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Where the fuck was this Thomas Massie for the last several years?

Too gassed up on dick pills and TSA handles.

Guy had a midlife sexual exploration. Very similar to what happened to Rackets, and a lot of dweebs that get some notoriety in life, and get attention from women for the first time.

Losing a wife is an unimaginable pain to me, I can't comprehend how I'd move on from something like that. Massie however seemed to respond like a freed POW. He was (maybe) faithful to his wife as her life was tragically cut short, but once free of the moral judgement from the rest of the world, he capitalized on suddenly having the influence to womanize.

Extremely tacky, not something I'm really going to moral fag about in and of itself. It happens to a lot of guys that don't know how to handle not being ignored by women, and I can't say exactly how I'd cope with trauma if losing a spouse.

However, when you start leading a moral witch hunt, essentially to sabotage you're own party and the representation your constituents elected, you open yourself up to having stones cast back at you, and I hope they keep coming until he's completely insignificant.

The real question here is, why Barnes so attracted to these types?
 
That could be - it's certainly a possibility that can't be ignored. But that assumes that AI is going to continue to scale at the same pace it has over the past two years and that the bubble isn't going to burst within the next decade or so. While there will be and has been an overall decrease in SW jobs I'm not (yet) of the opinion that it'll completely supercede them. Plus, while you're right that the poos are going balls deep into investing into specialized LLMs, they're not the only ones with access to it. Anything an Indian can do, a White guy can do more efficiently and...well, better. The difference in quality between a jeet vibe coding all their shit with Claude and an actual SWE using it to augment their work is night and day.

I'm also convinced that we're beginning to hit a wall with what AI is actually capable of doing by itself. For instance Opus 4.7 costs five times as much per request as Opus 4.6 (15x that of Sonnet/GPT 5.4), and it does not perform 5x better by any metric at least from what I've seen. Not to mention the logistical bottleneck of supporting the innumerable data centers required to meet demand for these things.

I dunno, I'm in the middle with all of the AI and LLM stuff. Frankly I can be convinced either way and I've oscillated between "it's so over" and "it's so back" for the past couple years. In general I think it's too early to start *truly* dooming, but I'm open to being proven wrong. Hopefully not though.
We've seen when AI is used as is, it's a disaster. Indians will copy pasta without understanding. AI isn't for that here.
 
Debbie W-S isn't backing down from accusations of being not-black, she's got posters of her black friend!

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Wasserman Schultz Runs for Congress in CD 20, Stiff Arms Racially-Driven Pushback From Black Democrats​

Redistricting continues to scrabble congressional districts​

In a short congressional reelection video filled with constituent testimonials, Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D) has managed to land a jab and a body blow to both Republicans and Democrats who have been urging her not to run in Florida’s 20th congressional district.

“Today, I am announcing my candidacy for reelection in congressional district 20, because we cannot let Trump destroy Broward County’s power,” state Rep. Wasserman Schultz said during her announcement video.

Rep. Wasserman, who used the likeness of former President Barack Obama in the background of the video, reminded Democratic voters that she ran the Democratic National Committee (DNC) by “answering President Obama’s call to lead.”


“Republicans couldn’t care less about lowering your healthcare, gas, or grocery bills. I will use all of my seniority and clout in Washington to continue to make our lives more affordable and make Broward a safer place to live, raise a family, and retire,” Wasserman Schultz added before appearing to take a swipe at some outspoken Black Democrats.

“ Some people do a lot of talking. I work hard to deliver results,” quipped the popular Democratic congresswoman.

While Democrats embraced her tenacity and grit to legislate and represent her constituents in the newly redrawn congressional district 22, and Republicans have targeted her for defeat since she first took office, Wasserman Schultz has delivered for her district and led the charge against the growing anti-Jewish and anti-Israel sentiment.

The Black Congressional Caucus and the Broward Black Democratic Caucus have recently turned on her, playing the Race Card against her because of the color of her skin.

