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He lost a Trump-supporting district to a Trump-backed challenger in a closed primary, so you think that means he wouldn't do well nationally? If Democrats and libertarians could have voted, he might have won his election tonight.
The dems only vote blue and the libertarian voting power is tiny in the grand scheme of things. A lot of RINOS lost their seats to pro MAGA guys so Trump's platform still popular across America and you have Vance or Rubio to contend with who are going to carry the MAGA torch. Massie has nothing of substance to provide people.
 
I love Massie losing but step back and look at the difference between a Dem stronghold like NYC and a Republican stronghold like KY 4:

Dems endorse their extremists (see AOC/Mamdani) who talk extreme but moderate in office. Dems are able to effectively organize online through systems like the DSA to normalize these radical thoughts with many moderate young dems radicalizing (Calla Walsh being a prime example). The Democrat party itself is low on resources and while it initially resisted this, they seem to have given up. Status quo (Eric Adams/Cuomo) is dead.

Republicans seem to prefer the status quo with a no name winning solely off Trump endorsements vs an incumbent who went for the Podcast Right (Tucker/Owens/MTG) vote. What's interesting is that Massie clearly knew this wouldn't work in his district, hence his local ads pretending to be on Trump's side. This election was laying the foundations of his future media career. Regardless, it shows that the Podcast Right has a strong minority in Republican strongholds. Unfortunately, we cannot actually measure the power of the Podcast right due to Massie's faking of Trump endorsements very likely corrupting low information Republicans. The Podcast right is the strongest right wing movement online but at best, they cannot win a primary with everything stacked in their favor.

Dems are heading towards extremism, Republicans prefer Trump and the status quo.
Democrats have a tendency to integrate and absorb their radical groups for better and for worse. Republicans have in the past drove off radicals and political outsiders, Trump was part of the latter group at first but now the GOP orients itself entirely around him. Democrats as you pointed out will most likely move to more extremism, Republicans on the other hand will orbit around Trump until he is no longer a political force which means a power vacuum will appear in the near future once he is no longer in office.
 
You picked the one part of Trump’s crappy fiscal policy that was privately funded.
As a Non-White (Irishman) I much preferred when the Whites were in charge.

Nigger if the country goes belly up because of the debt it wont be because of some retarded ballroom.

It will be due to spending all our money on filthy foreigners and their rampant and flagrant fraud/theft of our resources.
You wont be coping when the Han people have you slaving at their rice fields. Better beg Netanyahu to bail you out for your allegiance.
 
I love Massie losing but step back and look at the difference between a Dem stronghold like NYC and a Republican stronghold like KY 4:

Dems endorse their extremists (see AOC/Mamdani) who talk extreme but moderate in office. Dems are able to effectively organize online through systems like the DSA to normalize these radical thoughts with many moderate young dems radicalizing (Calla Walsh being a prime example). The Democrat party itself is low on resources and while it initially resisted this, they seem to have given up. Status quo (Eric Adams/Cuomo) is dead.

Republicans seem to prefer the status quo with a no name winning solely off Trump endorsements vs an incumbent who went for the Podcast Right (Tucker/Owens/MTG) vote. What's interesting is that Massie clearly knew this wouldn't work in his district, hence his local ads pretending to be on Trump's side. This election was laying the foundations of his future media career. Regardless, it shows that the Podcast Right has a strong minority in Republican strongholds. Unfortunately, we cannot actually measure the power of the Podcast right due to Massie's faking of Trump endorsements very likely corrupting low information Republicans. The Podcast right is the strongest right wing movement online but at best, they cannot win a primary with everything stacked in their favor.

Dems are heading towards extremism, Republicans prefer Trump and the status quo.
So you're saying Republicans wish to conserve and Democrats wish to accelerate?
 
He lost a Trump-supporting district to a Trump-backed challenger in a closed primary, so you think that means he wouldn't do well nationally? If Democrats and libertarians could have voted, he might have won his election tonight.
If he tried to run nationally he would get obliterated as his main policies on immigration, border policy/ICE, and Trump are the same as the Democrats, he would be lucky to get 10% in any primary.
 
I love Massie losing but step back and look at the difference between a Dem stronghold like NYC and a Republican stronghold like KY 4:

Dems endorse their extremists (see AOC/Mamdani) who talk extreme but moderate in office. Dems are able to effectively organize online through systems like the DSA to normalize these radical thoughts with many moderate young dems radicalizing (Calla Walsh being a prime example). The Democrat party itself is low on resources and while it initially resisted this, they seem to have given up. Status quo (Eric Adams/Cuomo) is dead.

Republicans seem to prefer the status quo with a no name winning solely off Trump endorsements vs an incumbent who went for the Podcast Right (Tucker/Owens/MTG) vote. What's interesting is that Massie clearly knew this wouldn't work in his district, hence his local ads pretending to be on Trump's side. This election was laying the foundations of his future media career. Regardless, it shows that the Podcast Right has a strong minority in Republican strongholds. Unfortunately, we cannot actually measure the power of the Podcast right due to Massie's faking of Trump endorsements very likely corrupting low information Republicans. The Podcast right is the strongest right wing movement online but at best, they cannot win a primary with everything stacked in their favor.

Dems are heading towards extremism, Republicans prefer Trump and the status quo.
New York is not the USA. Better to cut it off and let it sink into the ocean.
 
If Democrats and libertarians could have voted, he might have won his election tonight.

The libertarians are too small to matter and if a Republican candidate needs Democrat votes to win, that says all that needs to be said about them. Massie was too much of an obstructionist faggot on too many issues that his base cared about and now he's paid for it. He could have still had his seat if he wasn't a complete retard about it and played ball on the important things.

The Podcast right is the strongest right wing movement online but at best, they cannot win a primary with everything stacked in their favor.

As soon as people posted poll crosstabs showing that the nearly even race had young voters heavily swinging to Massie, everyone should have realized it was over for him. Whatever anyone's opinions on older voters might be, no one can dispute that they get out and vote. The youth vote rarely comes through.
 
The worst part is there are actual arguments to be made about Israeli interests buying out this primary, which should be taken as a serious concern, but Massie knotted so much of his own noose the warning only falls deaf to most ears or is heard by the most brainraped jackasses on Xitter.
Except when Massie accepts his own kike money AND muslim bucks the idea of the primary being bought out by only one side falls flat. Do these people ever complain about pharmaceutical lobbying or any other lobbying aside from AIPAC? Not to say that you have to care about exclusively one thing, but the idea that Israel is the only problem in America that you must care about or else you're goycattle is patently absurd
 
Turned Baris back on, Barnes sounds like he's trying to balance how he can shuffle money around to get out of town for a week and hide, and half the chat is feeling betrayed by Baris' shitty polling.

Now Barnes is trying to spin off into saying Iran's going to unleash devastating attacks on the world's economy when the world is already moving on, UAE and Saudis are already building new pipelines to the other side of their nations to avoid Hormuz. It's pathetic, they want to blackpill, but the Sun God won't let them!
I love that hate-watching Barnes and Baris is out in the open.
 
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