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Should be a wild four years.

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Trump was our last chance to fix America.

Now we have never been in a worse position.

At this point ICE serves no purpose. They can deport all they want but we're still getting infinity anchor babies rendering it all meaningless.
 
after the Belfast riots and now this, I don't want to hear "deus vult" ever again on here. christcucks and especially catholics have done everything in their power to destroy the white race while you retards posted your edits about how based they were for it.

utterly disgusting
That's cool, that's cool. Have you brought this energy to the Catholic thread? They could use it, I'm told.
 
A cult stealing a spergs legos and looking out for each other and harassing citizens as pigs for asking about it doesn't seem good for America. I vote neuro gas Utah and have a hard reset.
The more i hear about Those Damn Mormons from outsiders, the more i realize basically nobody has sat in on a session. Lmao buddy
Please don't accept it Trump. You have only a few good years left to live, you have good ties with Israel and Japan that your family can move to for protection, these people want you dead and you have been dodging bullets every few months while they wait with baited breath for one to hit. You know they will cheat and cheat some more to secure total dominance. You know Rubio and Vance can't overcome the odds like you can. This is your one shot, your successors won't have the balls to do what needs done if they even get elected. For the good of America, please follow the examples of Lincoln and FDR and just go apeshit on the courts, congress, and the press. We are in a state of emergency and showing them mercy is pointless when it is clear it will not be returned and they intend on breaking all the rules anyway. Do it Trump, be the tyrant they want you to be and the Cincinnatus we need you to be!
Holy shit Kay is back.
We got them scared and that's just as important
The fact is we shook them up. Even though our shot missed, we managed to graze them and make them feel fear.
 
Final opinion is here, it is for the birthright citizenship case known as Trump v. Barbara.

from my extremely cursory legal research, it seems to me that the Trump admin approached this from entirely the wrong angle. I'm sure this whole thing has already been stated in this exact thread, but United States v. Wong Kim Ark litigated essentially this exact issue. although the dissent is, of course, touching on the core of the issue we're facing today:

Considering the circumstances surrounding the framing of the constitution, I submit that it is unreasonable to conclude that 'naturalborn citizen' applied to everybody born within the geographical tract known as the United States, irrespective of circumstances; and that the children of foreigners, happening to be born to them while passing through the country, whether of royal parentage or not, or whether of the Mongolian, Malay, or other race, were eligible to the presidency, while children of our citizens, born abroad, were not.

and from a subsequent lecture from one of the dissenting justices:

We have for many years had the policy—I am now giving you the argument on one side—we have had the policy of excluding the Chinese from this country absolutely, except certain classes, and the power of the government to do that no one disputes now or can dispute.

It has been asserted time and time again, and we have done that upon the idea that this is a race utterly foreign to us, and never will assimilate with us. They are pagans in religion, so different from us that they do not intermarry with us, and we don't want to intermarry with them. And when they die, no matter how long they have been here, they make arrangements to be sent back to their fatherland. That there is a wide gulf between our civilization and their civilization, and we don't want to mix.

The consequences of a different policy perhaps may be apprehended in my asking you one question, which I don't expect you to answer: What would have been the condition today of the states of California, Oregon, Washington, Nevada, and Utah, and that western Pacific slope, if we had no restriction whatever against the admission of Chinese in this country?

If out of two or three hundred million that are in China, if out of that number fifty million had been here by this time, as there would have been if there had been no restrictions, that whole Pacific slope today would have been dominated by that race. They would have rooted out the American population that is there, would have compelled all the laboring part of that country to have left and come to other parts of the country to seek subsistence.

and another one that's a bit more on the nose:

Go to the great city of New York. Why, some men have said that it is more European than American. [There is] a good deal of truth in it. The contests in [the] great states of this country have turned upon the votes of great cities. And those great cities have a majority of men—or [an] enormous percentage of men—not born and reared under our institutions, not born and reared under the institutions of other countries like England . . . understand[ing] what life, liberty, and property mean, but born under despotisms, who have been in the habit all their lives of bowing to titles and powers that did not know what liberty was, and who come to this country mistaking liberty for license and license for liberty.

