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So I'm seeing a lot of discussing about and not sharing of the actual MOU.
The full text of the “Islamabad Memorandum of Understanding between the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran” is as follows: dijo:
Paragraph 1

The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran and their allies in the current war, by signing this MOU, declare the immediate and permanent termination of military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon, and undertake from now on not to initiate any war or any military operations against each other, and to refrain from the threat or use of force against each other, and ensuring the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Lebanon. The final deal will confirm the permanent termination of the war on all fronts, including in Lebanon, and other provisions of this paragraph.
Everyone blames the Jews for fucking things up, but Lebanon pulls the shit just as much. We both have to tard wrangle.
The full text of the “Islamabad Memorandum of Understanding between the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran” is as follows: dijo:
Paragraph 2

The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran undertake to respect each other’s sovereignty and territorial integrity and to refrain from interfering in each other’s internal affairs.
Blah blah blah.
The full text of the “Islamabad Memorandum of Understanding between the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran” is as follows: dijo:
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The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran commit to negotiating and achieving the final deal in maximum 60 days, extendable with mutual consent.
As I have been saying this isn't the peace deal. This is the "Lets stop fucking with each other's oil" Deal.
The full text of the “Islamabad Memorandum of Understanding between the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran” is as follows: dijo:
Paragraph 4


Immediately upon the signing of this MOU, the United States of America will begin the removal of its naval blockade, and any disturbances or impediments against the Islamic Republic of Iran, and will fully end the naval blockade within 30 days. During this period, the traffic of vessels will be in proportion to the numbers of prewar traffic being restored by the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States of America further undertakes to remove its forces from the proximity of the Islamic Republic of Iran within 30 days after the final deal.
So the blockade will be lifted in proportion to the number of ships that are allowed to transit the Straight unmolested.
The full text of the “Islamabad Memorandum of Understanding between the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran” is as follows: dijo:
Paragraph 5

Upon the signing of this MOU, the Islamic Republic of Iran will make arrangements, using its best efforts, for the safe passage of commercial vessels, with no charge for 60 days only, from the Persian Gulf to the Sea of Oman and vice versa. The traffic of commercial vessels will immediately start, and considering the needs for removing the technical and military obstacles, and demining by the Islamic Republic of Iran, will be instated within 30 days. The Islamic Republic of Iran will conduct dialogue with the Sultanate of Oman to define the future administration and maritime services in the Strait of Hormuz in discussion with other Persian Gulf littoral states in line with the applicable international law and the sovereign rights of coastal states of the Strait of Hormuz.
Iran will not attempt to charge tolls on the Straight for 60 days, and has to negotiate with Oman and the other nations in the area future plans for passage. "in line with the applicable international law and the sovereign rights of coastal states" I believe will restrict Iran's ability to demand tolls through a body of water they only border one side of it, but I know fuck all about maritime law.
The full text of the “Islamabad Memorandum of Understanding between the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran” is as follows: dijo:
Paragraph 6


The United States of America undertakes with regional partners to develop a definitive, mutually agreed plan with at least USD 300 billion for the reconstruction and economic development of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The mechanism for the implementation of this plan will be finalized as part of a final deal within 60 days. All required licenses, waivers, and permissions needed for the relevant financial transactions will be granted by the United States of America.
So this is probably the worst part of the deal? I keep coming back to it and rereading trying to figure out what it even says. Initially I thought this was about the frozen assets, since it is the same figure, but that's handled in a future paragraph. So we and regional partners are developing a mutually agreed plan with at least 300 billion USD for rebuilding of Iran. If we were just giving them that money, it wouldn't require licenses, waivers, and permissions? The first half sounds like we are just giving them money, but the second half sounds more like we are letting that amount of money be spent through sanctions. However if it was allowing unsanctioned commerce I think they would of mentioned sanctions somewhere in it? It is definitely the worst written paragraph of the document and where I think most of the dooming/purposeful misrepresentation is coming from.

