mexico have scored three mins later.

I just want a cup of tea, fucking hell lads.

 

[Exegesis]

Not when you're starting at the bottom of a hill at both ends. There's a lot of elevated terrain between London and Birmingham. You'd have to climb it to build viaducts. Might as well just cut through.

No, you cut through at the top alone. This only requires a mile or two of shallow tunneling in most cases. What we're seeing with HS2 is completely different because they're doing it for the full thing or at least an excessive amount of it.

Everyone, and I mean everyone, subcontracts to avoid liability. Responsibility for any failure always falls down through a dozen levels of subcontractors to some one-man-band operating out of a shed in Wolverhampton, that only exists to shoulder the fines for overruns. Add in the environmental consultancy, compliance requirements, health and safety, climate responsibility statements for every sub, climate impact assessments, bat housing, carbon offsets, etc etc... it all adds up. Then consider the bureaucratic mindset that insists on cancelling things once most of the money has already been spent, just so another round of planning can take place for the inevitable mitigation programme to fix the half-completee works, which soaks another five years and several millions. Nothing gets done here any more.

You're ignoring the fact that my critique of the alignment extends to the factors which created it.

 

[Jango Fett]

TOTAL ARYAN VICTORY.

X

 

[tehpope]

TOTAL ARYAN VICTORY

quotes around "aryan". How many of those players are actual white brits? Barely any IIRC.