4CHAN COMMUNITY SUPPORT LLC and LOLCOW, LLC, d/b/a KIWI FARMS, Plaintiffs, v. THE UK OFFICE OF COMMUNICATIONS, a/k/a OFCOM

4CHAN COMMUNITY SUPPORT LLC v. UK OFFICE OF COMMUNICATIONS 1:25-cv-02880 — District Court, District of Columbia

  • Docket No.
    1:25-cv-02880
  • Court
    District Court, District of Columbia
  • Filed
    26 de Ago, 2025
  • Nature of Suit
    440 Civil Rights: Other
  • Cause
    28:2201 Declaratory Judgment
  • Jurisdiction
    Federal Question
  • Jury Demand
    None
  • Last Filing
    15 de Ene, 2026

Parties (3)

Parties
UK OFFICE OF COMMUNICATIONS, LOLCOW, LLC, 4CHAN COMMUNITY SUPPORT LLC

Recent Filings (showing 5 of 31)

# Date Description Filing
13 15 de Ene, 2026 REPLY to opposition to motion re 8 Motion to Dismiss/Lack of Jurisdiction, filed by UK OFFICE OF COMMUNICATIONS. (Kry, Robert) (Entered: 01/16/2026) 1 2
1 de Ene, 2026  
1 de Ene, 2026 Set/Reset Deadlines: Replies due by 1/19/2026. (tj)
31 de Dic, 2025  
31 de Dic, 2025 MINUTE ORDER granting 12 Motion for Extension of Time to File Reply: It is hereby ORDERED that Defendant shall file its Reply to Plaintiffs Opposition to Defendant's Motion to Dismiss on or before January 19, 2026. SO ORDERED. Signed by Judge Rudolph Contreras on 1/1/2026. (lcrc2)
Splitting hairs, but it does exist.
It's just exclusively the right of politicians.
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The link you provide says it only protects them within Parliament, but it also extends beyond it. Again, it's a privilege enjoyed only by MPs and the like, even party leaders. It's why they couldn't officially "charge" Oswald Mosley in the 1940s, though they did "intern" him.
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The Bill of Rights 1689 overwrote all the previous speech-inhibiting bills passed by parliament up to that point. The website can't highlight any significant examples of free speech violation between 1689 and 1986 because the UK had freedom of speech.

There is a strong argument to be made that freedom of speech was stronger in the UK prior to the 1980s onward than it is today. The article points correctly to the bill which bears the blame for all of this: The Public Order Act 1986, This was passed by the Conservative party in response to widespread strikes and disorder following the wave of corporate and industrial offshoring to China which fucked the whole West over at the time. It also acts as precedent for why you shouldn't pass a law that is surely to come bite you in the ass again, especially if it involves restricting civil liberties.

I wanted it noted that in response to the Boston Tea Party, the British government passed the colloquially known, "Intolerable Acts."
What's noteworthy about these acts is not a single one of them actually prevented or inhibited individual speech or the right to protest. There was never any attempts to arrest the then-leaders of the revolution because Freedom of Speech was actually a valued tenet. Say what you will about taxation, but the right to gather and speak what you will was sacrosanct. One of the acts—The Massachusetts Government Act of 1774—gave the governor the right to dissolve the provincial congress, when an alternative one was set up in defiance of the order, nothing could be done about it. There was never even an order issued for the arrest of any revolutionary leader, with the order preceding the Battle of Concord and Lexington be the destruction of supplies (The order issued on the 18th of April 1775)
Lieut. Colonel Smith, 10th Regiment ’Foot,

Sir,

Having received intelligence, that a quantity of Ammunition, Provisions, Artillery, Tents and small Arms, have been collected at Concord, for the Avowed Purpose of raising and supporting a Rebellion against His Majesty, you will March with a Corps of Grenadiers and Light Infantry, put under your Command, with the utmost expedition and Secrecy to Concord, where you will seize and distroy all Artillery, Ammunition, Provisions, Tents, Small Arms, and all Military Stores whatever. But you will take care that the Soldiers do not plunder the Inhabitants, or hurt private property.

You have a Draught of Concord, on which is marked the Houses, Barns, &c, which contain the above military Stores. You will order a Trunion to be knocked off each Gun, but if its found impracticable on any, they must be spiked, and the Carriages destroyed. The Powder and flower must be shook out of the Barrels into the River, the Tents burnt, Pork or Beef destroyed in the best way you can devise. And the Men may put Balls of lead in their pockets, throwing them by degrees into Ponds, Ditches &c., but no Quantity together, so that they may be recovered afterwards. If you meet any Brass Artillery, you will order their muzzles to be beat in so as to render them useless.

