US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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[GameratePTSD]

The reality is that most western Jews are not Zionists--they're ambiguous, at best, about Israel. If they believed in the concept of a Promised Land, they'd be living over their right now in a country that was explicitly carved out for them as an ethno-nationalist state.

This isn't really true and Zionist aren't even really religious. 'Zionism' is a concept for Jews to discuss among themselves about what's best for Jews, and some western secular Jews are against it only because they don't think it's best for Jews.
A JFNA (Jewish Federations of North America) survey found 37% of Jewish Americans identify as Zionist (Idk how good that survey is I just googled it) and that's the strongest way to put believing in Israel. 'Zionism' is an extremely contentious and politically fraught term with connections to Israeli far right terrorism, and over a third of western Jews identified with that. A lot of surveys also intentionally try to avoid relating their questions directly to the term 'zionism' because they feel it's tainted.
Meanwhile nine out of ten American Jews STRONGLY support Israel's right to exist. They know it's an ethno-nationalist state and support it for that reason alone, not for some vague religious promise. Here's a picture from 2020, different research. It's not insignificant. Even 40% of left wing Jews feel it's not only important but essential.

 

[Unredacted TND]

Gay Marriage. One version of the argument against it is the Government shouldn't be endorsing either, and since Marriage is a Christian institution that would immediately invalidate Gay "Marriages." What these people fail to understand is the left has spent the past 50 years corrupting churches just as much as everything else and the homosexuals would just find a corrupted Church to marry them. Hell, I'd half expect the current Pope to come out and marry a few personally just to stick it to the man.

But gay marriage is also legal already.

I just try to understand lolbert mind. "Goverment out of marriage because I wanna get gay married" You already can? "Goverment out of marriage because I don't wanna pay child support" go fuck yourself.

 

[namelesstacotruck]

But all states have no fault divorces already?

Thats the point. No fault divorce being wide spread has destroyed marriage as an institution. Letting fags get married was just a cherry on top. Marriage ending up with a man getting turbo fucked is the new normal. Every man knows a guy fucked by an ex wife. In California she gets alimony for life after 10 years.

Return marriage to a social/religious institution.

 

[George Lucas]

I am Ed Gallrein.

 

[namelesstacotruck]

You already can? "Goverment out of marriage because I don't wanna pay child support" go fuck yourself.

Child support happens regardless of marriage. The money the kid gets is calculated separately from the money the ex wife gets. The women actually has more parental rights and a better child support position being un married in most states. If the father doesnt legitimize they not only probably have to pay but have an uphill battle for any custody rights.

Its common for certain type of niggresses (and white trash women) to get knocked up every 3 years and collect child support from men as basically how they make official income. The whole baby daddys thing. Its every 3 years to reset the HUD voucher for basically free housing for apartments.

https://www.hud.gov/helping-americans/housing-choice-vouchers-family

 

[genericwhitemale]

Not that there aren't valid criticisms of Trump/MAGA, but it's very funny seeing AFers call MAGA a cult as if they aren't the definition of a cult.

 

[Buttigieg2020]

Meanwhile nine out of ten American Jews STRONGLY support Israel's right to exist. They know it's an ethno-nationalist state and support it for that reason alone, not for some vague religious promise. Here's a picture from 2020, different research. It's not insignificant. Even 40% of left wing Jews feel it's not only important but essential.

Fair point, but pre 2023, Israel’s right to exist was an extremely mainstream opinion across US demographics. The War in Gaza completely fucked Israel’s PR.
(Which is why we are even having this conversation related to a minor election in Kentucky.)

 

[Unredacted TND]

Fair point, but pre 2023, Israel’s right to exist was an extremely mainstream opinion across US demographics. The War in Gaza completely fucked Israel’s PR.

There is no timeline where Israel stops to exist.

Thats the point. No fault divorce being wide spread has destroyed marriage as an institution. Letting fags get married was just a cherry on top. Marriage ending up with a man getting turbo fucked is the new normal. Every man knows a guy fucked by an ex wife. In California she gets alimony for life after 10 years.

Return marriage to a social/religious institution.

This doesn't work at all in US where our taxes and insurance are tied to marital status.

Shooters sound eerily similar to a few users from TES and this thread.

 

[GameratePTSD]

Fair point, but pre 2023, Israel’s right to exist was an extremely mainstream opinion across US demographics. The War in Gaza completely fucked Israel’s PR.
(Which is why we are even having this conversation related to a minor election in Kentucky.)

I think the JFNA study was done in 2025 which is the one claiming 9 out of 10 Jews believe in Israel's right to exist while only slightly over a third of American Jews identify as Zionists, and believe the issue they're experiencing is they're not correctly marketing the term 'zionist'. It also claims connections to Israel among American Jews has increased since 2020 across all ages.

https://www.jta.org/2026/02/04/ideas/the-zionism-gap-what-data-really-shows-about-jews-israel-and-zionism-today

There is no timeline where Israel stops to exist.

lol

 

[Buttigieg2020]

There is no timeline where Israel stops to exist.

It stopped existing for like 2000 years, in this timeline

 

[namelesstacotruck]

This doesn't work at all in US where our taxes and insurance are tied to marital status

Head of Household gives same tax benefits as being married to the man or woman. Health insurance is fucked in general and isnt a reason for any social policy. Why does being gay married with a new guy pozz loading me every weekend as per gay culture let me extend my health insurance to someone but not to someone who lives in a household i support?

 

[Unredacted TND]

Please sir deport them.

 

[sneedem&feedem]

I am Ed Gallrein.

You just created a thousand Thomas Massies

 

[Betonhaus]

 

[WelperHelper99]

It stopped existing for like 2000 years, in this timeline

True. And only with enormous international funding did it retvrn. The conversation in the wider US is if that funding should continue. The answer is becoming closer to no. Isreal will likely still exist, but it's going to have to break bread with its neighbors and stop being an ass once Iran is dealt with

 

[Catch The Rainbow]

@Sammich can attest, he can't drop a quarter without being swarmed by jews

 

[MrAsianPie]

You just created a thousand Thomas Massies

Performative do-nothings? I think we already have enough of those.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Nobody remembers NXIVM, as an example.

that was a banger of a NY Post headline about ITS A BIRD ITS A PLANE ITS A SEX CULT

but by burning any political capital he may have had with trump and the party he lost any chance to push for those.

some caller was making this point on radio yesterday, even IF you like the theory of what he was up to, there's literally no way anybody is going to want to go along with ANY of his shit at this point

 

[Unredacted TND]

True. And only with enormous international funding did it retvrn. The conversation in the wider US is if that funding should continue. The answer is becoming closer to no. Isreal will likely still exist, but it's going to have to break bread with its neighbors and stop being an ass once Iran is dealt with

US gives Israel 3 billion dollars per year... US could cut aid tomorrow and nothing would change.

One thing nobody says is that Israel gets money from not just US, but Americans. Jewish Americans. Rich Jews give Israel much much more money than the goverment does. And it's not really something that will stop.

since Marriage is a Christian institution

This is a stupid argument. Marriage obviously existed before Christianity and exists in non-Christian nations now. You guys will declare cars a christian institution soon.

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@Sammich can attest, he can't drop a quarter without being swarmed by jews

This is who we are up against... Not sending their best.


This graph should worry you.

 

[MarvinTheParanoidAndroid]

Leftists have written about this fuming that certain alt-right social media accounts mix extremist views with cute puppies or whatever.

You mean to tell me that leftoids are actually angry about this?