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[BIG SHOT Autos]

Someone in real life told me that demonic possessions were not a thing in the modern age.

But there's one thing Null, owner of this site that shook me to the core. That trans people behave exactly like how the bible describes demonic possession. Including self mutilation, and using plurals such as "They" like Legion did to refer to themselves.

They even literally, and willingly take the names of demons such as "Lilith".

I know Null is likely not a christian, but it's still a valid point. Perhaps they never went away. They just became more subtle.

This, pretty much. """Cis""" people aren't free from this as well, general depression, addiction, cluster B disorders that make narcissism a modern day pandemic, all this is essentially just demon activity. People were always prone to be influenced by dark forces but these past centuries we practically started inviting this stuff into our lives. I think this is true to pagan places as well in a sense that while they were bowing to false gods this whole time, there was still some spiritual humility that kept some demonic influence at bay somehow. These days people think of themselves as gods, so demons are going completely off the rails with having fun with us.

I used to be extremely depressed (y'all can tell anyway), prone to various forms of self-harm and it took a lot of willpower and energy wasted on trying to suppress it all. My first post on here is literally about waking up from gender cult. Dabbling with the occult didn't help either.
I can describe it all as being "drunk" all the time. It's like I was under a spell. General psychotherapy did help a bit, but it was a band-aid solution. I sensed that something is off all the time, because that sense of "being under a spell" didn't go away. I also noticed that my natural gift of discernment started to feel like paranoia which added more to the torment. Asking Jesus to come into my life because I was completely out of options, and also I didn't know at the moment why I even asked Him specifically, removed like 90% of my mental issues. Even my mind started to work differently and this sense of being under a spell/"drunk" has disappeared practically overnight without even me having any faith in it, which was a proof that Jesus is real and is a Living God, an active participant in our lives. It was also a proof to me that not all mental illness is "valid" in a sense of being "real illness", it may be literally just spiritual warfare. (Our modern world that breeds mental disorders is also a part of said warfare, IMO.)

Anyway. I also recalled something that my friend, who is still a massive gendie with self-diagnosed autism, said. She also self-diagnosed herself with DID and talks quite often about her "alter". Sounds like being possessed, and guess what? At some point she told that the alter appeared in a relatively strange way, she noticed some black fog/smoke appearing in peripheral vision and out of that smoke her alter appeared.
I find it curious that the alter is hyperfeminine in a pornified way, similar to a succubus, meanwhile the friend is currently "masculine pangender" and dresses the way hypersexual pooners usually do (read, ugly and wearing revealing/odd/sexual clothes). The friend was always a gender conforming heterosexual girl up until mid 20s, nowadays she intentionally uglifies herself and is only into feminine people (women and troons) and at some point she told me that her alter wanted to have sex with me.

Tell me this isn't demonic lmao. And there are thousands, if not millions, of people like this.

 

[Ananias47]

Jersh is religious, he quoted Romans 6:23 when Byuu tried to bribe him to take down his thread.

Oh okay that's pretty cool.

 

[Catgirl Tyranid]

I have a question. Does anyone know why the site has Bible verses at the bottom? Is it just a troll or what? I mean don't get me wrong. I like that they're there. I'm just curious on why.

It used to be a Seal of Solomon (I think, don't quote me on this) in an attempt to ward off the demonic tranny hoard, but someone told him he was misapplying the seal or something and it was switched to the bible verse.

I think there are some posts about it in the MATI thread if you want to dig deeper.

 

[Soycast II]

This, pretty much. """Cis""" people aren't free from this as well, general depression, addiction, cluster B disorders that make narcissism a modern day pandemic, all this is essentially just demon activity. People were always prone to be influenced by dark forces but these past centuries we practically started inviting this stuff into our lives. I think this is true to pagan places as well in a sense that while they were bowing to false gods this whole time, there was still some spiritual humility that kept some demonic influence at bay somehow. These days people think of themselves as gods, so demons are going completely off the rails with having fun with us.

