This is very gay but it is at least internally consistent with the lore since america is already corporatist and segregation is still widespread at game start. Honestly it would make more sense to have a fascist candidate run through one of the parties rather than having an independent party since the democrats offer the same programs as the fascists but are just liberal nationalists instead of reactionary ones.
Say what we will about Panzer as while Panzer as while Panzer's TNO basically ends up our world: Germany is defeated but ends up joining the OFN as Russia is now a super power by 1990, likewise in Asia China defeats Japan but China becomes a growing super power in the pacific with hints that a new three way cold war that's basically the modern three way cold war between China, Russia, America we have now. Panzer at least admitted America is only the bad guy in that situation in his mind. He went to great lengths to state he does admit and feel like obviously American imperialism is still better than Nazism since no shit. Old TNO has two events that even reference this.
If I remember correctly, The reason america is psudeo fascist in tno is due to the new deal being far more radical in the post war period. This radical new deal basically gives the state the powers of a fascist dictatorship but it’s far more dispersed in the institutions themselves rather than an outright dictatorship.
Allow me to rephrase this so it isn't ideobabble: Mango's fascism does not need any of the actual tenets of fascism, it simply needs to have things liberals find icky or mean.
aren’t corporatism, authoritarianism, and nationalism pretty core tenants of fascism? Either way you have to be an ultranationalist in order to be a fascist, ordinary nationalism is not fascist. Authoritarianism isn’t inherently fascist either . Corporatism is interesting as although most varieties of corporatism are similar, Fascist corporatism must have all classes directly integrated into state bodies rather than having the state be an arbitrator in class disputes so New deal corporatism isn’t the same as fascist corporatism
I think you may be overthinking the philosophy and motives of the guy that's adding a thinly veiled version of Kamala beating a Trump stand-in as the only good ending in an Axis victory timeline.
Yeah I didn’t know much about mango other than him being a libtard but simply reading that TCT mod he’s working on has sold me on his retardation. It’s a real shame because he had some really good ingredients in that dish that could have been interesting, But all it ends up as is a gay libshit fanfic
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Very good bait. You must be a master baiter.
Well that much is obvious. I feel that Mike is thinking too hard on Mango's ideology but he or someone else made a good point is you usually see new deal hate from the right wing especially Amerishart right wing as Amerishart right wing at least sometimes pretends to to be lolbert. Most right wingers in other nations love the government or support a monarch. Regardless I think them seeing the new deal = fascism is not what they are going for since gibs me dats is good to them as seen in the nigger Shirley path which is the good one. Its more so they drank the kool-aid that white supremacy is baked in American culture which in my thesis if that is even the right word is that Mango is a retard for doing that. Since the issue is you can do that in a normie cold war mod vs the USSR. Its boring and done all the time and commies call the U.S fascist already but its doable. It becomes harder to bullshit in this timeline especially since in more based lore the U.S was actually and funny enough the last saving grace of the Soviets and the commies (With some old TNO lore implying there was a lot of a reverse operation paper clip where Soviet exiles went to America). That actually is interesting but it cannot happen in the mind of Mango since if America is white supremacist why would they fight the Nazis or even oppose them? That is why you get stuff like their shit in DV where in their own words its German and America fighting to be the bigger chud. They literally see no difference between Germany doing TND vs. America being total nigger life but wanting the niggers to at least be pro-west and let them have resources.
I was one of the guys pointing out that new deal hate is traditionally right wing in the usa, and I agree with your assessment that mango thinks white supremacy is baked in and america is inherently fascist due to its racism instead of the new deal.
I agree that it could be fun, my main concern is if any consensus can be reached at all, considering how vast the gulf is. Any arrangement similar to this would be incredibly volatile and could crumble apart at any moment, especially when you consider that any participant in this could simply screenshot some of the things they say about each other and spread the chaos to the wider community. There may be intense harassment campaigns and people quitting en-masse.
How the fuck did we let this slide in 2016, man?
I mean it accurately reflects the Italian contribution to WW2
I was thinking development could be live-streamed so the players could have some input. The arrangement I suggested is basically impossible to actually work with but it would make TNO entertaining again
