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It's well known that the Jews have been subverting the Christians for quite some time, otherwise there wouldn't be all of this Zionist nonsense about supporting Israel despite their own holy book saying that Jesus Christ is in hell in a vat of boiling shit
The man obsessed with pumping his dick and writing gay erotica is lecturing me about the Jews insulting Jesus because one apocryphal story in the Talmud mentioned someone who wasn't alive when Jesus was born.
 
Agreed. The ways Catholics and Jews have collaborated to undermine America really deserves more attention. Catholicism has recently been skating by on being "based and trad," but the reality is the history of Catholicism in America is at best complicated, with Catholics often prioritizing their allegiance with Rome and global Catholicism over and against their loyalty to their fellow Americans. The Hart-Celler act is one such example. Catholic Charities facilitating illegal migration is another example.

I say complicated because of course there are exceptions. Haym Solomon was a patriot, firmly in the category of Jews who understood they could not possibly get a better deal than a white nation with a strict separation between church and state, and gave everything he had to the cause. Charles Carroll was likewise a patriot, understanding that such a nation would be able to rise above the endless, horrific bloodshed characterizing the Wars of Religion in Europe.

Unfortunately, while Protestant international religious loyalties dissolve in the intrinsic locality of Protestant churches, Jews and Catholics have been proven have a much stronger internationality to their faiths. Jews have their loyalty to the Promised Land, and Catholics in have their fealty to the head of a foreign state. Hart-Celler combines the worst of both.
I think what a lot of the people who assume (based on what Catholic aesthetics they've seen online, or what they watch in media perhaps) that Catholicism in the US is this mega-based & trad force that people should be happy to retvrn to forget/don't know about, and what the likes of Nick Fuentes definitely don't know or do know but want to hide, is that American Catholics were historically staunchly liberal-aligned and Democratic voters until pretty recently. From Irish political machines like Tammany Hall to Greatest Generation types spiritually buckbroken by the world wars like the aforementioned Hart, American Catholics were overwhelmingly Democratic-inclined & voted for or were politicians in the (D) camp. Most of the Catholic 'white ethnic' blocs everyone knows about like Irish, Italians Poles? Yep, solid (D) voters for the longest time.

Ironically for how much shit the boomer gen catches for being hedonistic hippies that never quite grew up, Catholic boomers were more conservative than their forefathers, and the culture wars of the 1960s-70s (school prayer, the Pill, abortion, faggotry, etc.) were where American Catholics started breaking away from liberal orthodoxy & the Democratic Party. Samuel Alito & Clarence Thomas (especially unusual - only something like 6% of blacks are Catholic) are both Catholic boomers, for example. So's Mel Gibson, Marty O'Donnell, and so on. The Vitale in Engel v. Vitale who tried to defend school prayer against kikes & atheists? A Catholic Italian named William J. Vitale, further backed by the Catholic clergy (made all the more ironic by how Catholics were against earlier iterations of school prayer b/c they viewed such as attempts to impose Protestantism on Catholic students with the KJV & a distinctly Protestant lean to the prayers, but by the 1960s, both faithful Catholics & Protestants could get behind nonsectarian prayers like the one Vitale stood for). It took until 1972 for a Republican candidate to get the majority of Catholic votes (Richard Nixon, he got 52% of the Catholic vote that year).

Trump himself actually increased his share of the Catholic vote, from 50% in 2020 to 54% in 2024; while yes he increased his share of the Hispanic vote and that obviously played a role in boosting his share of the Catholic vote, overall he was still carried more-so by white Catholics rather than Hispanic ones (who still voted for Harris by a slim majority), IIRC it was something like 61% of white Catholics vs. only 48% of the brown Catholics who voted for him last time. It will be interesting to see what form Catholicism takes on the conservative side of American politics, where it's still pretty new in the grand scheme of things and where I don't believe a truly, centrally American Catholic strand of conservative thought has crystallized yet.

What I do believe, however, is that it's going to be very different from integralism & other European Catholic-centric ideologies; no matter how the gay catboi or Internet sede demographics try to hype the latter up as based, such ideologies are fundamentally alien to & can't mesh with American politics. Not in their entirety - you can see the similarity between, let's say, Maurras's concept of the pays réel vs. pays légal and the modern American struggle vs. the deep state - but a lot more about them, like the monarchism or national syndicalism, makes no sense in an American framework. I look forward to seeing what the younger generations of American Catholics on the right will build on the foundations left to them, not by men like Maurras or Franco, but by the likes of Alito, Thomas, Rubio, Vance, etc. over time.
 
The man obsessed with pumping his dick and writing gay erotica is lecturing me about the Jews insulting Jesus because one apocryphal story in the Talmud mentioned someone who wasn't alive when Jesus was born.
If that's so it's rather curious about how this Jesus-Christ-Who-Is-Not-Jesus-Christ never has his crime mentioned yet it apparently being bad enough to make the Jews say he's eternally boiling in shit
You'd think that would be the one thing they write down
 
The best explanation I've heard for millennials is that they realized they would never be as successful as their parents, so they instead sought to be more moral/informed, asserting that success is bad and oppressive.
As a millennial, the average millennial is equally as narcissistic, destructive, and spiteful as some of the most saturnian, child-devouring boomers. The difference is, boomers ruin everything for other generations within their lifetime. Millennials seek to permanently ruin everything for ALL future generations as "punishment" for the boomers fucking them up, instead of seeking to actually fix anything, convincing themselves it's "justice".
 
