Serious LGBT Discussion

[Token Faggot]

Update on the ace friend, I asked her about her thoughts on ace pride and she gave me an interesting perspective. She said to her, ace pride isn’t about complaining about being oppressed, but celebrating that you’re not oppressed. To quote her “Asexuals aren’t really oppressed in America, and that’s a good thing. Asexual pride for me is celebrating that fact and the fact that I have a good life with people who love me with my sexuality. I see it as like celebrating how far we’ve come as a society”.

This is the most hopepilled queer I’ve ever seen?

Well at least they arent moaning about being oppressed for a change. Thats nice I guess

 

[*Moonbaer*]

What's the Deal with Intersex's? They are the most hidden of this Community. And what even are they? Aren't they Hermaphrodites with many stages? That's the only Topic i am interested in this Space

 

[*Moonbaer*]

Some of you need to stop and really think about how retarded you sound. A Youtuber's reading of a shitty Hollywood movie being palatable to your preconceived notions of faggots is not the same thing as evidence that gay people are categorically liars trying to trick to straight man. Are you stupid?

OH you are here? Ofcourse. Faggots are known for being Assholes themselfs

 

[Edgelord Vampire]

What's the Deal with Intersex's? They are the most hidden of this Community. And what even are they? Aren't they Hermaphrodites with many stages? That's the only Topic i am interested in this Space

"Intersex" is the term they use for Hermaphroditic Humans, yes.

Most of the people that claim to be Intersex aren't actually so either, since it's an extremely rare chromosomal disorder.
A lot regard it as a "third gender" to try and disprove the only two sexes argument but it falls flat because Herms are still either one or the other; their genitalia are just ambiguous among a few other anomalies.

 

[Chromeo]

In my opinion I think it’s not as rare as people think it is, and TRUE asexuality often comes from autism. If you think about it, it makes sense. Sex is a very physically demanding and intimate activity that your average sperg would have trouble understanding. It makes sense that some spergs will have such trouble understanding to the point where they want nothing to do with it.

I have a friend who identifies as asexual, I used to think it was fake until I met her. She doesn’t like porn, masturbating, or sex. She’s not even disgusted by any of it morally, she just genuinely doesn’t enjoy any of it. And the more I observed her the more it seemed sorta similar to an autistic disliking a texture or a sound sensation.

There’s also the fake asexuals who just prefer porn to real sex.

I've often thought there are 6 explanations for asexuals: Trauma, addiction, medication, adolescence, shame, and I guess now "autism."

Trauma - People who are traumatized at a young age that, instead of becoming hypersexual like some victims do, they go the other way and become asexual, rejecting all the sex/sexuality related stuff.
Addiction - The porn addicts who are so far gone that nothing does it for them anymore except the most bizarre removed-from-reality fetishes you could possibly think of. They ID as asexual because their bodies are broken, but then they go into the "shame" one I want to mention in a moment.
Medication - People who are on medication that has a side effect that lowers their sex drive. When you're depressed or anxious and medication helps, usually it's a worthwhile tradeoff, but there's something to be said about "shit life syndrome" where you're only neurotic and miserable because the world you live in sucks, and medication isn't the actual answer. Especially when teenagers are medicated, that shit was NOT normal even a decade ago, and I think this leads a lot of them to identify with their medical side effects as part of their innate sense of self, either unconsciously because they just don't know it's a side effect, or consciously choosing to identify with it like a disability advocate.
Adolescence - Speaking of teenagers, I think a lot of younger people as they develop their sexuality (even before Current Era) have a lot of social pressure to know their sexuality and what they are and to "prove" it to their peers. Makes sense a lot of teenagers would go for being asexual, since it's the easiest to prove and is basically the equivalent of saying "idk leave me alone," except people would take it seriously and stop prying. There are adults like this too, who don't have a full understanding of their sexuality so they just call themselves asexual to buy time, but it's mostly teenagers.
Shame - Like I mentioned before in the porn addicts, some of them will ID as asexual because they're lying or ashamed of their addiction. Shame can kind of reach into all these other types too; shame over being assaulted and not wanting to confront it so you ID as asexual, shame over being heavily medicated, shame over being inexperienced, and especially as an "adolescent" asexual grows up and has no sexual experiences because they're ugly or rude or whatever, there's a shame to that where they just go "well I'm asexual, I didn't want to have a gf anyway," but you know that's not true. I think the lying aspect of a good chunk of asexuals could be attributed to shame.
Autism - I just figured that some people are genuinely uninterested in sex, like Nikola Tesla. Their bodies work fine, nobody's pressuring them to pick a side, there's no porn issue or drugs, but they just don't care about sex. I can absolutely see this being a symptom of autism for the reasons you described, but sometimes I think maybe it's just someone's personality. They could be "10% autistic" or they could just be a guy who doesn't want to have sex, and if it isn't hurting anyone I don't think the distinction needs to be drawn. Like the overlabeling problem with sexuality causes all those bullshit MOGAI things, overlabeling every unusual person as being autistic kind of misses the mark. You don't need a label unless it literally disables or disorders your life, and being asexual is probably the least offensive thing that you could have as far as a mental disorder goes. If I had to pick between hallucinations, fits of rage, seizures, or not having sex, I'm picking "not having sex" every time.

