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Being a person who was born in California, and lived through Newsom’s rise to governor, if anyone thinks he attracts moderates compared to JD Vance I just do not see it. The slicked back hair, the posture of a shark looking for a kill, the smile that makes sure you know he doesn’t see you as an equal, that notorious quote from the Prop 8 No Gay Marriage fight where he said ‘we are going to win whether you like it or not!’ Which helped Prop 8 pass (only to be defeated thanks to courts).

He is the most stereotypical politician ass person in all the wrong ways that if you made a movie of him the reviews would call it a caricature.
 
Being a person who was born in California, and lived through Newsom’s rise to governor, if anyone thinks he attracts moderates compared to JD Vance I just do not see it. The slicked back hair, the posture of a shark looking for a kill, the smile that makes sure you know he doesn’t see you as an equal, that notorious quote from the Prop 8 No Gay Marriage fight where he said ‘we are going to win whether you like it or not!’ Which helped Prop 8 pass (only to be defeated thanks to courts).

He is the most stereotypical politician ass person in all the wrong ways that if you made a movie of him the reviews would call it a caricature.
I think you're overestimating the politics knowledge of average person.
 
I just wish that the liberal LGBT+ crowd that likes to show up to protest ICE deporting muslims would realize what muslims think of the gays.
That would make a great compilation video, liberal faces when the penny drops on that one.
 
I just wish that the liberal LGBT+ crowd that likes to show up to protest ICE deporting muslims would realize what muslims think of the gays.
That would make a great compilation video, liberal faces when the penny drops on that one.
Iirc one of the reasons why European right wingers are so gay is they hate Muslims the most.
 
I just wish that the liberal LGBT+ crowd that likes to show up to protest ICE deporting muslims would realize what muslims think of the gays.
That would make a great compilation video, liberal faces when the penny drops on that one.
Buddy they've been sucking exhaust fumes about the gays off rooftops shit since the mid-2010s. They do not care. Brown is brown is brown. All the white virtue signallers who do this shit care about is that other white people see them being virtuous brown-lovers.
 
People keep parroting this for no reason. Why would they not want it?
Why would Rubio not want to be President or VP
It's quite literally what he's been working towards his whole life
The dude is doing 10 jobs right now, you think he's scared to be president?

Also the reports have always been that Rubio and Vance work closely together and are friends
Then people like you come on the internet and say they dont like each other like source: i made it the fuck up
I think it’s more so than neither would want to be vice president to the other, both would want the main job
 
People keep parroting this for no reason. Why would they not want it?
Why would Rubio not want to be President or VP
It's quite literally what he's been working towards his whole life
The dude is doing 10 jobs right now, you think he's scared to be president?

Also the reports have always been that Rubio and Vance work closely together and are friends
Then people like you come on the internet and say they dont like each other like source: i made it the fuck up
It's kinda unprecedented, outside of incumbents, I can't really think of a major candidate having a VP until well into the primaries. The campaign trail can be brutal and you never know who's going to wash out on the national scale. DeSantis seemed to have a lot of momentum and we came in third to a pajeeta neocon.

You're either hitching you're aspirations too early, or you as the Presidental candidate are throwing away a compromise to your weakness on the campaign.

However, Trump has a lot of political mold breaking, so I wouldn't rule it out.
Didn't Rubio also say he would not run against Vance if Vance chose to go for it? Sounds like a possible VP grab to me, something Trump has spoken positively of, saying they'd be unbeatable together.

They've both just said it's not something they're focusing on right now because they have work to do which is smart - if it's a shit set up it's probably wise not to commit until the landscape is clearer. And to emphasize your priorities are on your job not ladder climbing, even if you are considering it.
That's legal speak, once they announced they are running, they are under a lot more scrutiny in terms of campaign finance laws. Candidates typically wait until they really need to start officially spending on a campaign to officially announce.
Ted cruz, nikki haley, perhaps desantis again, at some point I think tom cotton had aspirations but not sure anymore.

That's the names i've heard.
Whenever a side doesn't have an Incumbent candidate, you always get a clown car primary. Everyone with a little heat, and a few random Literally Who's throw in their hat. You can never tell how the trail will go. Frontrunners can burn out, scandals can take people out, and having your hat already in the ring can give you a chance.

We are going to have a double clown car year in 2028, which will be fun. 2020 Democrat primary was a shit show, same for 16 Republican (Hillary greatly suppressed a full clown car show after getting wrecked by Biden in 2008)

We are going to get a lot. Haley would be retarded, so would DeSantis, Cruz absolutely is, possibly to try and negotiate a VP alot, and he's almost as retarded. There will be a lot more.
 
