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Even prior to it getting featured and it was merely in PG a lot of people were defending him.
Which I find perplexing because all he’s doing is making white people look like a bunch of assholes. He’s not going out and offering solutions to black people on how to fix the issues in their community, he’s just provoking them to look cool and edgy. Which all that will do is give them a bad impression of white people. And then a bunch of retards will defend him even if he’s a pest because he’s white and says nigger so that makes it right apparently.
 
Which I find perplexing because all he’s doing is making white people look like a bunch of assholes. He’s not going out and offering solutions to black people on how to fix the issues in their community, he’s just provoking them to look cool and edgy. Which all that will do is give them a bad impression of white people. And then a bunch of retards will defend him even if he’s a pest because he’s white and says nigger so that makes it right apparently.
There was far more division when those two lower class white ladies said the nigger word and their past was used against them. Yet when a clear grifter does the same, I'm supposed to overlook his past and everything else?

Yeah this is why I cling to the Lord and not racial nationalism.
 
"B-b-but he said the nigger word to niggers. That means he's clearly based and not at all a grifter trying to garner attention no matter if it's good or bad, and we need to band together around him because whites need to stick together, despite him not doing anything positive for other whites" -a lot of people in that thread for some reason
dude shames the church with his antics. i only have that one twitter post but if true its a shame that parish fell apart because of him. the silver lining is that his baptism was halted once his antics were known... i hope
 
I don't know what's wrong with me, does anyone else have any perspective on this?
I have a few things to consider:

1. It is God who brings you to Him, you are a helper, but ultimately it is God who brings change. I kind of came to this conclusion in my Christian Apologist phase. I learned and studied the Bible and many different religions and schools of thought in order to construct arguments, which is all well and good and sharpens our minds and strengthens our positions, but our relationship with God is a personal one; one where only we ourselves can make the decision to go to him. The Parable of the Sower (Matthew 13:1-23) is an example of this, that the seeds will grow in good soil, and not in poor soil, and not all the seeds will grow strong.

Using an analogy, I believe we can till the soil, we can make it deep and remove the rocks and weeds. But it was God the Father who planted the seed of Faith, the Holy Spirit who waters it, and the Son who shines upon it to grow the seed. Through our Sin and Stubbornness, we block the light of the Lord. So we must stand aside and let the Son shine on our seed so that it grows and bears fruit.

In simpler terms, we can help others come to God but they must choose for themselves, and not all of them will. "For many are invited, but few are chosen." (Matthew 22:14)

2. You can be a witness to them without speaking. Simply being a light in their life will help them greatly. Help them and do good, and they will see your light (Matthew 5:14-16).

3. Help them, but do not be dragged down to their level. It is one thing to be with and help people, Christ Himself ate and spoke with tax collectors and prostitutes, but he did not partake in the things they did, nor did he compromise Himself and sin. Do not deny your faith (Luke 9:23-26), you must uphold God's laws (Romans 6:15-23), and of all the things you do, do them for the Lord (Colossians 3:23-25).

I understand how you feel, and trying to save your friends is an honorable feeling. At this stage in my Christian life, one of the things I truly want is to see as many of my friends and family at the end of all things, and simply shake their hands as I welcome them and they welcome me. Through my own weakness, I feel like I have not done enough to tell them of the dangers they face, and it brings me a lot of guilt. But even Christ, the greatest of all who walked the Earth, said "He who has ears to hear, let them hear" numerous times, but very few listened and the people still crucified Him.

Just try to do what God wants and be a light in their lives, but don't let their Sin and Hatred smother you. If it becomes too much, simply shake the dust off and move on (Matthew 10:13-15).


And on this quote:
Sometimes it seems easier to evangelize to strangers rather than people you're close with.
Christ thought the same thing (Luke 4:14-30).
 
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"B-b-but he said the nigger word to niggers. That means he's clearly based and not at all a grifter trying to garner attention no matter if it's good or bad, and we need to band together around him because whites need to stick together, despite him not doing anything positive for other whites" -a lot of people in that thread for some reason
Because niggers do it and it works for their political aims as a racial group.

The only actual group of people to ever truly attempt to put away "racism" for the common good was the White man, and unfortunately for all of us, that has become apparent such that you are not going to see this kind of behavior become less common from any racial group. As time goes on you're probably going to see it get a lot, lot worse. I haven't checked in on the Karmelo Anthony thread but if that kid gets a black jury, chances are good you're going to see a murderer walk for no reason other than being a nigger.