 

[Paper Machete]

I think while there are legit people who have so low libido they just aren't interested I think the explanation is really simple: there are a lot of spergy types who really don't have good reads on their own emotions and motivations for things and are easily confused about them, they probably have a difficult time connected with what most people consider typical romantic situations, and read this as them having something different about them.

 

[Aero the Alcoholic Bat]

"Intersex" is the term they use for Hermaphroditic Humans, yes.

Most of the people that claim to be Intersex aren't actually so either, since it's an extremely rare chromosomal disorder.
A lot regard it as a "third gender" to try and disprove the only two sexes argument but it falls flat because Herms are still either one or the other; their genitalia are just ambiguous among a few other anomalies.

There are a few articles about intersex on the paradox institute:

https://theparadoxinstitute.org/videos/is-intersex-a-third-sex

https://theparadoxinstitute.org/videos/the-intersex-gambit

https://theparadoxinstitute.org/videos/the-denial-of-biological-sex

There are also articles written by intersex people where they (rightly) complain that troons are hijacking the issues they face due to their health conditions.

There's also a few Kiwis right here who claim to be intersex, who often post in the stinkditch subforum. I'm tempted to start up a thread about Intersex and DSDs in the Stinkditch forum, but I don't know if I'm the right person to do that.

 

[*Moonbaer*]

There are a few articles about intersex on the paradox institute:

https://theparadoxinstitute.org/videos/is-intersex-a-third-sex

https://theparadoxinstitute.org/videos/the-intersex-gambit

https://theparadoxinstitute.org/videos/the-denial-of-biological-sex

There are also articles written by intersex people where they (rightly) complain that troons are hijacking the issues they face due to their health conditions.

There's also a few Kiwis right here who claim to be intersex, who often post in the stinkditch subforum. I'm tempted to start up a thread about Intersex and DSDs in the Stinkditch forum, but I don't know if I'm the right person to do that.

I wish i could meet some of them or talk to them

 

[Hooked on phobics]

A problem with intersex is the thing is EXTREMELY inflated, like people will include women with very slight hormonal issues, or a man with 90% absorbed vaginal tissue somewhere you can't even detect. Actual hermaphrodites I feel bad for as they absolutely didn't choose it, but it feels like there's more people who will have the slightest abnormality and call themselves intersex.

 

[ZsaZsaBinks]

When gays and lesbians who are gender-nonconforming talk with gay and lesbian voices, it always sounds unnatural. When GNC gays and lesbians act like the opposite sex, they act like an extreme stereotype of the opposite gender. It’s like they are living vicariously through these stereotypes. GNC gays say that they were GNC since childhood, but when they act like these stereotypes, it makes you wonder if this is natural.

 

[*Moonbaer*]

A problem with intersex is the thing is EXTREMELY inflated, like people will include women with very slight hormonal issues, or a man with 90% absorbed vaginal tissue somewhere you can't even detect. Actual hermaphrodites I feel bad for as they absolutely didn't choose it, but it feels like there's more people who will have the slightest abnormality and call themselves intersex.