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Fear of a dummymander?
Buddy they've been sucking exhaust fumes about the gays off rooftops shit since the mid-2010s. They do not care. Brown is brown is brown. All the white virtue signallers who do this shit care about is that other white people see them being virtuous brown-lovers.
One of the first politicians who talked about remigration (back in the 90s) was a gay guy who got killed by a violent antifa leftist.

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Mail in ballot case? Please?
 
I think Vance vs. Newsom in particular would end up being a massacre in the former's favor. If you think about it Vance pretty much is the perfect anti-Newsom: (snip)
To people who think like you, (& imo, it’s a fairly understandable take,) yes. Thing is, you’re not looking at this from any other perspectives. That will be dangerous for the GOP come 2028. Newsom is one of the worst politicians around today, he would spell absolute disaster for the US. None of what you eloquently described above will even factor to many of the Left, unfortunately. People who are fans of Trump often come across like they forget how important the moderates are. Newsom’s sickness & the current liberal party lines, spewed by total sickos, about “trans children” & white hate, need to be repeatedly exposed, because people have short memories. Starving veterans on our streets, while illegal aliens are given $10k debit cards, monthly, needs to be used in “the discourse.” Thinking the next election will be a shoe-in will absolutely doom real progress, & allow foreign interests to prevail. I don’t think the US can survive that.
 
To people who think like you, (& imo, it’s a fairly understandable take,) yes. Thing is, you’re not looking at this from any other perspectives. That will be dangerous for the GOP come 2028. Newsom is one of the worst politicians around today, he would spell absolute disaster for the US. None of what you eloquently described above will even factor to many of the Left, unfortunately. People who are fans of Trump often come across like they forget how important the moderates are. Newsom’s sickness & the current liberal party lines, spewed by total sickos, about “trans children” & white hate, need to be repeatedly exposed, because people have short memories. Starving veterans on our streets, while illegal aliens are given $10k debit cards, monthly, needs to be used in “the discourse.” Thinking the next election will be a shoe-in will absolutely doom real progress, & allow foreign interests to prevail. I don’t think the US can survive that.
Oh, at no point would I suggest this or that's a good reason to take it easy, especially when the stakes are as high as they are now & have been these last couple years/decades. Anything worth doing is worth doing well, most certainly including presidential campaigns. The left sure as shit don't just 'take it easy' even in states where they're assured of a W like California, and neither should the right.
 
It's clearly obvious now that Rubio is the heir apparent, and rightly so. I do not dislike Vance, but he has a fuck ton of baggage. He has also not really done anything, more active than the cackling Queen yes, but Rubio and Tulsi went above and beyond.

I have said before that my prediction is Rubio/Miller, but I think it is going to be Rubio/Gabbard, pending her husband's recovery. The RINO base would be pretty much gone by that point, too.
 
think Vance vs. Newsom in particular would end up being a massacre in the former's favor. If you think about it Vance pretty much is the perfect anti-Newsom: born into a broken home of 'white trash', climbed out of poverty & the shadow of his then-drug-addicted mother, joined the military and eventually ended up becoming a Senator & VP. Newsom meanwhile is the scion of a political dynasty, nephew to Nancy Pelosi, never knew serious difficulty or really anything resembling real discomfort & poverty for as long as he's been alive and for all that he's still managed to run Cali into the ground over the course of his political career.

Even if you take the uncharitable view that Vance must've been given everything he's ended up with by Thiel or whatever, he's got a basic narrative that works against Newsom & all the baggage the latter has managed to acquire. Then factor in how Vance is actually funny, likable & able to appear basically human, even leaning into memes in an effective way (ie. the face edits & his Halloween costume), while Newsom just plain...isn't and can't do any of that. (Newsom's social media and his, or more likely his intern's, attempts to imitate Trump make for a hell of a contrast to Vance owning the face memes.) Rubio also has a bit of an underdog narrative (parents were exiles from Communist Cuba) but IMO it's not as compelling a contrast to Newsom's insanely privileged background as Vance's since IIRC Rubio's folks stayed together, never ran out on him and ended up at least lower-middle-class.
Vance is an actual person. Newsom looks like Patrick Bateman, a literal psychopath. The problem with the Dems is they have nobody. Even Biden had something going for him, and that was being Obunga's VP. Newsom ran California into the ground. I really haven't met anyone not from California that likes the state. I don't think it'll work. Newsom is literally every Democrat stereotype in one person. I'd I was the campaign manager for Vance, it wouldn't be hard putting together attack ads. First one would be the the high speed rail. Then the looting under 900 bucks. Nigga that shit is dire. Vance's dirt is he might have fucked a couch once and his wife is brown. There is zero comparison
 