I used to be extremely depressed (y'all can tell anyway), prone to various forms of self-harm and it took a lot of willpower and energy wasted on trying to suppress it all. My first post on here is literally about waking up from gender cult. Dabbling with the occult didn't help either.
I can describe it all as being "drunk" all the time. It's like I was under a spell. General psychotherapy did help a bit, but it was a band-aid solution. I sensed that something is off all the time, because that sense of "being under a spell" didn't go away. I also noticed that my natural gift of discernment started to feel like paranoia which added more to the torment. Asking Jesus to come into my life because I was completely out of options, and also I didn't know at the moment why I even asked Him specifically, removed like 90% of my mental issues. Even my mind started to work differently and this sense of being under a spell/"drunk" has disappeared practically overnight without even me having any faith in it, which was a proof that Jesus is real and is a Living God, an active participant in our lives. It was also a proof to me that not all mental illness is "valid" in a sense of being "real illness", it may be literally just spiritual warfare. (Our modern world that breeds mental disorders is also a part of said warfare, IMO.)

Anyway. I also recalled something that my friend, who is still a massive gendie with self-diagnosed autism, said. She also self-diagnosed herself with DID and talks quite often about her "alter". Sounds like being possessed, and guess what? At some point she told that the alter appeared in a relatively strange way, she noticed some black fog/smoke appearing in peripheral vision and out of that smoke her alter appeared.
I find it curious that the alter is hyperfeminine in a pornified way, similar to a succubus, meanwhile the friend is currently "masculine pangender" and dresses the way hypersexual pooners usually do (read, ugly and wearing revealing/odd/sexual clothes). The friend was always a gender conforming heterosexual girl up until mid 20s, nowadays she intentionally uglifies herself and is only into feminine people (women and troons) and at some point she told me that her alter wanted to have sex with me.

Tell me this isn't demonic lmao. And there are thousands, if not millions, of people like this.

I used to do cashiering, and every once in a while there was that out of the ordinary customer. A decent amount of trannies, yes. There was one that came up to my register, a lot taller than me and he had on a dress. As soon as he came up the air grew heavier, it felt like it got hotter, and I was pretty terrified. He had a really foul mouth too. (Not like I’m much better there but it stuck out with the context of the situation) I mean, it could just be natural as I’ve always been disgusted by these people so I’m not gonna rule out that explanation, but that’s what evil feels like if I could describe it. Every once in a while there’s just that “feeling” too like something malevolent is close by, like in my house, and it felt similar to that but who knows.

Oh yeah, here’s something I thought I’d edit in because I remembered it. Back in October I went to mass for the first time. I hadn’t gone to a church since I was 14 so it had been awhile. Well that same night, I was going to sleep and had all these peaceful thoughts about going to mass again, and then suddenly I became terrified. I looked to an area of my room and it felt like a predator hunting its prey. It was the feeling of pure evil and you would have to experience it yourself to really understand it. I couldn’t see anything, but it felt like something was there. It’s still pretty difficult for my brain to process how angels, who are beings of pure goodness, could become something more terrifying than all the evil in the world combined. Thought I’d share that.

 

[Squanto Airi]

May you all have a blessed feast day of the Ascension of Our Lord.

 

[Dan of Steel]

Someone in real life told me that demonic possessions were not a thing in the modern age.

Modernists and beyond have focused merely on materialism and hyper rationality, forgetting things that cannot be measured can still exist.

"There are more things in heaven and earth than dreamt of in your philosophy, Horatio"

Where people that are more secular I think get tripped up or at least I know I did is that "demons" takes away agency from someone possessed. Although now I believe it's not like that at all. You have the power to overcome demons. Carl Jung and the people that originated the 12-step program knew this, it's why one of the steps is giving yourself over to a higher power. Obviously mental illness is real, factors such as how someone grows up, how they're raised, how there parents are. But there are things that cannot be quantified by material sciences. The good news is, nothing is new under the sun, and no demons/spirits/whatever you want to call them are above Christ's authority.

 

[Neverender]

And there are thousands, if not millions, of people like this.