although the dissent's argument was largely based on the fact that the Chinese of the time were not allowed under Chinese law to disavow the Emperor under penalty of death - meaning they could never become naturalized citizens, as they will always remain subject to Chinese law no matter how long they live here - instead of any particular argument about the ability of the Chinese to assimilate into American society. either way, that case essentially decided the birthright citizenship issue over 100 years ago. so the idea of assailing this issue with a legal argument is totally bankrupt; it has already been decided by the powers of this land, before our birth, that America may be used as a refuge by foreigners for any reason. what is needed - which, I believe, does have a nontrivial amount of ground floor support - is an actual redefinition of America's identity as a nation. it is obvious that the founders did not intend this country to become a safe house for every brownoid who can make it past the border. the founders were English and valued English institutions, a fact that the legal scholars of old were well aware of. therefore the country's very foundation is built on what were then English values, and immigrants to this country cannot reasonably be expected to naturalize if their worldview is not compatible with those values. this is the argument we're trying to make, but when the opposing side says it conflicts with what were up to this point considered American values, they're not wrong. however, that doesn't mean the argument is invalid; it simply means that the definition of "American values" needs to be changed. the Fourteenth Amendment should not serve as a universal circumvention to all existing immigration law. this is plainly obvious.
 
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right, because housecleaners and construction workers can definitely afford all that disruption, and it's not going to significantly reduce the presence of illegals.

Nobody's writing articles about the people who stay their ass back in Guatemala, which is a much much larger number than people going through all that rigmarole.
You see these people as house-cleaners and construction workers rather than the participants in organized crime they actually are. None of this happens without a large network getting rich off it. By not realizing that and dismissing them as blue collar nobodies you have fallen for the trap. You don't even have to take some random guy on Kiwi Farms as proof just try to become """friends""" with any of them and see how many are dealing drugs or boosting things or directly connected to a bunch of murderers who also steal or deal. It's all of them. This is their culture and it dominates where they come from and they do it when they sneak over. If this country actually worked there would be racial policy to deport every South American or just execute them.
 
Please don't accept it Trump. You have only a few good years left to live, you have good ties with Israel and Japan that your family can move to for protection, these people want you dead and you have been dodging bullets every few months while they wait with baited breath for one to hit. You know they will cheat and cheat some more to secure total dominance. You know Rubio and Vance can't overcome the odds like you can. This is your one shot, your successors won't have the balls to do what needs done if they even get elected. For the good of America, please follow the examples of Lincoln and FDR and just go apeshit on the courts, congress, and the press. We are in a state of emergency and showing them mercy is pointless when it is clear it will not be returned and they intend on breaking all the rules anyway. Do it Trump, be the tyrant they want you to be and the Cincinnatus we need you to be!
This entire term has been his entire base begging and pleading this for years just for him to be a "principled" cuck faggot and do nothing. He had his moment to cross the rubicon dozens of times now and he's pussied out every time. He is the biggest letdown in our country's history and he doomed us all.
We got them scared and that's just as important
"At least we tried" 🥀
 
"We hate billionaires! DOWN WITH CAPITALISM!"
"Down with ICE! WE need more slave labor for corporates!"

Uhhhhh.....~ Dude, leftist niggers are retarded.
 
The more i hear about Those Damn Mormons from outsiders, the more i realize basically nobody has sat in on a session. Lmao buddy
Idk why people sperg out about mormons. Utah is the one desert state that actually got turned into something good/wealthy, Arizona/NM/Nevada are fuckin shitholes with indians drinking themselves to death on reservations. Obviously theres the salt lake which helps alot but still - they're a net positive for the US, and not by a minor amount.
 
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