“We want to have someone with our lived experience representing us in Congress,” State Senator Rosalind Osgood said on CBS News Miami. “We want little Black boys and little Black girls to see somebody that looks like them so that they can dream.”In looking at the demographic breakdown of CD 20, contrary to what some believe, and while there is a significant amount of Black voters living in the district, this is a predominantly white district.

Wasserman Schultz joins the crowded Democratic field of black congressional candidates, which includes Rep. Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick, Dale Holness, Elijah Manley, Rudolph Mois, and Luther Campbell.
 
OH LOL apparently Debbie is trying for the same slot as the 2 Live Crew guy

Elijah Manley slams decision by Debbie Wasserman Schultz to run in CD 20

The Democratic candidate said a move that could reduce Black representation is no better than Republicans' redistricting efforts.
Congressional candidate Elijah Manley is hammering U.S. Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz for choosing to run in a plurality Black seat.

Under Florida’s new congressional map, the Weston Democrat announced she would run in Florida’s 20th Congressional District, where Manley has been campaigning since last year.

“I’m not surprised that Debbie Wasserman Schultz is carpetbagging to FL-20, a black opportunity district, abandoning her own district and constituents,” Manley said.

“She is no different than the Republicans that are eviscerating black representation across the South. She is everything that’s wrong with the broken unpopular Democratic establishment. This ain’t Weston. I look forward to retiring her from public office permanently.”

Since the new map was approved by Gov. Ron DeSantis, Manley said he will continue to run in CD 20. DeSantis’ Office redrew a “race-neutral” map that dismantled a version of the district effectively in place since the 1990s that had been a majority Black seat.

But much of the populated area of the outgoing CD 20 remains in the new version. And while no longer majority Black, the district under the new cartography remains a majority minority seat. About 42% of the voting age population is Black, more than 23% is Hispanic and almost 4% is Asian, while 30% of voting age residents are White.

Manley first jumped into the race to challenge U.S. Rep. Sheila Cherfilus-McCormick, who was under House Ethics Committee investigation related to accusations she siphoned millions in federal relief dollars to her 2021 congressional campaign. Cherfilus-McCormick resigned earlier this year before an expected Committee vote recommending her expulsion, but remains under federal criminal indictment and faces a trial next year.

But she is also still running for re-election to the seat, meaning Manley now faces two people who have won repeated elections for Congress in the region.

Manley also faces former 2 Live Crew front man Luke Campbell, former Broward County Mayor Dale Holness, Dr. Rudolph Moise and Maisha Williams, daughter of late U.S. Rep. Alcee Hastings, in a Democratic Primary.
 
This is likely his pivot to a presidential run
I honestly don't even think he makes it to application, but 0% chance he lasts to any votes. The Presidental run calls are turbonigger groypercattle coping before the new programming comes in from the talking heads.

Massie is an major embarrassment to the Podcast Race of the Retarded Right and they need him to be forgotten about by the end of summe so that can grift on whatever subversive topic du jour the NGOs are paying them to spew to try and lose the Midterms.

I expect them to pivot soon and sink him themselves. They will blame his womanizing costing them the election, not that they are insufferable, irrelevant to US Politics, and only notable because Indians are overwhelm Internet metrics.
 
Debbie W-S isn't backing down from accusations of being not-black, she's got posters of her black friend!
It's super-mecha-ultra-confederate-nazism when Republicans prevent a congressional district from having a black representative but it's okay when Democrats do it.
I honestly don't even think he makes it to application, but 0% chance he lasts to any votes. The Presidental run calls are turbonigger groypercattle coping before the new programming comes in from the talking heads.

Massie is an major embarrassment to the Podcast Race of the Retarded Right and they need him to be forgotten about by the end of summe so that can grift on whatever subversive topic du jour the NGOs are paying them to spew to try and lose the Midterms.

I expect them to pivot soon and sink him themselves. They will blame his womanizing costing them the election, not that they are insufferable, irrelevant to US Politics, and only notable because Indians are overwhelm Internet metrics.
It's more of a run for a cushy cable news position via a presidential run than a presidential run, but he is definitely doing it. He just need to get on the debate stage to deliver the right talking points.
 
