💰 Grifter Ethan Klein / h3h3Productions / "pedo_troll" - Opportunistic, two-faced e-celeb sperg with a penchant for hypocrisy and an Oedipus complex; sold out to Susan Wojcicki, the incompetent CEO of YouTube

Who would win in a fight?

  • Ethan Klein

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i really want the Russian chick to sue Ethan as the ultimate irony

the guy the internet says is based and awesome
 
You say this. If Hasan sued Ethan for defamation, and one of his terms was Ethan saying "Israel doesn't have a right to exist, free Palestine!", would you adopt an attitude of "I don't support Hasan, but seeing Ethan humiliated is funny, so I'll laugh along at this and once it's over it's back to business as usual"?
Why the fuck wouldn't I? It's not as funny as the alternative but I'd have to settle for it. Are you people literally incapable of understanding you can hate two people at the same time while hating one more?
 
Someone needs to make a super edit of Ethan's health decline over the years, he is literally falling apart at the seams. Dude will end up looking like Palpatine in less than 10 years, if he doesn't croak beforehand.
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It's because he thought Hasan was cool and his friend. Therefore Hasan, iDubbz etc. get all his ire as they "betrayed" him.
No offense to Null but this explains why Ralph, Rekieta, Dick Masterson and TheQuartering all get so much attention on the farms. They were all people that Null interracted with and then for whatever retarded reason they turned on him and as such they get all this attention as a result.
 
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Someone needs to make a super edit of Ethan's health decline over the years, he is literally falling apart at the seams. Dude will end up looking like Palpatine in less than 10 years, if he doesn't croak beforehand.
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It's the Ashkenazi inbred genes. Makes them look like sewer creatures, but somehow they live 100 years. That's also why they just keep finding more and more Holocaust survivors.
 
No offense to Null but this explains why Ralph, Rekieta, Dick Masterson and TheQuartering all get so much attention on the farms. They were all people that Null interracted with and then for whatever retarded reason they turned on him and as such they get all this attention as a result.
Quarterpounder arguably never turned on Josh. All of the cows you've listed built very impressive internet careers before choosing to self-immolate in a spectacular fashion. There's no way in hell they wouldn't have gotten massive threads, even if they never interacted with cheese boy.
 
Suing the Jomhas for something Destiny did(but not Destiny) is so retarded even by Ethan’s standards that I have to wonder if Ethan got outjewed and Tiny has some Epstein level dirt on him
He actually lets Dan Saltman control him. Dan is such a spectacular failure, but Ethan is genuinely retarded and the only thing you have to do to placate him is compliment him. Even the DGGers know Dan is a professional bullshitter, but Ethan thinks they are in some chosen people brotherhood and that Dan has his back. The imp knows every last thing Ethan has ever said to Dan, and he is terrified. Dan and Ethan probably have logs full of "nigger" this and "goyim" that that would really hurt the feelings of his fat woman fanbase.

Speaking of fat and nigger, any info on this guy? All I know is he is a chat mod named Avery and he thinks strippers flirting with him actually like him?

Also wondering about the new ugly Jewish girl, Tamara.
 

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Suing the Jomhas for something Destiny did(but not Destiny) is so retarded even by Ethan’s standards that I have to wonder if Ethan got outjewed and Tiny has some Epstein level dirt on him
Its almost like the same words in different contexts have different weight. If George Clooney says, "Trump probably fucked Ivanka when she was a kid" then no one will take it seriously. If Marla Maples retweets it then it would get attention from major media from around the world.

But another factor which h3 explicitly stated, iDubbbz specifically moved away from America because he hates it so much to Canada which doesn't have free speech protections.
 
