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Anti data center plays huge in rural conservative areas.

Watch out!
On top of that, out west these data centers are a legitimately serious issue because cities either have to ensure they have sufficient water rights to meet the demands of the data center plus their own residents and commercial users, or the center has to buy or lease those rights. This is all due to the weird prior appropriation laws a lot of these states have, where senior rights holders get priority over junior claimants.

Given the west has been in a ongoing drought for 25 years and counting now, the massive amount of water these things use is something that's going to raise alarms.
 
A 40000 acre data center that is bigger than Manhattan and uses more power than the entire state of Utah but only provides 2000 jeet jobs is based and amazing.
just fyi I agree with you completly but if you think the usa has more than 1k data centers I got a damn bridge to sell you

we cant even REMOVE a destroyed bridge in 2 years much less build a new one, if you think the usa somehow built 1000 data centers in that same time....

idk what to tell you

 
On top of that, out west these data centers are a legitimately serious issue because cities either have to ensure they have sufficient water rights to meet the demands of the data center plus their own residents and commercial users, or the center has to buy or lease those rights. This is all due to the weird prior appropriation laws a lot of these states have, where senior rights holders get priority over junior claimants.

Given the west has been in a ongoing drought for 25 years and counting now, the massive amount of water these things use is something that's going to raise alarms.
My solution is that we need to deport millions of spics before building a single new datacenter in the Southwest to offset the resource consumption.
Also California needs to get tard wrangled with their obsession of dumping all the water into the ocean to keep the sewer guppies alive.
 
just fyi I agree with you completly but if you think the usa has more than 1k data centers I got a damn bridge to sell you

we cant even REMOVE a destroyed bridge in 2 years much less build a new one, if you think the usa somehow built 1000 data centers in that same time....

idk what to tell you

https://youtube.com/watch?v=-YRr69h52jc
The data centers are privately owned and benefit the rich

The bridge is publicly owned and benefits the people

That's why the bridge is taking forever and the data centers pop up overnight
 
"We" aren't the ones who can't remove a fallen bridge caused by jeets.

"Dems" da ones who can't remove no bridge because they be a blue state run by dumb blacks an still wanna get theys Chipotles with a full scoop of beef, ya hurrrr???

Data centers in the south will pop up like a normal business park
 
"We" aren't the ones who can't remove a fallen bridge caused by jeets.

"Dems" da ones who can't remove no bridge because they be a blue state run by dumb blacks an still wanna get theys Chipotles with a full scoop of beef, ya hurrrr???

Data centers in the south will pop up like a normal business park
Can you imagine if someone in Taiwan was bitching 'there's too many wafer fabs, get them out!' That's what these luddite leftists and insane general lunatics are doing here. They look at the gift horse and will send it to Vaush to be fucked. It's lunacy.
 
Can you imagine if someone in Taiwan was bitching 'there's too many wafer fabs, get them out!' That's what these luddite leftists and insane general lunatics are doing here. They look at the gift horse and will send it to Vaush to be fucked. It's lunacy.
The wafer fabs are a big part of their economy, employ a lot of people, and are point of national pride. Data centers just exist and don't really provide much direct benefit to the local community outside of tax revenue (but the goverment rarely are responsible with that). I'm not against data centers but I can understand people going full NIMBY about it.
 
It's also baltimore, everyone needs to get a slice of the grift
Baltimore and the northeast is the same economically as California, but with more dumb negroes. But the ripoff $250b train to build nothing scam goes on endlessly in these blue places. They'll build a park for hundreds of millions, and it'll be completely in shambles of fent homeless and wrecked in a year.

There's a solution to this. It's very easy and obvious.

But retards will bitch about Israel's $3b a year when Newsom alone has spent more than *11 GERALD FORD CLASS CARRIERS NOW* on this train shit.

You got these TES losers that will flat out ignore all the scams and fraud, bitch about ICE, and still act like are the good guys. There's a solution there too.
 
just fyi I agree with you completly but if you think the usa has more than 1k data centers I got a damn bridge to sell you

we cant even REMOVE a destroyed bridge in 2 years much less build a new one, if you think the usa somehow built 1000 data centers in that same time....

idk what to tell you

https://youtube.com/watch?v=-YRr69h52jc
The problem is they're trying to repair it, not remove it. Which is considerably more expensive. Baltimore and Maryland are big places marred by insane bureaucracy that can change on a whim. They did have a contract to repair but Maryland decided that the 2 billion repair costs was way to high for its tax payers and canceled the contract.
 
On top of that, out west these data centers are a legitimately serious issue because cities either have to ensure they have sufficient water rights to meet the demands of the data center plus their own residents and commercial users, or the center has to buy or lease those rights. This is all due to the weird prior appropriation laws a lot of these states have, where senior rights holders get priority over junior claimants.

Given the west has been in a ongoing drought for 25 years and counting now, the massive amount of water these things use is something that's going to raise alarms.
Add into that Nestle and other companies draining the aquifier for bottled water, and top it off with the fucking almost orchards destroying the water system, and there's serious problems on the west coast.