Renner looked at the national scene and said "Yes, now is a perfect time to attack the Trump pick"


Going scorched earth on Byron Donalds — at Memorial Day, of all times — is instead scorching Paul Renner’s own earth

Renner is positioning himself to be next on President Donald Trump's revenge tour.


Paul Renner — at this moment in time — can best be described as a good man making a self-destructive bet by going scorched earth against Donald Trump-backed Byron Donalds ahead of Memorial Day Weekend.

Or maybe it’s just desperation.

In any case, the political committee backing Renner’s bid for Governor launched an ad in the Tampa Bay area attacking Donalds for “missing hundreds of congressional votes” and, among other allegations, “making money hand over fist,” as POLITICO Florida first reported.

The ad directs viewers to an opposition site attacking Donalds on six fronts: stock trades, AI and profit, crime, criminal past, racial policies and his record in Congress.

Renner has an esteemed career in politics, punctuated by his time as House Speaker where he served as an effective leader who didn’t waste time mugging for the cameras. He’s also a decorated Navy veteran who served in two wars.

That record is what makes Renner’s decision to go so negative against a political foe who sits in the President’s good graces, at a time when Trump’s retribution has been kicked into high gear, so surprising.

POLITICO this week positioned the President’s “revenge tour” against those who have crossed him as being “completed.” He came out on the winning side of his opposition to U.S. Rep. Thomas Massie of Kentucky when he was defeated in the state’s Primary this week.

It’s almost as if Renner hasn’t been watching the news this week, because it doesn’t stop there. In Texas, Trump is giving incumbent U.S. Sen. John Cornyn the proverbial finger, backing his GOP challenger, Ken Paxton, over a perceived lack of loyalty from Cornyn.

Then there’s U.S. Sen. Bill Cassidy of Louisiana, who faced Trump’s wrath over his vote to remove Trump from office after he was impeached over the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol. Cassidy lost this week in the GOP Primary to a Republican that Trump recruited to challenge him.

The point is: Republicans who go against Trump are dropping like flies. By attacking Donalds, Renner is essentially attacking Trump. And if he thinks that will improve his already insignificant showing in Florida’s Governor’s race, we may have a bridge in Brooklyn to sell him.

But that may, indeed, be the gamble. As it stands, Donalds looks unbeatable. A recent Fabrizio, Lee & Associates poll of the race showed Donalds with 54% support among GOP Primary voters. No other candidate in the race even enters double-digit support and Renner is dead last among all of them — at just 2% support.

His support is lower even than the poll’s margin of error.

And what is perhaps worse for any Republican gubernatorial candidate not named Donalds — especially anyone directly attacking him — is that the pollsters credited Donalds’ continued growth in support to Republicans learning that he has Trump’s backing.

What’s more, Donalds is a fundraising machine, with $67 million raised so far, including $22 million in the first quarter of 2026 alone.

Then there is this: Renner should know better than to use what is otherwise a somber holiday to go on the offense against a political opponent. Memorial Day is a time to honor and remember those who paid the ultimate price in defense of our nation’s safety and values. The attack, paired with poor timing, may do more harm than good for a candidate already struggling to find relevance.

And for what?

A Texas businessman who supports Cornyn posed a question to POLITICO this week about Trump’s support for Paxton: “What’s the return on investment?”

While that question centered more on the risk Trump was taking — if Cornyn does lose, he’ll have about six months left in office to vote without fear of retribution against myriad Trump policies — the sentiment is directly attributable to Renner’s attack play against Donalds.

It is clear Renner is not going to outraise Donalds, and it’s even more clear he can’t out-Trump him either. What that leaves as the most likely scenario is that rather than boosting his own campaign, Renner’s attacks will instead aid David Jolly, the leading Democrat in the Governor’s race.

By launching a website drawing on Donalds’ negatives, Renner is building Democrats’ Fall ad reel. And a Republican who aids the opposition has no future in the GOP.
 
