Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

Is very funny because the US and Taliban representatives met face to face when they were negotiating the Afghan Withdrawal, North Vietnam and the US also met face to face for the Paris Peace Accords, there is literally no excuse not to meet face to face other than the Iranians being a bunch of faggots.

Or maybe because some members of the Iranian delegations won't contain themselves and will go on a sperg out about the US and Israel, completely derailing the talks.

That or the Iranians think the US delegation has cooties or some shit.
It's because they know being seen together with the US will lead to regime change by hardliners within the regime. The leaders want to negotiate to save themselves from the US, but the same negotiations are putting them at risk with their own people. They are trying to play it both ways. Idk good luck with that I guess lol
 
Iran wants to pass notes like middle school girl gossiping about that slut Becky who made out with Kyle with tongue. They also will NOT take a selfie for Vance's 'gram reel.
Reminder the first indirect negotiations with Oman as the mediator took 7 HOURS! when the second round of negotiations took 4 HOURS!

I would lose my mind if I had to deal with anyone like this.
 
To be honest, this is the reason why i think they will take place. No reason to plan something this retarded if you don't plan to show up.

But if you make the VPOTUS wait and ultimately stand him up, you'll look super cool and badass and gain +10,000,000 izzat.

You can't just take a deal when you can stretch out a war ad infinitum for your 10000% inevitable victory! That would violate the Boris Johnson school of diplomacy.
 
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He even included the stock ticker symbol in the tweet, how much you wanna bet an IP address at Mar a Lago bought a bunch of $PLTR call options a few minutes beforehand?

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Al Jazeera: US-Iran talks in Pakistan: Who’s attending, what’s on the agenda? 🄰
The White House has confirmed that formal discussions will start on Saturday morning local time.
Iran’s Supreme National Security Council said on April 8 that talks could continue for up to 15 days — suggesting the possibility that at least some members of the delegations may stay in Islamabad beyond Saturday, or return to the Pakistani capital for subsequent rounds of talks.
Iranian Parliament Speaker Mohammad Bagher Ghalibaf and Foreign Minister Abbas Araghchi are expected to lead the Iranian delegation. It is unclear whether any representative from Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) — which is leading Tehran’s military response in the war — will attend the talks. But Pakistani officials cautioned that nothing was a certainty until the delegations actually arrived.
Iran’s ambassador to Pakistan, Reza Amiri Moghadam, briefly announced on X that the Iranian delegation would arrive on April 9. “Despite skepticism of Iranian public opinion due to repeated ceasefire violations by the Israeli regime to sabotage the diplomatic initiative,” he wrote, the delegation had come for “serious talks based on the 10 points proposed by Iran.” But he deleted the post within hours.
Vance’s inclusion in the talks is a key development. Iranian officials are sceptical [sic] about further engagement with Witkoff and Kushner — they point to earlier negotiations with them in Muscat and Geneva in February, and how the US started bombing Iran even as talks were ongoing. They view Vance as more open to ending the conflict.
The last sitting US president to visit Pakistan was George W Bush in March 2006. The last vice president to visit Pakistan was Joe Biden in January 2011.
“Lack of trust is the biggest obstacle,” [Institute for Global Affairs analyst Sahar Khan] told Al Jazeera. “Right now, both Washington and Tehran are trying to demonstrate that they ‘won’ by making maximalist demands, but if this ceasefire holds and they actually meet, that will be the most important step.”
A final settlement remains unlikely in the short term, with deep mistrust on both sides, say analysts. Lebanon is emerging as the central faultline. Khalid said that Sharif’s invitation had explicitly referenced Lebanon, suggesting prior discussions with Washington. “Netanyahu immediately rejected Pakistan’s stance while President Trump also subsequently excluded Lebanon from the scope of the ceasefire,” the former ambassador said. “Iran, on the other hand, is insistent on stopping Israeli aggression in Lebanon, and it has the support of some key countries like France. The key is in President Trump’s hands,” the former envoy added.
Dania Thafer, executive director of the Gulf International Forum, said Israel’s absence from the talks was a structural challenge.
“Israel being a party to the war, and the one who has the most interests vested in continuing this war, needs to be part of the negotiation and the final settlement,” she said. “Otherwise, they could always argue that Israelis did not agree to the terms of any agreement.”
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Talks are expected to last around 15 days. (lol 2 weeks)
Vance's inclusion is significant because he's seen as more likely to end the conflict, Pakistan doesn't have a US ambassador at the moment, and it's the first time a VPOTUS has visited Pakistan since 2011.
If negotiations go sideways, it will likely be because of Lebanon and Israel's continued engagement and their absences from the talks.
 