You will observe by the Draught that it will be necessary to secure the two Bridges as soon as possible, you will therefore Order a party of the best Marchers, to go on with expedition for the purpose.

A small party of Horseback is ordered out to stop all advice of your March getting to Concord before you, and a small number of Artillery go out in Chaises to wait for you on the road, with Sledge Hammers, Spikes, &c.

You will open your business and return with the Troops, as soon as possible, with I must leave to your own Judgment and Discretion.

I am, Sir,

Your most obedient humble servant
Thos. Gage.​

None of this is to rebuke the American revolution, but mostly to punctuate why I resent the idea the UK "never had freedom of speech" or anything that amounts to it. The reason being is it belittles the fact we did have it, and until fairly recently too. It makes the notion of regaining it far more possible because of how easily it was stolen in the first place. It's not some mythological right that we could only gleam from across the Atlantic in envy, it was taken by a government that didn't want to lift a finger in response to things getting shitter and to clamp down on organic organisation. Before then being used as the foundation to prevent native people from criticising browns (Harassment Act 1997 + Racial and Religious Hatred Act 2007). 5 bills more or less stand in the way of Freedom of Speech in the UK, and they can all be un-done with a single bill.

As a side note: even gun rights only saw the severest restrictions in the 90s:
Firearms Amendment Act 1997 & Firearms Amendment Act (no 2) 1997. (These were in response to a mass shooting by a man who acquired a handgun illegally so wouldn't have even been subject to any checks in the first place).

Up until this point you could own any handgun chambered in any calibre. But with the big unpleasant caveat of a certificate, and with the knowledge that "self defence" wasn't a valid reason to own a firearm since 1937.
Also notable: much like the restrictions on organising and free speech in the Public Order Act 1986, firearm usage was restricted shortly after mass strikes and protests following severe economic downturn at the start of the decade. And, just like speech restrictions, gun restrictions only made more severe once the Conservative government got replaced with a Labour one.

I won't argue that the USA is unparalleled in this regard, Americans do have the best gun rights, and it's probably the thing I most envy about the USA.

The moral of the story: The Conservative and Labour parties have always been colossal faggots 20th century political parties would sooner restrict civil liberties than actually solve the issues faced by the people they represent.
 
Also. What are jannies getting paid in? Ego points? whorthless internet points?
Hotpockets.

It's not some mythological right that we could only gleam from across the Atlantic in envy, it was taken by a government that didn't want to lift a finger in response to things getting shitter and to clamp down on organic organisation.
And a couple of generations later, the way things are is believed to be the way things always were. It's really quite depressing, how quickly a nation can forget itself and its history. At the same time, there's a growing sentiment amongst the kids that the past was actually a better place. They're pining for the world they see in old cinereels and TV shows. They know they've lost something from back then, even though they maybe can't quite name what it is.
 
Yeah. This works all the time. Twitter complies with monetary and censorship demands, Google complies with both, Facebook, etc. You ever wonder why you're getting cookie notices? That's because EU will threaten any website that doesn't have them as in violation of EU law, and almost all of them will comply. This applies to other industries as well.
You know what all those companies have in common? They foolishly set up European offices and datacenters.
 
Finally, in 2010, Obama passed the SPEECH Act, which functionally federalizes the Libel Tourism Protection Act and makes it stronger still, automatically making any Libel judgments against American citizens brought by foreign courts utterly unenforceable unless they meet the benchmarks for the American standard on Libel (which the overpowering majority of them do not).
The functional upshot of this is since testing whether they meet American standards more or less requires another trial, they're wasting their time getting a UK judgment and trying to enforce it against Americans, so if they want to sue an American for libel, they'd best get their ass over here and do it here or fuck off.
 
To OFCOM, to the king, to the queen, to all the dukes, barons, earls, etc...
To the prime minister, to every minister, to every member of parliament or whatever you have there, to every government employee, to every soldier, to every police officer.
To the Welsh, to the Scottish, to the Irish, to the English, to the Pakistanis.
Kill yourselves, kill yourself, kill yourself, kill yourselves.
Kill yourself, kill yourselves, kill yourselves, kill yourselves, kill yourself, kill yourself (especially you).
Kill yourselves, kill yourselves, kill yourselves, kill yourselves, kill yourselves.
If I were president of the United States for just one day I would give every nation in the world whatever they wish for regardless of what it takes or how much it costs so that we can all reach an agreement on the single decision that the entire nuclear arsenal of the planet should be used to wipe the United Kingdom and all its denizens off the map.
 
This is part of all the fomenting bad relations between Europe and the US. Like the air conditioning thing. Like Greenland.