Some Fucking Dildo Catcher dijo:
we cant even REMOVE a destroyed bridge in 2 years much less build a new one, if you think the usa somehow built 1000 data centers in that same time....
The DoT and the people making the data centers are as different as night and day.

The DoT isn't about making money, it's about extracting money.

Data centers are about people like you replacing their brains.
 
The problem is they're trying to repair it, not remove it. Which is considerably more expensive. Baltimore and Maryland are big places marred by insane bureaucracy that can change on a whim. They did have a contract to repair but Maryland decided that the 2 billion repair costs was way to high for its tax payers and canceled the contract.
lol wrong, the last proposal was to build an entirely new bridge a few hundred feet away as opposed to just rebuilding the already existing bridge to previous spec and re-suing what could be, that would have been much faster which is why they chose not to do it.
 
Add into that Nestle and other companies draining the aquifier for bottled water, and top it off with the fucking almost orchards destroying the water system, and there's serious problems on the west coast.
The almond orchards and a lot of these other farms have been around for decades, though. The percentage of water used by agriculture as a whole out west has actually dropped due to the rapid urbanization in the last couple of generations, but they're still the majority of users.

The main problem is that a lot of these water projects and management systems were built in the 20th century, when we happened to luck into a relatively wet period with a lot more years during that time with average or higher than average precipitation, than dry years. The Colorado River Compact was drawn up based on a single, particularly wet year, and that thing covers seven fucking large states. I have a photo from March of 2000 at Hoover Dam that shows Lake Mead at the absolute top of the intake towers, and it hadn't even captured the main April runoff period yet. This is what it looked like in June four years ago:
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The snowpack level in Colorado this past year was absolutely awful, and the Bureau of Reclamation is predicting that Lake Mead and Lake Powell might even hit deadpool status this summer. AI centers or not, the west needs to get serious really fucking quick about how its water is managed, because the only real hope the region has--redrawing the state lines along their watersheds, like John Wesley Powell proposed, and implementing a riparian rather than prior appropriation water laws--is politically impossible. And as you point out, that doesn't even get into California's relative green cult stupidity.
 
I agree on nuclear, but that's not the only playing field. The USSR also claimed a lot of BS too. This will take some time to shake out. At least the US isn't like frigging europe that's throwing in the towel on energy, yet.
Conquer Canada, install the data centers in the frozen tundra, and enslave the surviving canucks to do all the menial servicing.
 
The snowpack level in Colorado this past year was absolutely awful, and the Bureau of Reclamation is predicting that Lake Mead and Lake Powell might even hit deadpool status this summer. AI centers or not, the west needs to get serious really fucking quick about how its water is managed, because the only real hope the region has--redrawing the state lines along their watersheds, like John Wesley Powell proposed, and implementing a riparian rather than prior appropriation water laws--is politically impossible. And as you point out, that doesn't even get into California's relative green cult stupidity.
It's not the weather, just like the CA fires, insane gas prices, and all of it. It's a political problem. They're going to go to their graves thinking they can't change though. Worse then then eastern commies.

If you go to the southwest USA and study it, you'll see how it quickly shifts and the natives in the Pueblo and Navaho lands had to come and go over times to adjust to the weather patterns. They didn't have the tech to deal with it. We do now, if needed.

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LA and California could end up like this. Not conquered, just ran off from like Mesa Verde because the weather changed (and not due to global warming). These idiots need to prepare for this stuff and learn from the past.
 
It's not the weather, just like the CA fires, insane gas prices, and all of it. It's a political problem. They're going to go to their graves thinking they can't change though. Worse then then eastern commies.

If you go to the southwest USA and study it, you'll see how it quickly shifts and the natives in the Pueblo and Navaho lands had to come and go over times to adjust to the weather patterns. They didn't have the tech to deal with it. We do now, if needed.

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LA and California could end up like this. Not conquered, just ran off from like Mesa Verde because the weather changed (and not due to global warming). These idiots need to prepare for this stuff and learn from the past.
Brown people dont build cool shit like this anymore :sad:
 
Brown people dont build cool shit like this anymore :sad:
I climbed up there. My fav is the smaller sites like Petrified Forest national park. You can see the rock outlines of the houses, foundations of places. I really wish I could go to Rome even just Byzantine Anatolia or England stuff that has stuff so much still existent that is cooler. Arches National Park has similar, not super ancient leftovers, maybe 600 years, but long before euros came. It's cool cause it's not renowned like the Euro sites even though Europe is full of 1500+ year old ruins that are still more impressive than most US Native ruins.

But I did love hunting those areas for petroglyphs, had an old book that showed if you go off trail you can find them. In a way those simpler things are pretty amazing.

The NA Natives mostly built of wood and they're just long gone, but probably impressive at the time for sure. I saw the giant mound east of St Louis, it's still impressive, but most of it was wood all around and long gone. Only in the Maya/Inca used much stone work, never been there.

Petrified Forest has a lot of these, among all the painted desert and wild colored hills. It's really magical.

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Never got to go to Pueblo Canyon (Casa Grande) itself, which wasn't all that far off in the end, but out reaches that by a lot I hear.
 
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