what null does is exemplary fair use for the purposes of criticism and parody. what the whore trinity and the jannies did is copy h3s content in its entirety, add absolutely nothing to it, and openly and publicly admit their intention was to deprive h3 of revenue. thats just suicide.
you can say copyright is fucking gay and id agree with you, but i cant stress how fucking stupid it is to piss off a known litigious heeb faggot and then come out in public and shout "HEY IF YOU SUE ME RIGHT NOW FOR THIS THING I JUST DID YOU WILL WIN!"
they fucked around and theyre about to find out. complaining about how much of a fag h3 is for launching this lawsuit is like complaining about how nasty tapeworms are for living in human shit, its just what they do, dont let them do it to you.
You're missing the point.
  • The whore trinity supposedly consists of Denims, Frogan and Kaceytron. Only one of them is a whore, the OnlyFans prostitute Denims. Kaceytron is a boring larper and Frogan is a fat, modestly-dressed Hijabi Muslim larper (she's agnostic atheist)
    • Frogan: Carl Benjamin's case proved clipping is transformative. I don't know what she did but I would assume there are grounds to argue fair use.
    • Kaceytron: Same as above
    • Denims: The video was how long? She commented over it and went on for 4 hours. What she did was 10000% unabashedly transformative. You can dislike this vapid OnlyFans prostitute and what she stands for, however, it was 100% fair use.
  • Here's how they're being sued:
    • As far as I know, none of it was on the basis of fair use. Rather, it was "reproduction of something as a whole". It's similar to how say, FIFA can take down a livestreamed niggerball event, even if a host was commenting on the game.
  • Here's why this opens a can of worms:
    • If H33b gets his way, then in the future, any wealthy freak can silence critic communities using the same method of entrapment.
    • Jeremy Hambly can register one of his videos with whatever copyright office. For example, he does an "explaining myself" video and registers it with copyright. We archive this video in whole on the site (reproducing it in whole) and clip it. Kino Casino clips it and provides fair use commentary. Null, Brittany Venti, FNC, and the slew of other podcasters does the same. Now Jer can just use DMCA mass takedowns and bring all of us to court.
  • I disagree that it's stupid. He's a fat lolcow and deserves to be made fun of. Not a single person would have imagined such a tactic being deployed for lawfare. What are we supposed to do then? Just leave him alone? Now it's one pathetic podcaster, what if someone in actual positions of power did this? Fair use and criticism just goes out the window?
All of these people suck but for the sake of what little freedom online we still have, I am going to support Hasanabi's side. Our Internet is being increasingly CPC-fied. Our lawmakers are now arguing for a Great Firewall using the exact same arguments the CPC used to censor their internet. And what's worse? The CPC had a point. Websites that refused to maintain databases of Chinese users within China got axed. Now we're quibbling over data ownership too and the end goal is total control.

If I have a choice between seeing Reethan crushed or three redditors and about a half dozen reddit mods it's going to be reddit mods every time. Once he's through with them we can go back to business as usual.
You don't have a choice though.
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People carrying so much weight for this faggot Ethan Klein will act like he is so much different than Jeremy when they employ the same tactics and act similarly when criticized. Yeah, I fucking abhor the whores he is suing, but I'm not going to applaud a Jew engaging in lawfare and lying, because litigious Jews are a bane to society and try to silence any criticism. It's their immediate reaction whenever they are criticized. Jews are all over the internet demanding Jew York Times be sued because they reported Israel is raping people with dogs. For some reason they are less offended by the reports about IDF raping children...interesting. They are one note, and even if you hate the people he is currently suing, no one is immune to their wallets.

I still can't believe retards in this thread are crying about how he should be able to sue because CPS and going after children. His intentions to sue are on record in January '25 when he registered the video. He then spent months begging roach to watch it, thinking he was incredibly clever by luring roach into a trap. He finally settled on suing his whorbiters. Imagine taking advice from Dan Saltman. That stupid fucker has been on a crusade against the Turk for years, and in that time Hasan has only become more popular, while Impstiny is sitting in the kirk chair on campuses, speaking to a crowd of 10 people.
It's like, all of their Sins can be forgiven if they attack Hasanabi and get some redditors shafted.
Terry Davis had a term for this (RIP).
 
Its almost like the same words in different contexts have different weight. If George Clooney says, "Trump probably fucked Ivanka when she was a kid" then no one will take it seriously. If Marla Maples retweets it then it would get attention from major media from around the world.

But another factor which h3 explicitly stated, iDubbbz specifically moved away from America because he hates it so much to Canada which doesn't have free speech protections.
If Trump sued Marla Maples for the retweet but not George Clooney(the guy who actually libeled him) then he would also be a retard
 
Fkn farms ate my long ass reply.

My simplified version:
Hasan is a lolcow, his detractors are lolcows, these are not competing statements. We're on the farms, laugh at the lolcows. Just because one lolcow is felting another one doesn't mean they stop being a lolcow.