The idea is to create a pretext for leaving NATO for the US, so the part of Turkey that is part of the greater Israel plan can be taken without putting the US automatically on Turkey's side.
 
The functional upshot of this is since testing whether they meet American standards more or less requires another trial, they're wasting their time getting a UK judgment and trying to enforce it against Americans, so if they want to sue an American for libel, they'd best get their ass over here and do it here or fuck off.
Worth noting that the uk severely restricted the scope of English libel law in the aftermath as well, with the Defamation Act 2013, which essentially ended libel tourism in UK courts and shifted much of the burden of proof back onto the plaintiff. Imperfect, but long overdue, and one of the few good things the Cameron government managed to do during its tenure.
 
Why the fuck is OFCOM even going after 4chan, you can find infinitely worse and more dangerous mis-information on Facebook.
 
No, Meta just complies to whatever.
Right, this is just stupid in every way. They picked a target that not only is completely out of their jurisdiction, but will just relentlessly mock them and tell them to go fuck themselves, making them look like fools. They should have picked someone who would actually pay and then they would look like they have teeth.

As it is, they look like a bunch of pantywaist nerds.
 
No, Meta just complies to whatever.
The billable hours usually end up being more than the fines and they just pay when its below a million. Cost of doing business in the UK.

They would 100 percent put up a fight if an actual threat to their business model happened. Legal and extralegal means.

If you think Meta isnt encouraging Trumps stance on the EU alongside Elon you arent paying attention.
 
No. Cause Congress in 1976 gave UK broad immunity from all civil suits. The two ways you can sue it is:
  1. If UK waives it's immunity for the purpose of the lawsuit
  2. It relates to some sort of "a commercial activity carried on in the United States by the foreign state; or upon an act performed in the United States in connection with a commercial activity of the foreign state elsewhere"
We are currently arguing in court that point two is satisfied by them throwing around these demands. If true, we can sue. OFCOM disagrees. Them going to 4chan's hosts trying to get 4chan deplatformed for violations of UK law, probably, would not meet point 2.
Doesn’t that hinge on Ofcom being covered by sovereign immunity? If a court rules they are not, they are open to suit, right?
 
First they outlaw hate speech, then redefine hate speech to cover a wider and wider class of people, until "hate speech" covers "criticism of anybody on our side".
In the US, there are no laws regarding hate speech. It has already been ruled unconstitutional. What we do have, and what some people misunderstand, is a “hate crime” sentence enhancement. I still think it’s bullshit, but what it effectively does is throw in an additional factor on top of an existing crime to make sentence more severe. But as of now, they can’t make laws against speech, they tried and it didn’t work.
Ex: punching a fag in the face while yelling “I hate faggots” could be used by a judge or jury to give the most severe sentence for an assault instead of just probation or something
federalizes the Libel Tourism Protection Act and makes it stronger still, automatically making any Libel judgments against American citizens brought by foreign courts utterly unenforceable unless they meet the benchmarks for the American standard on Libel (which the overpowering majority of them do not).
And in the US, the bar for a libel suit brought by a politician is incredibly high to the point it’s nearly impossible to prove. I wonder if this standard would apply to foreign government agencies if they would try to bring a suit against an American.
Why the fuck is OFCOM even going after 4chan, you can find infinitely worse and more dangerous mis-information on Facebook.
There is no downside for them. Worst that happens is they have to send another letter. Or they get to make money if someone is dumb enough to pay.

I also think this is just another way to justify the inevitable requirement for digital ID that’s coming. Once they have that in place they’ll be able to claim these evil nazis just aren’t obeying the letters. It’ll justify tracking internet usage in the UK. It’s why they don’t care about UK users getting blocked or not even though that should be enough for a site to “comply”. That’s not the purpose. They want to know every subversive that’s accessing “banned” or “hate” sites. Now that they’ve implemented a ban on under 16’s using social media (except the tranny grooming site BlueSky) they’ll need digital ID for “age verification” on everyone. Once that’s in place they’ll have a paper trail for going after the dangerous “far right” middle age moms in the UK complaining publicly about their kids getting raped by Abdul Mohammed for the thirtieth time.

Canada is trying to do the same thing with the Digital Safety Act.
The Digital Safety Act applies to “regulated services,” including social media services, chatbot services, and other online services that may be made subject to certain duties by regulation. The Digital Safety Act is broadly intended to establish new requirements to promote online safety in Canada and impose duties and responsibilities on the operators of these services.
Sooner or later the big companies just paying off Euros isn’t going to be enough for them. The ultimate goal is completely controlling what is allowed online and the only way to do that is force the US to limit speech on US citizens.
 
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