There's plenty more articles about such incidents in the past few years alone. You also have incidents like what happened with Shiloh Hendrix.

If the people in this thread wish to pretend the entirety of human history prior to the jew-lead 1960's Civil Rights Era's values in the U.S., which ended up infecting the entire rest of the western world shortly after, is a pinnacle of the Christian faith you're going to be sorely disappointed in the coming century.

I do find it funny that you folks like to call natural ingroup preference idolatrous while worshipping the objectively false god of secular humanism.
 
So because blacks have an ingroup preference, we have to accept grifters who wouldnt have the decency to piss on us if we were on fire?
I didn't say that.
There's plenty of threads on white RW grifters on the Farms. He's on that same path as the former ones.
Cool, that's irrelevant to what I said. I'm not being condescending when I say this, try re-reading it a few times. Issues like this can cause people's biases to flare up and not actually read the disagreeable content in full that they're engaging with. Similar stuff happens when discussing various kinds of capitalism versus various kinds of socialism, some people just read 'socialism' or 'capitalism' and tune out.

Edit: To put a finer point on the concept:
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Because niggers do it and it works for their political aims as a racial group.
Does it really work for black people as a whole or does it only work for a few racial pimps like Al Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, etc. while at the same time making actual black people that try to lead normal lives like you or I look worse? What are there political aims? I know for the race pimps I mentioned and the other ones it's purely to enrich themselves, just look at the BLM leadership.
I've talked with black coworkers before when a racial news item comes up who feel exhausted because other black people feel like they need to represent their larger community and get offended when they say "no that's a retard that doesn't represent me or my family because they're also black".
The only actual group of people to ever truly attempt to put away "racism" for the common good was the White man,
I know news articles capitalizing "Black" is cringe but you capitalizing "White" is also cringe neoreactionary nigger behavior.
Karmelo Anthony thread but if that kid gets a black jury, chances are good you're going to see a murderer walk for no reason other than being a nigger.
What indication is there that it would be an all-black jury?
If the people in this thread wish to pretend the entirety of human history prior to the jew-lead 1960's Civil Rights Era's values in the U.S., which ended up infecting the entire rest of the western world shortly after, is a pinnacle of the Christian faith you're going to be sorely disappointed in the coming century.
This sentence makes no fucking sense. Are you saying that people ITT are saying that prior to the 1960s was the pinnacle of the Christian faith? What the fuck does that mean? Can you be more specific with a time or a place or did you just butcher the sentence because you're riled up about the heckin' niggos?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but what I think you're trying to say, is that the civil rights era that came about in the 1950s/1960s was the pinnacle of the Christian faith because of MLK who was a minister? Can you point to any specific posts that say that? Again I could be wrong because this sentence makes no fucking sense at all grammatically but that's what I think you're trying to say. I think MLK was a great man who lived the Christian faith the best he could and partly because of that, the FBI killed him. Interesting how they kill the guy preaching about peace and coming together gets killed but the NOI backed Malcolm X didn't until he softened his racial positions but that's beyond the scope of what I think you're trying to say.
I do find it funny that you folks like to call natural ingroup preference idolatrous while worshipping the objectively false god of secular humanism.
"Natural" ingroup preferences are a bit more fluid than you might think. If we were living in 1100s AD France for example, the main ingroup would be Christianity, not racial. Any travelers from the eastern church in Mongolia would be welcomed because they're Christian. Now people would still comment about how they look funny but they would be treated in a more positive way than Jews or Muslims. And secular humanism was born from Christian humanism, much like how the bulk of post-Greco Roman western philosophy was. You would know these things if you' weren't terminally online addicted to outrage like a heroin addict is addicted to their needles.
Normally I don't like being a smug cunt but you're not on A&Nigger home turf and you're being dickhead who thinks you know more than you actually do so I don't mind being a bit pretentious in that case. :smug:
I didn't say that.
I call bullshit. You're saying how the last 1000+ years of western/Christian philosophy that's lead up to where we are now doesn't work because of incendiary news incidents. What you're implying with your previous post which I went over with a fine-toothed comb because you invited people to is that because in your mind, because the niggers are "winning" or you think they will in this upcoming century/the upcoming decades that we have to throw that all away and become tribal. I, and I'd imagine my fellows brothers in Christ ITT although I can't speak for them disagree and think that's retarded.