If that's so it's rather curious about how this Jesus-Christ-Who-Is-Not-Jesus-Christ never has his crime mentioned yet it apparently being bad enough to make the Jews say he's eternally boiling in shit
You'd think that would be the one thing they write down
He has his crime stated clearly. Regardless, you're blaming secular people for a text that 99 percent of them never read.
 
The best explanation I've heard for millennials is that they realized they would never be as successful as their parents, so they instead sought to be more moral/informed, asserting that success is bad and oppressive.
Them, and a good chunk of X, got one-shotted by Bush and are forever Democrats after the insanity of his 8 years. The Iraq War really threw the country for a loop and Republicans were a the helm of a massive blunder and pain point that made Americans distrust the government.

Pilling on was the constant media hysteria and smug libshits throughout that period. Jon Stewart is the most obvious icon of that time frame, being the funny man that sold an entire generation on not only the news being fake Republican propaganda, but also that all Republicans were dumbfuck southerners. He was the voice of reason amongst a sea of tards. Of course, he was just the biggest figure, you also had all his friends which went on to lead their own "Republicans are so stupid" shows, Sasha Barrett Cohen, Jib Jab, The Simpsons, SNL, etc..

When Obama happened, we saw the media do a complete 180 from president is stupid, we are all going to die, to now Obama is cool and awesome, black Jesus has come. The complete shift really threw things further for a loop, only made worse once Orange Man came and reset the cycle x10.

When you speak to a lot of modern libs, you can really tell the damage of shit like The Daily Show. A lot of them have that Jon Stewart need to epically own the conservitards, even without being fully aware. The media glazing Obama just adds to their perpetual nightmare as we went from paradise to apocalypse with no explanation as to why other than stupid racist, sexist Republicans who don't know what is good for them.
 
He has his crime stated clearly. Regardless, you're blaming secular people for a text that 99 percent of them never read.
If that was true, shouldn't you be mentioning what the crime was? Considering how the guy is allegedly not the same person as an important historical figure for the real religion, at the bare minimum mentioning what his actual crime is should be warranted otherwise it sounds like you're telling a bald faced lie with no evidence to back it up.
 
If that was true, shouldn't you be mentioning what the crime was? Considering how the guy is allegedly not the same person as an important historical figure for the real religion, at the bare minimum mentioning what his actual crime is should be warranted otherwise it sounds like you're telling a bald faced lie with no evidence to back it up.
It's publicly available. I'm not feeding you everything. You're also avoiding that most of the people you're seething about never touched this book.
 
It's publicly available. I'm not feeding you everything. You're also avoiding that most of the people you're seething about never touched this book.
I’ll help you out by mentioning the crimes were apostasy and sorcery. A man named Jesus, from Nazareth, who committed apostasy against Judaism. Who could that possibly be? :thinking:
 
I’ll help you out by mentioning the crimes were apostasy and sorcery. A man named Jesus, from Nazareth, who committed apostasy against Judaism. Who could that possibly be? :thinking:
Gee, that sounds a lot like the crime you would accuse someone of if they went "hey if we stop being assholes to everyone maybe they won't attack us all the time" and the very notion offended you.
 
Hart Celler's origin was in (Catholic) JFK's 1960 campaign.
I've tried to tell people for 10 years that JFK was a scumbag faggot and he was all for this browning of the US. They try to claim Israel killed him over some bullshit, and I tell them i'm glad they did, he was a scumbag degenerate fuck, and he got the easy way out. Head blown SMOOVE off, brains all over jackie's dress. Fuck that entire family, from bootlegging joe giving rosemary a lobotomy for being a little frisky with men, to robert and john and even ted being abusive assholes.
 
I’ll help you out by mentioning the crimes were apostasy and sorcery. A man named Jesus, from Nazareth, who committed apostasy against Judaism. Who could that possibly be? :thinking:
Refer to the other times I discussed this:


Sorcery wasn't one of the crimes, that was Bilaam.
 
Them, and a good chunk of X, got one-shotted by Bush and are forever Democrats after the insanity of his 8 years. The Iraq War really threw the country for a loop and Republicans were a the helm of a massive blunder and pain point that made Americans distrust the government.

And what alot of conservatives refused to do was take ownership of the GWOT. How we were tricked by 9 11 and all the people who pushed it shoulda been punished.

The response to Obama was just wrong they fucking whined day and night about his suit. About his salute while holding a coffee cup. Screamed he needed to use his authority to fix the boarder while suing that he was misusing his authority.

They should ve focused on issues like the real estate bubble and other populist issues and just not screamed about the dude.

Then watching the left melt down on trump after the right did the same shit was fucking surreal
 
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