Tulsi was a genuinely independent person, by all accounts. Hope she lands well.
I hope the things she was overseeing get passed along as smoothly as all the shit in the DoJ pipeline(that Bondi will never get credit for). The Election integrity stuff is extremely important, especially if my suspicion is correct that it was being handled under her department because there is foreign red hands on the steal.
 
For what its worth, pricing is still well below cost for most of the models, and its only just starting to go up some. Once they start actually pricing to break even, much less to make money, it's just gonna get worse as they fall into a cycle of reduced audience due to price, increasing the fixed-cost load of every other user, decreasing userbase even more. Like all cloud infrastructure, it only works at or above a certain scale of use.
The models are underpriced on the order of 10x.

As an analogy, AI is today what fiber optic internet was 1997. A lot of smart people made a lot of correct predictions about what fiber optic internet would be able to do in the 1990s. They weren't technologically wrong, but what they got wrong was the economics. Fiber was 10x too expensive, if not more. Many, many miles of fiber were laid down back then that never got used. The economics of fiber make sense now, almost 30 years after the internet went public.

We don't even have that many productive use cases for AI. We have seen lots and lots of parlor tricks that destroy value. We're not even sure how valuable AI-assisted software development is because as much as 90% of the cost is being eaten by investors.
 
That could be - it's certainly a possibility that can't be ignored. But that assumes that AI is going to continue to scale at the same pace it has over the past two years and that the bubble isn't going to burst within the next decade or so. While there will be and has been an overall decrease in SW jobs I'm not (yet) of the opinion that it'll completely supercede them. Plus, while you're right that the poos are going balls deep into investing into specialized LLMs, they're not the only ones with access to it. Anything an Indian can do, a White guy can do more efficiently and...well, better. The difference in quality between a jeet vibe coding all their shit with Claude and an actual SWE using it to augment their work is night and day.

I'm also convinced that we're beginning to hit a wall with what AI is actually capable of doing by itself. For instance Opus 4.7 costs five times as much per request as Opus 4.6 (15x that of Sonnet/GPT 5.4), and it does not perform 5x better by any metric at least from what I've seen. Not to mention the logistical bottleneck of supporting the innumerable data centers required to meet demand for these things.

I dunno, I'm in the middle with all of the AI and LLM stuff. Frankly I can be convinced either way and I've oscillated between "it's so over" and "it's so back" for the past couple years. In general I think it's too early to start *truly* dooming, but I'm open to being proven wrong. Hopefully not though.
We have two immediate futures, and I don't know which one is coming.

Either LLM based AIs is a dead end and we'll hit a wall soon, causing the entire thing to collapse as a bubble
Or LLM based AIs will be a big enough force multiplier for actual competent engineers that they make the next technology after LLM based AIs, and things just continue to get crazier. (This includes if they keep making LLM based AIs cheaper, or make some new computronium, or advancements in power generation that makes LLM based AIs trivial to run and host.)

Either way, the economy as we know it is over, we just haven't seen the impact event yet.

In the former, the LLM-based-AI bubble collapses and takes out the tech industry and every industry connected to it, alongside all it's investors. We're talking 1970s crash if not 1929 crash levels. It also instantly activates the 2008 crash that they've been propping up for 20 years with money printing. Everything gets bad, and since we've used up most of the cheap oil, I don't know if we recover from that in our lifetimes.

In the latter, a whole lot of work goes away overnight with no possibility of replacement. No truck drivers, no shelf stockers, no programmers or customer support or marketing... Heck might even be no, say, teachers. I don't know what billions of people are going to do when we literally can't find work because a computer + "reality interface device" (robot) + autoCAD / 3D Printer system can replace everyone and everything at a competitive rate. When computers can drive trucks + interface with the computers running the forklifts to unload trucks + interface with the robots managing the warehouses all at a cheaper, infinitely scaleable rate compared to hiring people to do the same thing, what are all the people who would have drove trucks, forklifts, and worked the warehouse jobs gonna do?
 
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