This hit me hard when I first reflected on it during my conversion. "...small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it." It didn't sink in at first that Jesus wasn't saying His message would be hidden, but that most would ignore it and many of that number will choose death and evil over life. There are millions, billions of people who have nothing to protect them from the fire, and the only reason I'm any different is the mercy of Christ.

 

[Soycast II]

This hit me hard when I first reflected on it during my conversion. "...small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it." It didn't sink in at first that Jesus wasn't saying His message would be hidden, but that most would ignore it and many of that number will choose death and evil over life. There are millions, billions of people who have nothing to protect them from the fire, and the only reason I'm any different is the mercy of Christ.

Even most Christian’s don’t wanna do the bare minimum. Think about how many people are merely culturally Christian. I hear Brazil is a particularly bad country for that. Now it especially makes sense when people say that hell is a choice. Most simply don’t care.

 

[Squanto Airi]

Where people that are more secular I think get tripped up or at least I know I did is that "demons" takes away agency from someone possessed

I agree with you, and I don't think any serious Christian thinks that way. The demons merely want you to do the sin by your own hand so that they can revel in your despair that happens after the sin occurs.

Even most Christian’s don’t wanna do the bare minimum. Think about how many people are merely culturally Christian. I hear Brazil is a particularly bad country for that. Now it especially makes sense when people say that hell is a choice. Most simply don’t care.

I feel as though that was one reason the Desert Fathers and Mothers ran to the desert: to flee that temptation of being merely culturally Christian, as was all the rage back when it was first legal to worship Christ

 

[Sooty Soot]

Stumbled upon this site straight out of 2005 while searching for degoogled Chromium browsers, funnily enough. I was linked to a privacy focused blog on neocities with some frankly depressing stuff about how big tech is constantly spying on us and how things are going to get worse, then at the bottom of the main index page there's a link to this website. To be honest, all this stuff about UFOs and psychics scares me, mainly from a rational perspective rather than a religious one, how can we reconcile all of this stuff with the Bible? There's obviously a whole set of rules that apply to the paranormal, like how and when ghosts appear, the beaches of Normandy aren't filled with hundreds of see-through GI apparitions for example, but the question is how does it fit in a Christian theological worldview? Funnily enough, the author of the page also has a section on deboonking Christianity, which makes sense since this is from the early 2011s when edgy atheism was the norm, in a way it's a mix between that and the current fad of Gnosticism/schizo religious beliefs.

 

[Cassius Crayfish]

Someone in real life told me that demonic possessions were not a thing in the modern age.

But there's one thing Null, owner of this site that shook me to the core. That trans people behave exactly like how the bible describes demonic possession. Including self mutilation, and using plurals such as "They" like Legion did to refer to themselves.

They even literally, and willingly take the names of demons such as "Lilith".

I know Null is likely not a christian, but it's still a valid point. Perhaps they never went away. They just became more subtle.

Another example, listen to stories of people on certain drugs - they'll become supernaturally strong, filled with rage, climbing up walls.

 

[Yeet Ninja]

To be honest, all this stuff about UFOs and psychics scares me, mainly from a rational perspective rather than a religious one, how can we reconcile all of this stuff with the Bible?

I typed out this long, thoughtful response but when I hit post it just disappeared. So sloppy version incoming...
The concept of channeling spirits is Biblically possible so I don't know how that would a challenge. The UFO phenomena falls into multiple categores; none of which are a challenge either.
1) misidentification. balloons, aircraft etc
2) black budget military tech.
Neither of these two are a challenge for obvious reasons.
3) genuine alien visitation. Even though it's fashionable to say alien life is all but assured (based on things like the made up Drake Equation), it's very possible we are indeed alone in the universe. And if we aren't, it's vanishingly improbable we're being visited. Improbabilities aside, it's still not a challenge Biblically. It used to be near dogma to believe in alien life (the principle of plentitude). A main factor for abandoning it was evolution. The assumption was alien life would prove evolution but why aliens couldn't be specially created in the same way humans are (under a traditional creationist model) is never explained. I suspect the creationists of the time retreated from the position because then they would have to argue ET was also made in the image of God. To which I would say, so what? The image of God is about representation. The earth is described as a temple. The last thing you'd do when making a temple was place an image/icon/idol of the deity in the temple. So God places his image (humans) in his temple (earth). This says nothing of other images (aliens) in other temples (planets). This is basically what Lewis' space trilogy was about.
4) demons. Obviously biblically compatible. However I would like to point out the strange way both demonic and UFO cultural expectations have shifted independently of each other. But for now, they've somewhat aligned. We've always had stories of elves, fairies, incubus, succubus, demons etc. Now we have aliens. What we lacked in the prior stories was spaceships. MIT, of all people, noted this in a paper at an abduction conference.
What's disturbing to me is it seems 2 and 4 desperately want us to think it's 3.