The full text of the “Islamabad Memorandum of Understanding between the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran” is as follows: dijo:
Paragraph 7

The United States of America undertakes to terminate all types of sanctions against the Islamic Republic of Iran, including the United Nations Security Council resolutions. IAEA Board of Governors resolutions, and all unilateral US sanctions, primary and secondary, in an agreed upon schedule as part of the final deal. The Islamic Republic of Iran and the United States of America acknowledge the critical importance of the sanctions termination issue above mentioned, and expressed their intentions to immediately address these issues in the negotiations in order to achieve mutual agreement on them.
So USA will eventually lift sanctions against Iran over a period of time determined by the final peace deal.
The full text of the “Islamabad Memorandum of Understanding between the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran” is as follows: dijo:
Paragraph 8

The Islamic Republic of Iran reaffirms that it shall not procure or develop nuclear weapons. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran have agreed to resolve the disposition of stockpile enriched material pursuant to a mechanism that will be mutually agreed upon in accordance with the schedule mentioned in paragraph seven with the minimum methodology to be down-blending on site under the supervision of the IAEA. The two parties also agreed to discuss the issue of enrichment and other mutually agreed matters related to the Islamic Republic of Iran’s nuclear needs, based on a satisfactory framework being agreed upon in the final deal. The final deal will confirm the provisions of this paragraph. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran acknowledge the critical importance of the nuclear issues above mentioned, and express their intention to immediately address these issues in the negotiations in order to achieve mutual agreement on them.
So they gotta give us the dust, and sanction lifting is tied to it. Further discussions on nuclear activities in Iran will again be part of the final deal.
The full text of the “Islamabad Memorandum of Understanding between the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran” is as follows: dijo:
Paragraph 9

Pending the final deal, the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran agree to maintain the status quo. The Islamic Republic of Iran will maintain the current status quo of its nuclear program, and the United States of America will not impose any new sanctions and will not deploy additional forces in the region.
Iran maintaining the agreed upon nuclear restrictions is a requirement to keeping the sanctions and military action at bay.
The full text of the “Islamabad Memorandum of Understanding between the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran” is as follows: dijo:
Paragraph 10

The United States of America undertakes that immediately upon the signing of this MOU and until the termination of sanctions, U.S. Department of Treasury will issue waivers for the export of Iranian crude oil, petroleum products, and derivatives, and all associated services, including banking transactions, insurances, transportation, etc.
So Iran has sanctions waived for business involving selling oil.
The full text of the “Islamabad Memorandum of Understanding between the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran” is as follows: dijo:
Paragraph 11

The United States of America undertakes to make fully available for use the frozen or restricted funds and assets of the Islamic Republic of Iran upon the implementation of this MOU. The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran will mutually agree on the procedures related to the release of these funds during negotiations. Such funds, whether obtaining the original account or transfer, shall be made fully usable for payment to any ultimate beneficiary designated by the Central Bank of the Islamic Republic of Iran. The United States of America undertakes to issue all necessary licenses and authorizations accordingly.
This is another one that reads weirdly. Like the blockade paragraph it says something starts with the signing of the MOU and then says it actually happening will come with negotiations. It sounds like we are just giving them the 300 billion back, but again how we go about releasing the funds is slated for further negotiation, so eventually somehow Iran will have it's money back and be free to do with it what it wants. It's really odd that it's the same figure as reconstruction fund.
The full text of the “Islamabad Memorandum of Understanding between the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran” is as follows: dijo:
Paragraph 12

The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran agree that an executive mechanism will be established to monitor the successful implementation of this MOU and the future compliance of the final deal.
I think this is saying a third party will follow the implementation of this and the final peace deal.
The full text of the “Islamabad Memorandum of Understanding between the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran” is as follows: dijo:
Paragraph 13

After signing this MOU, and subject to the beginning of the implementation of paragraphs 1, 4, 5, 10, and 11 of this MOU, and the continuing implementation of these measures, the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran will start negotiations regarding the final deal exclusively on the other paragraphs.
So if 1(Ending hostilities), 4(opening of the straight, ending the blockade), 5(no tolls on the straight), 10(sanction waivers on selling oil), and 11(immediately unfreezing assets except not) start rolling than they will start further peace negotiations.
The full text of the “Islamabad Memorandum of Understanding between the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran” is as follows: dijo:
Paragraph 14

The final deal will be endorsed by a binding UNSC resolution.
This Paragraph means literally nothing.