I want to chating with a Hermaphrodite. Knowing someone with an Onix & a Cloyster sounds Awsome.

 

[Twix Eatr]

Intersex was appropriated by the gender weirdos to legitimize their nonsense. Usually it gets referenced with the nonsensical 1.7% prevalence rate invented by the feminist psycho Fausto-Sterling. That and the "trannies have brains closer to their desired gender" garbage are the two most common biological seeds to promote this in normies.

Asexual was probably invented along with non-binary to give the children these doctors mutilated a "sexuality" so they don't realize what happened to them.

hen briefly, for a few decades, in a handful of countries, they managed to fool enough people into getting tolerated, then accepted, and then celebrated, for basically the first time in human history

After The Ball.

It's more likely that it's a biological consequence of some boring component of pre-natal development which doesn't lend itself to sensationalist rhetoric meant to prop up prejudices

I actually think what you're saying is making the case for how malleable our sexuality might be. We already know that early exposure to sexual activity or pornographic material has some effect on you when young, so why wouldn't it be able to do something as an adult? I definitely think exposure to certain things can open you up to them when you'd have never otherwise. Giving a man estrogen does something to how he behaves/feels, obviously.

Lately I've randomly been thinking about the common responses to people who either criticize homosexuality or say something about gays. Like if you said you don't want your son around gay men or object to some Disney movie with a gay character. "Why, you afraid you might like it?" "Why, do you think your son can just turn gay?" or some variant. "How did you become straight? Do you have to think about it all the time not to be gay?"

It's often something along those lines, seemingly to drive home the idea that you can't just turn gay, or become gay. I'm sure it's part of their demand to be seen as "born this way", but that's a symptom of the same issue. Why wouldn't the youth be more susceptible to trying to be gay or entertaining it with so much signaling?

There is no gay gene, there is probably no "born this way", etc. But there's almost certainly some adults taking advantage of the cover we give them by pretending gays don't propagate their lifestyle through molesting kids.

 

[⋖ cørdion ⋗]

I think while there are legit people who have so low libido they just aren't interested I think the explanation is really simple: there are a lot of spergy types who really don't have good reads on their own emotions and motivations for things and are easily confused about them, they probably have a difficult time connected with what most people consider typical romantic situations, and read this as them having something different about them.

On some level I respect old ugly troons who are so hooked on euphoria and feel-good that they're bordering on asexual. Simply do not engage sexually with anything or anyone and you'll never have dysphoria if you otherwise go around in dresses, fully convinced you're passing.

Compare that to the zoomer troon who pumps they dick raw, constantly having to internally deal with being male, acting female, hoping to fuck a female, who is also a male, all the while using the right derogatory tags on your onlyfans content, because "TRANNY GLUPS SHEMALE COCKSNOT" gets more views than "two passionate transfem they/thems kiss in an exclusive relationship for you to enjoy #transrights".

 

[CEO of Gay]

I want to chating with a Hermaphrodite. Knowing someone with an Onix & a Cloyster sounds Awsome.

You're not likely to meet an hermaphroditic human, as they don't exist in the classic sense of having both sets of sex organs. This happens in some less complex organisms, like earthworms or snails, but not in the more complex ones like birds or mammals. In humans, the sex organs of both sexes are homologous, deriving from the same base tissue in the pre-sex embryo. The closest humans come to hermaphroditicism is ovotesticular syndrome wherein one or both of the gonads contain both testicular and ovarian tissue. The same events that keep the gonads from fully differentiating into either ovaries or testicles, also cause the phallus to tend to get stuck halfway in size between a penis and a clitoris, thus useless for sexual intercourse, and the urogenital opening is often incompletely closed, leading to an incomplete, and shallow vagina (again, useless for intercourse. In other words, the person doesn't have functional sex organs, male or female.

There have been 500 recorded cases of ovotesticular syndrome. With now 8 billion people on the planet, you have better odds of winning the lottery.