I think you are a nigger. A neoreactionary nigger who's pissed off and doesn't want to actually do anything positive in your own life except tear things down. I wonder who that reminds me of? :thinking:

Cool, that's irrelevant to what I said. I'm not being condescending when I say this, try re-reading it a few times
I did. Your sentence structure is all fucked and your shit's retarded. Luckily for you, I was able to work through your mangled post and I think I figured out what you were trying to say for you. You're welcome. :)
ssues like this can cause people's biases to flare up and not actually read the disagreeable content in full that they're engaging with.
The fucking irony here.
Similar stuff happens when discussing various kinds of capitalism versus various kinds of socialism, some people just read 'socialism' or 'capitalism' and tune out.
That definitely happens, but do you think you're above that too?
 
You're saying how the last 1000+ years of western/Christian philosophy that's lead up to where we are now doesn't work because of incendiary news incidents.
That you'd equate the civil rights era with "1000+ years of western/Christian philosophy" is all that really needs to be pointed out here to demonstrate why I'm not reading the rest of your drivel. If you're going to be a raging demagogue who isn't going to listen, I'm not going to respect you either.

You have no idea why you believe what you do regarding race; it's not a coincidence that shit started in earnest post WW2.

The rest of your whining will be relegated to the dustbin as my point is proven in real-time to your chagrin, that point being, if you're going to insist that racial colorblindness that has only existed in the liberal post-WW2 order is an inherent aspect of Christianity despite the historical evidence otherwise, as things regress to the mean you're eventually going to find yourself in a crisis of faith. A serious one.

Moreover, if you and others are going to continue to deny this specifically where Whites are concerned, you can only expect further dismissal of your unrealistic and ahistorical perspective on Christianity and Western values to result in further alienation of the church from the masses.

If you had actually read my post, by the way, you'd have noticed this portion of my opening sentence:
The only actual group of people to ever truly attempt to put away "racism" for the common good was the White man, and unfortunately for all of us
which is meant fully.

I'm not the cartoon caricature you wrote your hilariously overwrought faggot response to, in other words.

I explained, to someone who said they didn't understand, why what they said they didn't understand, was happening. Along with an extra helping of explaining that this nu-Christian concept of tabula rasa is ahistorical, and the evidence that we're regressing to the mean is present when you see Whites increasingly becoming racially aware and racially politically active.

Your response was apparently, to write a homosexual wall of text defending the crowning achievement of kikes that hate you (and I am not assuming you're White when I say that, only Christian), in American culture.

I personally don't understand that.

Edit: And to add since I apparently have to explain this, the reason you're having shitty race grifters praised by such Whites (or anyone, really) is because they're filling in for a niche that has demand, which is another facet of this concept. If you want good race relations, especially good race relations in Christ which I believe is the only way you could ever have a long-term multiracial society, you are going to have to come to terms with the realities of race and politics, as well as race and religion.

I can't believe I have to beat people over the head with this but if you don't want race relations to turn into nigger-tier felon worship you need men of faith and God to stand in as community leaders rather than hucksters. That's what happened to help destroy the burgeoning black community in America prior to their fall into full-blown judaized niggerfication of their culture, an utter absence of such people in favor of cultural icons that idolize felonious activity.
 