Overall it's pretty much setting the floor for what each party is willing to accept in the final peace deal, and agreeing to let the oil flow again. I really need more explicit explanation of Paragraph 6 before I can say how I feel about the deal as a whole. Absent of that it's fairly whelming. It ties Iran getting what it wants to opening of the Straight in the short term and maintaining denuclearization in the long term. I think as written it's fine as long as a strong President is in office holding them to it, but that can't always be counted on.
 
Trump v. Barbara: Birthright citizenship, likely not good, but there have been cases before that the majority opinion doesn't reflect the oral argument leanings.
If we get a bad ruling on this (we will), MAGA and all other opposition to globohomo are well and truly dead, and not even the most loyal of plan trusters will find it in themselves to deny it anymore.
 
Except they caught some faggot dumping toxic algae into the reflecting pool.
Can't believe antifa pulled a 3AM USN SEAL operation to drop algae into the reflecting pool in DC.

Do you fucking hear yourself bro LOL? I don't actually give a fuck about the pool but get a grip nigga
 
Nothing happened that anyone predicted would happen except for the people saying nothing would happen so either you're just going with the flow or you're desperate to construe the narrative.

I'm just going to continue to trust Dr. Trump.
 
The full text of the “Islamabad Memorandum of Understanding between the United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran” is as follows: dijo:
Paragraph 14

The final deal will be endorsed by a binding UNSC resolution.
This Paragraph means literally nothing.
Ah fuck, Lord Hood's gonna cuck our boy Donny. :stress:
 
Before Maduro was replaced, Chevron had been run out of the country and PVDSA had run the production facilities into the ground.
You can just google it you know. Chevron maintained a significant stake under Maduro and only added another 10-15% to that stake after he was handed over to us. Despite the rhetoric from the White House no other US oil company has engaged. No improvements, no upgrades, no nothing. The other difference is that now even less of Venezuela's oil money is making it to the people there than under Maduro.
 
"The Reflecting Pool water is crystal clear, and our National Park Service team is now vacuuming up the dead algae resting on the bottom of some parts of the Reflecting Pool—just like the destroyed Iranian Navy resting on the bottom of the Persian Gulf.":
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Real niggas worship Nixon, i've got his altar next to my Virgin Mary one and i pray to him every day to someday be as racist as him.
There has been somewhat of a rehabilitation of Nixon in recent years. It's rather ironic that in a country where people complain about Presidents not thinking about the long-term, the one in recent memory who was worried a great deal about how the future would see him was undone by his own efforts to create an accurate historical record and not be misquoted.
 
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The blacks vs cops crowd seemed to have figured that out after bodycams buckbroke their bullshit narrative.
kek no they haven't, they've shifted that effort over to the ACLU who have taken it upon themselves to give police departments "guidance" about how to ignore/deny FOIA requests for "uncomfortable" bodycam footage under the guise of privacy protections (which already exist and have existing mitigations, like pixelation of residential interiors in some states prior to footage release, etc.).

Thankfully nobody has accepted the ACLU's "guidance" on the matter and it's not working, but they're absolutely still trying to put the bodycam genie back in the lamp.
 
kek no they haven't, they've shifted that effort over to the ACLU who have taken it upon themselves to give police departments "guidance" about how to ignore/deny FOIA requests for "uncomfortable" bodycam footage under the guise of privacy protections (which already exist and have existing mitigations, like pixelation of residential interiors in some states prior to footage release, etc.).

Thankfully nobody has accepted the ACLU's "guidance" on the matter and it's not working, but they're absolutely still trying to put the bodycam genie back in the lamp.
Well damn. For a moment there I was thinking about being slightly less racist.
 
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