I watched the entire 4 hour video and it was shit. Nothing new, organization was shit, tries to pretend to be neutral in that breadtube way that anyone from the farms should be able to recognize. The left (or whatever they are) should learn how to do this long form content more like Joon the King did for the nearly 4 hour coverage of the Quartering. Do something like that for Hasan's detractors would be better. This was just fucking BORING and GAY.
 
If Trump sued Marla Maples for the retweet but not George Clooney(the guy who actually libeled him) then he would also be a retard
He would be a retard, but for a host of other reasons. Retweeting might have been a bad example since "a retweet is not an endorsement" is a pretty well-established norm (even if it usually is), so extend it to whatever the equivalent of using the tweet as a background while streaming would be.
 
Here's why this opens a can of worms:
  • If H33b gets his way, then in the future, any wealthy freak can silence critic communities using the same method of entrapment.
  • Jeremy Hambly can register one of his videos with whatever copyright office. For example, he does an "explaining myself" video and registers it with copyright. We archive this video in whole on the site (reproducing it in whole) and clip it. Kino Casino clips it and provides fair use commentary. Null, Brittany Venti, FNC, and the slew of other podcasters does the same. Now Jer can just use DMCA mass takedowns and bring all of us to court.
OK I just bothered to read most of your post.

Legitimately asking, but is their case not completely different from what you're describing. I thought the h3h3 one was more specific, as in they 1) had pre-meditation (via reddit posts), 2) profited from it, 3) livestreamed it as it was happening with no delay, 4) made no fair use commentary.

With that question in mind, I am still concerned about the potential precedent it could set for archiving uses.
 
So now we've got "Hasan bad industrial complex", "HASAN BAD fandom" and "Hasan Derangement Syndrome" in this thread. Is it possible people just don't like him much and are happy to see his supporters and reddit mods get destroyed by someone who shares 99.9% of his beliefs?
You can dislike and mock someone based on real stuff, not out of context clips and made up fan fiction the cow can easily address while dodging sincere criticism, lumping it into wholesale fake clips.
Hasanabi is a piece of shit that said over 300 million people deserved 9/11 and the consequences (used as an excuse to take away rights, like the Gatriot Act). Unless he outright streams paedophilia (you know, like his detractors such as nuxpedo), he can't really get worse.
Are you people literally incapable of understanding you can hate two people at the same time while hating one more?
Yeah but the one I hate less (well, I probably hate him more now) is trying to throw a cluster bomb into the neighbourhood that would take out the ones I hate more, but also leave me with mangled limbs.
The ones I hate more doesn't want me dead, the worst they'll do is this:
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If there's proven censorship methods on a large normie site like Reddit, you fucking bet it'll happen to us soon.

Legitimately asking, but is their case not completely different from what you're describing. I thought the h3h3 one was more specific, as in they 1) had pre-meditation (via reddit posts), 2) profited from it, 3) livestreamed it as it was happening with no delay, 4) made no fair use commentary.
1) The snark subreddit advertised their clips. It's up to H33b to prove coordination. I doubt he can. This site won't get in trouble for sharing a piracy website, for instance. If I share a powershell script to remove a certain software's spookware spying programme, Null shouldn't be held accountable.
2) Yeah, see the sportsball example.
3) Above
4) I don't know about Frogan or Kaceytron, but Denims made almost 4 hours of commentary over a video that was an hour and 43 minutes long. That's definitely fair use, and she seems to be holding up relatively well. She's also the wealthier out of the two (hillbilly fake comedian and fake Muslim larper).
Honestly, this reminds me of sportsball and similar programmes on television. I don't know why. I don't think anyone has ever tried to pull such a gayop, that's why I personally think it sets a nasty precedence if H33b is allowed to win.
I don't even think fair use is relevant. I'm not a lolyer, someone else can explain what he's trying to achieve (aside from shutting down his alog community).
 
WARNING: LONG AS NULL'S SCHLONG! Before I go own, I want to powerlevel one thing: I've two jobs (technically three). Why do I admit this? Because I want to hammer down how easy it is that if all it matters to you is to prove a point you just do it instead of expecting people to have four fucking hours of free time to dedicate to a video. I don't like anyone in this story (every single person has their own thread) and now I officially don't like even the person that made this video on principle. I've been ragged on this thread and others for going against the grain before, so I'm not le enlightened centrist.