I just wish that the liberal LGBT+ crowd that likes to show up to protest ICE deporting muslims would realize what muslims think of the gays.
That would make a great compilation video, liberal faces when the penny drops on that one.
They know, and they dont care, they hate you more than they hate muslims killing them, some would even tell you that muslims would be easier to teach than the vile christians persecuting them even though both catholics and christians have been bending over to faggotry for more than 50 years. These people KNOW what they are doing, they are fueled by their psychotic hatred towards the west and everything it represents
 
You have to remember everyone that the 'democrat' party doesn't have primaries in any meaningful way. Or at all last time. They have super delegates that are the 'vanguard of the party' that can and do override the results all the time. If they want Newsom it'll be him. If they want a dark horse it'll be that. Both biden and kamala started at the bottom in caucus runs in 2020. It just doesn't matter what their voting base wants.

The these are the types that'll call Republicans 'fascists'.
 
DWS still not Black, caucus alleges

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Wasserman Schultz Targeted by Black Democrats During Urban League Forum​

Will Race define this Democratic primary election?​

Fort Lauderdale— It appears as if the already contentious Democratic Primary race in Florida's 20th District is going to get even uglier, as all the Black candidates in the race appear to be targeting Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D) for not living in the minority-majority congressional district.

During the recent Urban League of Broward County forum that took place this past Wednesday, all of the candidates not named Rep. Wasserman Schultz made the case for why this minority-driven congressional seat should be represented by someone who is Black.

Elijah Manley, who appears to be the most outspoken candidate in playing the race card against Wasserman Schultz, alleges that the veteran congresswoman has taken thousands of dollars from special interests, including $20,000 from the "Corrections Corporation of America," AKA CoreCivic.


During the forum, Manley, who said he would join the Progressive Caucus in the House of Representatives if elected, directly targeted Wasserman Schultz on several occasions.

Manley's assertion that she has taken money directly from CoreCivic appears to be false. However, Wasserman Schultz does appear to have received campaign donations from lobbyists and other stakeholders in the private prison space.

During that exchange, Manley asked Wasserman Schultz if she would apologize for allegedly taking campaign dollars from CoreCivic.

Staying true to form, Wasserman Schultz rattled off several proven instances where she advocated and supported the closing of private and government prisons and detention centers, including the ominous "Alligator Alcatraz," which has since been closed.

Manley pressed on with his persistence. And it paid off. Wasserman Schultz looked at Manley and directly addressed him, reiterating, "That's my record, and I stand by it."

Without saying it, the attack narrative against Wasserman Schultz could signal that the 20-year congresswoman from Weston, Florida, is hands down the frontrunner in the race, and is seen as the biggest threat to the field of candidates.

Shortly after the forum, The Floridian asked Wasserman Schultz if she felt that all the attacks against her were a sign that she was perceived as a clear threat to her opponents.

Wasserman Schultz or 'DWS' as she is known, reiterated that she was "proud of her record, adding that she was not focused on anyone or anything else but the voters she looks to represent.

As she did in the forum, Wasserman Schultz stayed on message.

"I'm honestly focused on the constituents that I'm seeking to represent, and not so focused on my opponents," she said.

When asked if he saw Rep. Cherfilus-McCormick, who is running for re-election, as a threat, Manley gave a mixed message, first saying that he was the former congresswoman as "not really that relevant in the race" before saying that he views all the of his opponents as a threat.

"She’s not really that relevant in the race. In my opinion," said Manley before the pivot.

"I view each and every candidate in the race, I take them all seriously. I am going to treat them all as if they are my top competitor," he added before stating,"Honestly I think this is a race between me and the congresswoman because there's a clearer contrast and a clearer story to be told..."

Recently, Rep. Cherfilus-McCormick said that Wasserman Schultz "part of the erasure" of the Black community.

"And what I'm hearing from the constituents is they feel like, for the first time, a Democrat is part of the erasure, not acknowledging the historical context, not acknowledging the years and the centuries of suppression, fighting people from actually voting.," Cherfilus-McCormick said. "How many people died in order to vote? And so we need people who actually understand the district, who have been in the district, and I'm that person."

"Well, I think we need to make sure that we have people who actually have a connection to the district, and that people are running for the district because they want to help the people, not because it's an opportunity for themselves. Really understanding the community, the nature of it is really what's important," said Cherfilus-McCormick.

The divided between Democrats in this particular congressional primary race is deep. The consensus among the Democrat political class in Florida is that Wasserman Schultz will win by default because the Black candidates in the race will split the minority vote.

The 2026 primary election will take place on August 28.
 
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