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That you'd equate the civil rights era with "1000+ years of western/Christian philosophy" is all that really needs to be pointed out here to demonstrate why I'm not reading the rest of your drivel. If you're going to be a raging demagogue who isn't going to listen, I'm not going to respect you either.
What was the civil rights movement in your mind? You're intentionally playing semantics games where "X does not equal X but actually equals Y". So what was the civil rights movement? Was it a Jewish conspiracy? How did the conspiracy come about? I can point you towards examples of evangelicals leading the charge in the abolitionist movement in the mid-1800s. Those evangelicals would have had an understanding of both the Bible and western humanist philosophies that came from Europe. Obviously history isn't a direct thruline, but people pick up pieces they like different ideas and spread them in their own way. I don't see why this is a difficult concept to understand but I'm open to hearing about how the Elders of Zion approved the civil rights movement with a nice big Star of David rubberstamp.
I'm not reading the rest of your drivel
Waaahh someone was mean to me on a fruit forum mommy!!!
If you're going to be a raging demagogue who isn't going to listen, I'm not going to respect you either.
I'm open to new ideas and new ways of thinking. I have certain foundational principals I believe in but otherwise I'm open to looking at things from a variety of angles. Your angle however, I don't find persuasive so far. I'm sorry that calling you a nigger has stunlocked you into being unable to read. You should get that checked out by a doctor! (Oh but right all doctors are Jews and they'll pull nanomachines in your brain to believe that covid didn't come from a lab or something. Dammit!)
You have no idea why you believe what you do regarding race; it's not a coincidence that shit started in earnest post WW2.
What "shit". I just mentioned the abolitionist movements (a lot of which were led by white evangelicals) in the mid-1800s. Do you think these were niche groups of fringe lunatics before the late 1940s? Why did it start "in earnest" post-WW2?
And my opinions on race are pretty simple. I think in general different races have evolved based on environment, but on an individual level I try not to treat anyone differently than I am. If someone is exiting a store, I hold the door open for them doesn't matter if they're a man, woman, asian, black whatever. I'm still human and I still get pissed off at people of course, but in general that's how I feel.
The rest of your whining will be relegated to the dustbin as my point is proven in real-time to your chagrin
Oh man I can't wait. If I cashed this take in at Vegas I wonder which I would get more money on? This or endtimes preachers saying the world is going to end in 5 years? That's also a convenient way of saying "I consneed your point because I have no way to refute it because I'm speaking entirely from emotion".
f you're going to insist that racial colorblindness that has only existed in the liberal post-WW2 order is an inherent aspect of Christianity despite the historical evidence otherwise, as things regress to the mean you're eventually going to find yourself in a crisis of faith. A serious one.
I think racial colorblindness is retarded. It's okay to acknowledge differences between races. I think liberal intelligentsia making a big overcorrection in saying that it does make you racist to acknowledge differences is assbackwards if it makes them uncomfortable. Why would that give me a crisis of faith? My faith is in Christ who said that his kingdom is not of this world. So why would worldly things that don't give me a crisis of faith suddenly give me one?
Moreover, if you and others are going to continue to deny this specifically where whites are concerned, you can only expect further dismissal of your unrealistic and ahistorical perspective on Christianity and Western values to result in further alienation of the church from the masses.
I never made a denial of racial differences. Again, my apologies for calling you a nigger and that stunlocking you into being unable to read. But if you quit acting like a nigger maybe this wouldn't be such a problem. I think your idea of racial tribalism and bringing everyone down to a nigger mindset is retarded and unrealistic. First of all, who gets considered as "white"? Is it all ethnic Europeans? Do Italians get included? What about the Irish? Going back to my point being "ahistorical" if you actually knew history, you would know the Irish, and Catholic Europeans were seen as white niggers when immigrating to America.

And as far as alienating masses from The Church (I'll assume you mean Christendom as a whole and not any specific denomination), I personally don't feel like it's my place to evangelize. I think the truth of Jesus's ministry is self-evident and is ready for anyone to accept it whenever they feel like they're ready to answer the call. I know that's not how everyone else feels who are regulars ITT, but that's what's fun about it, it's fun going over theological differences and gaining insight from different perspectives.
which is meant fully.
I read your post, like I said multiple times in fact. But you conveniently swept my points into the "dustbin" that directly make you look retarded. Which is pretty bishmade and pussy-like for a warrior of da huwyte race.
I'm not the cartoon caricature you wrote your hilariously overwrought faggot response to, in other words.
I'm glad you thought it was funny! I had fun writing it. :) But I never said you were a cartoon caricature and wasn't trying to dehumanize you. You are a human being like I am, and you have my respect insofar as that goes. That doesn't mean I'm not going to call your points and your takes retarded if I think they're retarded. Can you not handle that? Are your opinions so tied to your identity that me thinking your opinions are retarded is an insult to your humanity? That's pretty rough buddy.
I explained, to someone who said they didn't understand, why what they said they didn't understand, was happening. Along with an extra helping of explaining that this nu-Christian concept of tabula rasa is ahistorical, and the evidence that we're regressing to the mean is present when you see Whites increasingly becoming racially aware and racially politically active.
I actually didn't know what "tabula rasa" meant, but after doing quick googling, I think that's retarded and that's not my opinion. Obviously we're not "blank slates". We are products of our environment, who raised us, what time and place we're living in. Ignoring that is being insanely obtuse and I don't think anyone is making that point but I guess it's easier for you to shadowbox a strawman than to actually engage with what people are saying. Sad!
Your response was apparently, to write a homosexual wall of text defending the crowning achievement of kikes that hate you (and I am not assuming you're White when I say that, only Christian), in American culture.
Nope, the point of my post was answering the bell to your challenge to reread your post multiple times. I did that, and refuted it line-by-line like you asked. Apparently that means I'm writing "walls of text" that you can ignore and throw into the dustbin because you're unwilling to engage in good faith.
I personally don't understand that.
Reading do be hard like dat sometiems mang when you been stunlocked by being called a nigger. 🙏
 
