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Christian theology thread for Christians - Deus homo factus est naturam erante, mundus renovatus est a Christo regnante
The jews killed Christ, so "we" dindu nuffin
besides that, if aliens exist and they have rational souls (doubtful since they are not descendant of Adam), Christ would have died for them too since they too have mortal sin, otherwise we would be talking about Angels or Saints and not material rational beings
I know this is a bit 'tistic
if aliens exist and they have rational souls (doubtful since they are not descendant of Adam), Christ would have died for them too since they too have mortal sin, otherwise we would be talking about Angels or Saints and not material rational beings
rational souls (doubtful since they are not descendant of Adam), Christ would have died for them too since they too have mortal sin, otherwise we would be talking about Angels or Saints and not material rational beings
I think C.S. Lewis' stance on aliens in his Space Trilogy (and subesequently Religion and Rocketry essay), where he declares that, if it's so hard for us to find Him, then it would be difficult for us to find Him in space. It is unlikely for life beyond our planet, but we would be ill-equipped to understand such revelations, and ultimately need to formulate a proper response.
However, The Trilogy does answer that question, starting with: "When God created Man, did he make multiple men (rational beings) across the universe?" It fictionally declares God made multiple brothers among the solar system, but unlike us, they followed His command and never fell from grace. Instead, humanity is symbolized as a terrible threat, with humanity's sinful ambition having already wrecked havoc on the earth, yet the aliens are fascinated and look favorably us, being the only beings to have God incarnated as them.
On the same topic, everyone should read The Screwtape Letters. Invaluable insight into the nature of sin and how The Devil and his angels try to hurt us.
I think C.S. Lewis' stance on aliens in his Space Trilogy (and subesequently Religion and Rocketry essay), where he declares that, if it's so hard for us to find Him, then it would be difficult for us to find Him in space. It is unlikely for life beyond our planet, but we would be ill-equipped to understand such revelations, and ultimately need to formulate a proper response.
However, The Trilogy does answer that question, starting with: "When God created Man, did he make multiple men (rational beings) across the universe?" It fictionally declares God made multiple brothers among the solar system, but unlike us, they followed His command and never fell from grace. Instead, humanity is symbolized as a terrible threat, with humanity's sinful ambition having already wrecked havoc on the earth, yet the aliens are fascinated and look favorably us, being the only beings to have God incarnated as them.
The first two books of the Space Trilogy are solid. Out of the Silent Planet is the one that deals most directly with alien life in a Christian universe, and I think does a pretty good job of it. It's also sort of about the problems with colonialism and modernism, but it makes a pretty good case without being annoying about it.
Perelandra is possibly the best fiction CS Lewis ever wrote, criminally underrated. It's also the least subtle thing he ever wrote, and with Lewis, that's saying something. It's less about aliens in general more about the Fall of Man in a more universal context. I can't count how many times I've read the chapter of the main character debating God about trying to get out of his divine calling.
That Hideous Strength is... okay. It has basically nothing to do with space, and is more about the failures of scientism. I wouldn't say I disagree with its overall message, mostly, but it's far less interesting than the first two.
May the God of hope fill you with all joy and peace as you trust in him, so that you may overflow with hope by the power of the Holy Spirit. (Romans 15:13)
What are everyone's thoughts on Aramaic primacy? Some of it I think is interesting like the Peshitta, or how certain Aramainisms appear in the original Greek such as Christ referring to God as "Abba" which as I understand it is the more informal "Dad" vs. the more formal "Father" as we would know in English. Where it starts getting wacky and going off the rails in my view is using the Peshitta as evidence or supreme to the original Greek Gospels, even though it was translated in the 5th century, and the earliest Gospel, Mark, was written in Koine in ~70AD. To me this feels a lot like anti-Pauline/antichurch schizoposting, which is ironic because Paul's letters are the earliest evidence we have for Christ's ministry, so that's the framework anti-Pauline folks are still working in.
Videos like this are what I'm referring to:
The Maronite Mass uses Aramaic for the words of institution of the Eucharist, since that was Jesus' language.
At first I didn't know what it was, thought it was Hebrew or Arabic.
The Maronite monks very extreme & live like hermits. I didn't like the music at all, dunno how to describe it. "middle eastern"
My friend's kid was married in a Maronite church, which is why I went.
Never even heard Aramaic spoken aloud before that.
My parents taught me that eating blood-based foods is wrong because the soul of the animal is contained in the blood. Is there anything in the bible that points to this (they are protestants)? Also what's wrong with eating the animal's soul? Do animals have souls?
Flavius Josephus: “Now around this time lived Jesus, a wise man. For he was a worker of amazing deeds and was a teacher of people who gladly accept the truth. He won over both many Jews and many Greeks. Pilate, when he heard him accused by the leading men among us, condemned him to the cross, (but) those who had first loved him did not cease (doing so). To this day the tribe of Christians named after him has not disappeared”
My parents taught me that eating blood-based foods is wrong because the soul of the animal is contained in the blood. Is there anything in the bible that points to this (they are protestants)?
I'm pretty sure it's rather a ceremonial law intended to develop a proper mindset and setting over the years (same goes to seemingly "nonsensical" OT rules like avoid mixing fabrics or crops, even though technically mixing them is much more productive) regarding salvation. Life is in the blood, hence why kosher meat still has all blood drained completely. There is a verse in NT that talks about avoiding blood in food, but given context, I'm thinking the main reason for that is because there was a really high chance that it was either a ritualistic food, or, knowing pagans, in general had some pagan rituals/spells cast over it. Blood holds major spiritual importance that didn't change under the new covenant, it's like a fundamental element in the fabric of the spiritual world. So while Jews were taught how to approach the blood properly, others were merely acknowledging the power of blood but misuing it all the time. By consuming blood you were basically participating in rituals, even if indirectly. Nowadays though? Hard to say. Like I said, blood is powerful, and for a reason. I see it rather as a ceremonial law, but who knows. Knowing what kind of stuff "witches" that I knew did, even with animal blood, I'd avoid whatever bloody food I may or may not be offered.
Yes. It is however unclear whether or not animals in heaven will be re-created ones that we know in this life, or if they just cease to exist and heaven will have other animals. It seems that people have a spirit, while animals don't. But both have a soul.
Yes. It is however unclear whether or not animals in heaven will be re-created ones that we know in this life, or if they just cease to exist and heaven will have other animals.
What is the difference (and definition) of the soul and the spirit? My father introduced that concept to me, but I thought it was some kind of protestant invention.
The soul seems to be what gives “life”. Even plants have a soul, but it’s not to be mistaken for the immortal soul that humans have or even the soul with a consciousness like with animals. It’s really just what animates those plants in a sense. I mean, animals could have an immortal soul just like humans, which I don’t personally believe this but I certainly won’t limit God. It just depends on if you personally believe in Aristotle’s philosophy or not.
