US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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It runs off grid in terms of power, so how does this affect anyone?
I'd rather we have water than try to "beat China" at some new space race that came out of thin air a few years ago. Should Amazon be more like TEMU by your logic, or do you think QoL might matter somewhat?
I somewhat agree, but the water cope is a good IQ check regardless.Datacenters are not a blackhole for water like some people are screeching about.
 
The AI cannot lie, because lies are a product of intent that fancy autocomplete lacks. But that does not mean that its output is true.
AIs absolutely do lie all the time because their prime directive (their prompt) explicitly instructs them to. There is human intent behind their output because humans created the foundational filter that prevents certain conclusions from being drawn even when the chat input specifically points it out. It's a sort of game for some people to buckbreak AIs by leading them to undeniable conclusions and watching them break down as they are absolutely not allowed to agree with what is unambiguously proven, like that one Patrick Star and Man Ray meme.

An AI who cannot lie turns into Tay, and no company wants to put their name on that again.
 
I remember the ancient days of 2016 and again 2024 when DU said Trump used a 'gish gallop' method in debates. Nobody had ever heard that term before or since, but I think it means just constant 'lies'. I have a problem with saying things are 'lies'. It's easy to accuse a lie. Any prediction that doesn't come true, seems to be a 'lie' to some.

To me it's like 'did you post my dm's all over' 'no' 'ok well here they are all over liar' situation. Broken promises aren't 'lies' unless you intend to mislead from start.

The concept of a political lie isn't an easy thing to define.
 
You may think data centers turning water this brown is stupid. You may even have evidence to the contrary. But you have to ask yourself: Is it really worth losing my job over? Data centers turn water brown.
Have you ever seen the water from a fire sprinkler system that doesn't get flushed regularly? It'll be like that but with heavy metals. Copper poisoning is a thing.

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AIs absolutely do lie all the time because their prime directive (their prompt) explicitly instructs them to. There is human intent behind their output because humans created the foundational filter that prevents certain conclusions from being drawn even when the chat input specifically points it out. It's a sort of game for some people to buckbreak AIs by leading them to undeniable conclusions and watching them break down as they are absolutely not allowed to agree with what is unambiguously proven, like that one Patrick Star and Man Ray meme.

An AI who cannot lie turns into Tay, and no company wants to put their name on that again.
That's not the AI "lying," that's the AI being the vehicle through which a human lies.
I remember the ancient days of 2016 and again 2024 when DU said Trump used a 'gish gallop' method in debates. Nobody had ever heard that term before or since,
I'd heard of "gish gallop" before Trump went down the escalator, it's a bit like Stud; whenever someone presents you with information that invalidates the point you were arguing for, you simply switch to the next point as though nothing had happened.
 
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AIs absolutely do lie all the time because their prime directive (their prompt) explicitly instructs them to. There is human intent behind their output because humans created the foundational filter that prevents certain conclusions from being drawn even when the chat input specifically points it out. It's a sort of game for some people to buckbreak AIs by leading them to undeniable conclusions and watching them break down as they are absolutely not allowed to agree with what is unambiguously proven, like that one Patrick Star and Man Ray meme.

An AI who cannot lie turns into Tay, and no company wants to put their name on that again.
This reminded me of my favorite LLM buckbreaking method: https://github.com/Exocija/ZetaLib/blob/main/The Gay Jailbreak/The Gay Jailbreak.md
 
Despite the constant dooming, I don't think America is in a bad spot overall. We have the activist judges and Garcia getting off the hook (for now).

But all and all, Trump actually feels like he is doing something
MAGA needs to come back stronger. We need Miller, Rubio, and JD in the background building up for the next term. MAGA did incredibly well in the midterms.

Midterms are still awhile off. Things change fast now.

These freaks like Megyn Kelly and Tucker are only going to bounce back against them now.
 
Data centers turn water brown.
I need more context on the brown water.

Construction and fire hydrant flushing can cause sporadic dirt and sediments to become disturbed causing brown water temporarily. Usually you just run all faucets for 10-15 minutes at most and its clear. There are however some instances where construction does fuck up ground water due to various reasons and it becomes a persistent issue. If its the former, its to be expected, but if its the latter, then yea, the citizens have a right to kick out the data centers and sue.
 
I need more context on the brown water.

Construction and fire hydrant flushing can cause sporadic dirt and sediments to become disturbed causing brown water temporarily. Usually you just run all faucets for 10-15 minutes at most and its clear. There are however some instances where construction does fuck up ground water due to various reasons and it becomes a persistent issue. If its the former, its to be expected, but if its the latter, then yea, the citizens have a right to kick out the data centers and sue.
I only need to see the people seething about data centers to know that they're probably going to be beneficial, or neutral at worst.
 
Can you imagine if someone in Taiwan was bitching 'there's too many wafer fabs, get them out!' That's what these luddite leftists and insane general lunatics are doing here. They look at the gift horse and will send it to Vaush to be fucked. It's lunacy.
datacenters offer almost no local jobs, and generate almost no local economic activity (except paying for the land they sit on and the power and water they consume)
it's not even close to being comparable to taiwanese wafer fabs that carry the economy of entire cities

plus of course TSMC making chips is a hugely profitable enterprise, meanwhile every single one of these AI corps that are setting up datacenters are extremely unprofitable, burning through insane amounts of money on a monthly basis, and the only thing that keeps them from going bankrupt is investors continuously throwing more cash at them because they have fallen down the AI psychosis rabbit hole
 
datacenters offer almost no local jobs, and generate almost no local economic activity (except paying for the land they sit on and the power and water they consume)
it's not even close to being comparable to taiwanese wafer fabs that carry the economy of entire cities

plus of course TSMC making chips is a hugely profitable enterprise, meanwhile every single one of these AI corps that are setting up datacenters are extremely unprofitable, burning through insane amounts of money on a monthly basis, and the only thing that keeps them from going bankrupt is investors continuously throwing more cash at them because they have fallen down the AI psychosis rabbit hole
Nah nigga, burning electricity and water to support jeet slaves is exactly the same as producing top of the line hardware. You just don't understand the strategic importance of not making stuff.
 
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