This will take long and the only guide I've been given is Altistic Right's posts. I want to start by saying that whether those that liked the video want to admit or not, this video was made to pander to Hasan's side (as of right now is titled "The Weasely Little Liar Awards") and it frames every detractor of Hasan on the same level.

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Cool. We are up to a great start, eh? The video is so long half of the time I will spend on this write-up is just parsing it.

Let's start easy. I will be treating this video as Hasan sweeping (because it is) but I will be charitable enough to sarcastic jokes. Ethan brought all of this shit on himself. Happy? By pandering to these people. I was aware that Hasan's visit to Artemis (the German brothel) happened about six years before the raid and it was more they had some underage girls rather than exclusively having them underage. I don't think showing the "America deserved 9/11" clip proves this guy isn't a fan by itself because people have tried to justify the clip as out of context (idubbbz for example).

First chronological claim: Deathtreat to senator is out of context. :agree: @Farm Hand posted about this on the Hasan thread already (you will be reading this a lot). Here's the post in detail. Hasan's actual point was that Republicans like Mike Johnson don't care about Medicaid fraud. The agree is a technicality (another thing you will read a lot on this post) as "kill Rick Scott" has effectively gotten the "in Minecraft" treatment. It now denotes that he conducts himself differently on stream than he does on Xitter (where people outside his community can chime in more easily).

Second chronological claim (1:17:00 ish, golly a timestamp): The CPS call is Ethan's fault for oversharing. :agree: Since we are fans of context here, I think it's important to be equal. Yes, Ethan is a retard with no filter but you are missing some key parts of the picture too. One, it turns out Ethan is just a retard and it wasn't giardia. Two, BadEmpanada started the rumour the kids got it by eating dogshit. Three, Denims signalboosted said rumours without checking them and they were treated as fact by a lot of people. Four, people like BadEmpanada started to claim to be the caller. Five, people started to meme on the call and the skulls. Altistic Right really likes to mention how this video was made for us and how Ethan acts Keffalscoded. I would say the Hasansphere kept tipping the cow and they were dumb enough to a-log someone with enough money to back any casus belli he wants.

First intermission (1:24:00): Kaceytron's humiliation ritual. :agree: Hey, look! More context! Content Nuke: Hasan was a nothingburger, amirite? There were about 10 different streams of it to prevent Lex Jewthor from profititing of it. Of those, three were considered not transformative due to minimal commentary or input by the streamers themselves AND SPECIALLY by explicitly stating that their objectives was to cuck the kike out of views. Kaceytron was the worst offender because "she smoked more than she spoke" and was passed out at the tail end of it. Kacey was simply the weakest link of an already very weak chain and Hasan donated nothing for defence fees so she was forced to film the apology as a settlement. Poor little thing.

The Hasanhater roundup: Nobody is defending Nux Taku, that fag Cameron, much less Rapetone. Who the fuck would defend such elite a-logers? Nobody. The video is this bloated to conflate the retarded but slightly (very, very slightly) righteous Ethan with a bunch of people no one fucking likes. A vtuber, Rapetone and a Youtuber that shills himself (who does that remind me of?). All with their own threads or covered in someone else's. Altistic Right, forgive me, but you come off as such a retard when you posit we have to choose sides between these retards (including Ethan btw) and Hasan.

Third chronological claim: Hasan at a Diddy party.




:agree: This is one is in the same level as the Artemis brothel. What happened is that Hasan's beards girlfriends (I think he means more than one in the second clip) at the time managed to drag him to a Diddy party. According to him, he entered a rented house, specifically an area where people were tripping (not him ofc), where the visual of "a supposedly attractive, very young girl" was playing and he was creeped out by it so he left. He ended the relationship with this girl. I don't know if any Hasan ball washers are willing to help me piece out which girl or girls did this but I would appreciate it.

Nitpick: Ethan sided with Keffals: NO SHIT. Like bro, who the fuck even forgot that? The kike will never live that down. Why does it even matter considering both Ethan and Hasan were buddies more recently? I said on my last post, if this hadn't happened to the Kleins, Ethan would be mliking that shit too and its his fault he attracted these people and used these tactics.