Because niggers do it and it works for their political aims as a racial group
I'm sorry the Stormer got deplatformed by Cloudflare, I'm sure you can find other places to spread Socialist Rhetoric, rather than here.
Yeah this is why I cling to the Lord and not racial nationalism.
"Do not swerve to the right or to the left; turn your foot away from evil." Proverbs 4:27
 
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There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. Paul must have been inspired by Osiris when he wrote this, I guess...

Is it really that hard of a pattern to notice that overwhelming majority of people will be negative stereotypes of whatever group they're a part of, and those identities all being actual false idols people will always worship instead of embracing their identity in Christ?

I don't even know what to respond with to the rest, it's truly one of the most empty and vain posts I've ever read if I'm being honest. All that can be answered by realizing the most basic truth revealed to us from God, which is the pattern I have described above. Oh no, a sinful human is sinning, according to his chosen false identity that comes in patterns. Totally unique to black people. All the other people are the saints with no cultural aggressive patterns and false identities they ruin themselves through.
 
I'll never get over people defending a position that did not exist prior to such acts as frogmarching White and black kids alike to force them to go to school together as a pillar of Christian identity, as if it makes any more sense than worshipping the modern state of Israel as the realization of God's people (dispensationalism).

You really don't have an argument that's going to overcome the utter absence of this nonsense in Christian societies prior to the 1960's. Especially the fact that all relevant parts of the philosophy that composes this worldview comes from completely secular, if not outright hostile-to-deism academia from the Victorian era. Or the intention of the, notably anti-Christian, U.S.S.R. to use "racism" as a manufactured wedge-issue for Whites in the U.S. in the latter half of the interwar period of the early 1900's.

Not that I expect people here to know the origins of this shit but it's sad to see what amounts to "We Wuz (not) Racists n Shieet".
 
gnostic esoteric demon from sixseven'th dimension also known as "SK1B1DEE-67"
I'll give it to the Gnostic fella from before, I think he does have the love of God in his heart. He just believes complete nonsense. His rant would make an excellent fantasy novel with the names filed off and replaced.
 
I'll never get over people defending a position that did not exist prior to such acts as frogmarching White and black kids alike to force them to go to school together as a pillar of Christian identity, as if it makes any more sense than worshipping the modern state of Israel as the realization of God's people (dispensationalism).
If you actually read through this thread, or even easier, go to the searchbar and type "dispensationalism" into this thread you would realize nobody here is in favor of dispensationalism. We all think it's wacky, heretical, and coopting the faith in in service of politics. But you don't have any interest in listening to what we have to say. You're like a shitspigot that can't be turned off, just more and more crap comes out of your mouth. And you think you're smarter than you actually are, or you assume because I'm guessing you assume we're all BluSky liberals for some reason that we don't know what we're talking about when it comes to our faith... even though there's 300+ pages of us doing exactly that.

But I'll take you no longer directly replying to anyone as you conceding you want to continue being shitspigot, and leave it at that.

dni if:
- gnostic esoteric demon from sixseven'th dimension also known as "SK1B1DEE-67"
- negroid lycra god
- satan
- antichrist
- if u have at least 0,000000000001% of nephilim blood in you
- whatever these late two entities we had in this thread are
I don't mind interacting with interlocuters. It's like exercising your faith + knowledge similar to how you would a muscle group at the gym. Chewing gum for the mind, things like that. At least with the last guy who was some flavor of mythicist, he would at least agree to a foundation that we could have a debate about. Our white nigger friend is flailing at the wind, claiming people ITT things we aren't, or that we as theology nerds don't understand theology or the history of Christianity/Christian + western philosophy? Very bizarre stuff.
 
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