 

[Sooty Soot]

Peace Is Coming - Jon McNaughton

 

[Chicha Drinker]

Is it heretical to say Apostle Paul was a chud (comedic connotation)? My friend brought it up in a conversation and now im curious what you all have to say

 

[Soycast II]

Is it heretical to say Apostle Paul was a chud (comedic connotation)? My friend brought it up in a conversation and now im curious what you all have to say

I don’t really see why it would be.

 

[Slap47]

The only actual group of people to ever truly attempt to put away "racism"

White people replaced an original sin that applies to all people equally with an original sin that only applies to white people.
They did not "do away" with racism.

Modern progressivism is actually a rejection of the equality that is baked into Christianity.

 

[Lord of the Large Pants]

I'm going to powerlevel a little, but this is probably the right thread for it.

A couple months ago, things at my job were starting to look questionable, and it's only gotten worse since then. I've been there 10 years and I've really had a hard time leaving what had been, up until recently, a pretty good deal.

At the same time, I was approached by some friends who had no idea of my situation and offered me a new job on a silver platter. They told me that all their previous candidates sucked and I should come interview. I didn't really want to talk away from a good thing, but I figured, it couldn't hurt to talk to them. I did, and it went extremely well. My new boss liked me and my skills matched the work. Well, it turns out they made me an offer right when layoffs were starting to hit. I'm heading into a prestigious, high paying position with hardly any effort on my part.

I don't really look forward to the extra work. It's a lot of pressure, a lot of responsibility. I was happy in my okay paying, mid level position where I didn't really have to work that hard. That was enough for me. I did fine. But the timing, the experience I gained in this previous job, the way I originally made these contacts... I can't describe it as anything short of providential. I cannot begin to explain, without much more severe powerleveling, how there's no possible way that this is coincidence. On top of all that, my friends have asked for my help.

Despite the fact that I don't really look forward to having to work for a living, long hours and a lot of responsibility, the type of work sounds like it was made for me. I have done absolutely nothing to earn this. It's been given to me freely as a gift. Most people hate their jobs, if they can even find one. I've been given one most people would kill for, with virtually no effort of my own

All I can do is thank the God who has done this for me.

 

[Squanto Airi]

Is it heretical to say Apostle Paul was a chud (comedic connotation)? My friend brought it up in a conversation and now im curious what you all have to say

I'd just have concern, since the people who call St. Paul a "chud" are the feminists/male feminists who don't understand that having the woman being quiet and having her husband ask questions she has is part of her becoming humble.

Anyways, have this sweet Japanese artwork of St. George and the dragon

 

[Chicha Drinker]

I'd just have concern, since the people who call St. Paul a "chud" are the feminists/male feminists who don't understand that having the woman being quiet and having her husband ask questions she has is part of her becoming humble.

Anyways, have this sweet Japanese artwork of St. George and the dragon
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Thats why i said comedic connotation, not talking about those people's view

 

[Lurkmastergarbo]

I just got done cleaning some stuff for my priest. I think I remember people in this thread saying "oh he probably doesn't do anything for his church" or something. I mean I don't really get it, it never really sat right with me to think "oh he disagrees with me therefore irrelevant bad thing."

Anyway, what do you guys think?

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