Fourth chronological claim: The Arab-Loves Sabra tier list wasn't antisemitic: 🤝 This is a lot more complicated than it seems. On one, Ethan did over blow it. On the other, the Ayyrabs podcast (the people that made the tier list in a very empty and manufactured panel at Twitchcon 2024) had a clear intent to place an Israeli brand of hummus as inauthentic, or "too white" to be properly middle eastern. MikefromPA and even one of the hosts were picked for the Loves Sabra tier and they took it about as nicely as a domesticated leftie can by being called a cracker. The tier list was about using the word "habibi" and who could use it as if it was a race specific term rather than friend in Arabic. It was a joke way of implying who was and who wasn't in the in-crowd of self appointed Arab creators. While Ethan of all people (proud ranker of white people slurs) doesn't get to bitch about it, the Ayyrabs guys knew exactly what they were doing.

Second intermission: Dan Saltman admitting to using contextless clips to slander Hasan.



Peace in the Middle East. No one likes this heeb.

Fifth chronological claim: Hasan knew and felt for Charlie Kirk's passing. :lit: Dude, is this the first time you have seen his crocodile tears? He cries very often for the camera (like that time in Leftovers) and he managed to squeeze at least three puff pieces of Kirk's passing (The New York Times, Mother Jones and Politico). If I'm not mistaken, he even released an op-ed about what he was going to say on the debate they were going to have. If anything he milked his death as much as it was allowed for a leftie.

Sixth chronological claim: There's no proof snarkers called CPS or send the skulls. :agree: Why has Ethan been able to ride this point though? Because people like BadEmpanada and some schizos claimed to do it. Because some people in the greater hasanspehere like Horses joked about it. Instead of universally condemning it, it was treated as a big nod nod, wink wink jokey joke. Again, cow tipping a cow so big that it felted over them.

The Leftovers timeline interlude: Altistic Right, in all due respect I think you are way too charitable to H3snarkers or the idea that Hasan doesn't attacks his opps at all. It's true that Ethan loves clips unless they make him look bad, but the Hasanabi Industrial Complex is effectively a pyramid slop scheme that is almost exclusively consumed by its creators. The only difference is that Ethan cares way too much about coming off as a good guy while Hasan doesn't need to because even his worst moments are only seen by his own fans most of the time (every clip we have of Shocktober 7th was made by Hasanheads and the clips of his first dog Fish were also made by his own fans). He literally benefits of all engagement unlike Ethan that needs a cookie cutter image.

I already touched on the the tier list and Kaceytron's apology. Is Denims' stream transformative because it lasts about double the time of the original video? As I wrote already, there were only three people that streamed Content Nuke and were considered non-transformative out of many. Denims in particular made clear from the announcement of the stream that her intent was to prevent Lex Jewthor from getting views and her stream was promoted plenty both on r/h3snark and r/Leftoversh3. Much like with Kacey and Frogan (who none of the shills even came to defend so far), her commentary was minimal, reactions even more so and was out of the three the one that antagonised the kike the most.

Seventh chronological claim: Denims didn't brag about the CPS call. :agree: However, as established before she was the person who signalboosted the giardia claims (reacting to BadEmpanada's rumours a mere two days later and one before the CPS call was made) and there are reasons that people read she "bragged" about the call. She got rid of the original VOD where her chat was filled with comments asking for CPS to be called. She first downplayed the call. She tried to save face for "tapping the glass", all the while laughing off the Kleins had reasons to be offended of being doubted.
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Same video I linked btw. Threatened to sue Ethan. Got sued back. Made a OF set laughing about it with the case covering her flat ass. You get the picture. I wonder why Lex Jewthor would want her butterface off the face of the Earth?

Eight chronological claim: h3snark didn't antagonise Ethan to the level he claims. NULL. This point will be declared null for two simple reasons. One, they did antagonise him and prompt anyone that was willing to call Ethan a kike without saying it. Two and most important, Ethan loves snark content when it isn't about him. He a-logs Trisha with as much passion as his opps give him.

One of the jannies in h3snark was literally named BadEmpanadaConcubine. I've written George Angelos Ganitis' name enough times to conjure it has weight and he was the attack dog for the Hasan sphere until he bit the hand that fed him. If you can't blame people like him or Denims for starting narratives, you can't also claim innocence for the masses that repeat them. And this website if anything should serve as an example of how having rules doesn't mean people follow them.

Can you imagine if Jeremy Hambly started to DMCA every post that clipped him and then used subpoenas to try and get the identities of frequent posters?

Do you really want to support this piece of garbage? Has Hasanabi ever used the deaths of three people to try and deplatform us?
I noticed that you often conjure parallel examples among other cows as much as you want to conjure a bond of sorts in struggle. This is manipulative and if I may be personal, can't shake the feeling you have a personal stake on this for how much you insist on it. I don't defend Ethan and will never do because I don't understand why the fuck it is my problem these two closeted faggots are fighting. It is so optimistic to think Hasan with power would allow places like this to exist.

Would you accept LFJ strongarming this site into submission so you can see the dox of a few Reddit moderators?
No. I count myself as someone that doesn't like doxing on this site. And yet, you think a redditor would offer the same kindness to a kiwi farmer if presented with the same choice. Should our entire userbase have to pay for the crimes of cowtippers? Or are we supposed to be better? Either way it always comes to us vs them, innit?

I don't know. There's something funny about equating the Charlie Hebdo cartoonists with jihadi simps.

That's a gap of two weeks. The call happened in mid-March I think.
It was March 3rd. Now who is speaking out his ass? I'm done being nice.

In case anyone has made it to the end of this post, I wanted to add something. Maybe something funny about how it didn't take me four hours to write it despite losing power three times. How when I asked why no one that was actually shilling Kilo's video could explain their points, I was told to check Altistic's posts. But instead I'm just reminded that even this place is just as full of bullshit as the rest of the net. All of those agrees are technicalities. Both the Jew and the Turk remain people that wouldn't bat an eye if this website dissapeared. That doesn't matter because kiwis don't grow here or anywhere else. Everything that doesn't take root elsewhere ends here. Even shills and I hate those.

The only reason I made this is after seeing a different slapfight in the Hasan thread about it. In all honesty, if all it takes to blow your mind and change your opinions is a decently edited video essay that only proves we have the Internet we deserve.
 
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He would be a retard, but for a host of other reasons. Retweeting might have been a bad example since "a retweet is not an endorsement" is a pretty well-established norm (even if it usually is), so extend it to whatever the equivalent of using the tweet as a background while streaming would be.
I know you feel like your safe space to praise the eternal Jew has been invaded, but at least try to make sense.

Ethan is going after Ian purely out of spite. We don't have to pretend it's anything other than that, or make up that he has good reason to do it. He is terrified of Impstiny, so he was never going to acknowledge what was said. The Jew who cried Skulls was blaming everyone under the sun for CPS but lets a raped butt plug pervert call him a pedophile who molests his own children. The screenshot was already all over the place. Overlaying it so Ethan is forced to acknowledge it is probably one of the only useful things Ian has done in his life. Of course, it'll likely bite Ian in the ass, but Ethan is now streisanding the entire ordeal so more people are going to be exposed to him being called a child molester pedophile and not going after the person who actually said it.

Ian is a worthless husk eunuch. Ethan is such a retard that he is actually making people feel sympathy for Ian. It's the same thing with clipping out of context shit with Hasan, as was mentioned above. These people have no impulse control. Hasan has said enough commie shit that he could have and would have easily hanged himself. Instead, these mongoloids start astroturfing clips that can be fact checked easily, or make up lies like that shit about the brothel.

> Hasan visited a brothel that got raided (true)
> Hasan visited a brothel that got raided for sex trafficking (not true, but most normies will just believe this, and it makes Hasan look bad in their eyes)
> Hasan visited a brothel that got raided for sex trafficking and he has sex with a 16 year old girl (no one knows anything about the prostitute + no trafficking raid)
> HASAN VISITED A BROTHEL RAIDED FOR SEX TRAFFICKING, HE RAPED A 14 YEAR OLD EASTERN EUROPEAN GIRL AND HE TOLD ME ALL ABOUT IT.

Why ramp it up so much that it comes off as so incredibly unbelievable? Why the fuck would Hasan tell Destiny he slept with a 14 year old, and why would Destiny, who has been trying to ruin Hasan for years, just reveal it a couple months ago? It makes people look at Hasan and go "wow, everyone is lying about him!" and makes it easier for people dismiss all the terrible shit he actually does. I've been seeing the same shit with Ian now. "Wow, Ian was trying to be the bigger person. Ethan is bullying him. I actually feel bad for Ian now. He was defaming Ian and bullying his wife!" If Ethan just left it alone people would still be laughing about Ian tucking his tail away and being a little bitch. Now people out there are actually rooting for Ian. It's all just so pathetic.
 
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