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Gosh, i am really torn between:

A) my desire to see Trump further humiliate himself by repeatedly extending and breaking his own ceasefire each time the markets contract another couple of points or another MAGA influencer calls him out on twitter. And B) Seeing Trump claim 'COMPLETE AND TOTAL 100% VICTORY!' and then leaving Europe along with the Gulf states to hard pivot towards China as their guarantor of free trade.

If Trump could also then leave NATO so that we dont have to fight in that retarded war you are gonna lose over Taiwan, that would be grand as well.
Thanks.
 
Seconding this, can't find any sources except for an article by Ma'ariv which cites claims floating around but not any sources. The lady says she is citing i24News because Yossi Yehoshua works for i24News, but I'm guessing it hasn't been put on their websites possibly because the claims aren't credible enough yet to be article-worthy.

Something that happens frequently in any conflict that involves Israel in any way is that anti-Israel types will claim that "Israel Channel 12" or some other Israeli news source claimed something super damaging to Israel, yet, strangely, they'll never link to the video clip or article.

The "Israel Channel 12" is pure Hebrew. Their website doesn't offer an English page unlike Haartez/Times of Israel/Jerusalem Post/i24.

So either leftists and sandniggers are learning Hebrew, to watch "Israel Channel 12" live, but somehow forget to record what they're watching for these super damaging statements by Israeli media showing how Israel is DOOOOOOMED or they're making shit up.
 
It's because they know being seen together with the US will lead to regime change by hardliners within the regime. The leaders want to negotiate to save themselves from the US, but the same negotiations are putting them at risk with their own people. They are trying to play it both ways. Idk good luck with that I guess lol
They are fucked either way
 
But seriously this is what an Egyptian told me
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To be fair the military base was there LONG before Tel Aviv grow around it.
People fail to understand how small Israel is, the light rail (red line) goes trough 6 cities, mother fucking SIX cities!
Most people drive trough 2-4 cities to get to work everyday (30min-60min one way depending on time of day)

Many Israeli military bases are old British ones, that were build in the middle of nowhere, and now are in the middle of big cities.
 
Why won't they just fucking talk to each other. This is dumbest fucking way to conduct diplomacy.
It's how two entities (governments and/or non-state actors) negotiate when it's very important for at least one not to implicitly legitimize the other by being seen with them.
If I were a betting man, I'd say it's Iran that doesn't want to be seen in the same room as the US more than the other way around.
I don't think you'd send someone like the Vice-President for note-passing negotiations in the dark, a bit too high-profile for the diplomatic equivalent of "this could've been an email"
 
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Two Meraj Airlines aircraft have taken off from Iran and are heading toward Pakistan, where they are expected to be involved in movements linked to upcoming talks with the American delegation.️ Such aircraft have previously been used to transport Iranian officials and delegations across the region, particularly to Iraq, Syria, and Lebanon.

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Israel-Lebanon ceasefire is possible tomorrow.
 
Gosh, i am really torn between:

A) my desire to see Trump further humiliate himself by repeatedly extending and breaking his own ceasefire each time the markets contract another couple of points or another MAGA influencer calls him out on twitter. And B) Seeing Trump claim 'COMPLETE AND TOTAL 100% VICTORY!' and then leaving Europe along with the Gulf states to hard pivot towards China as their guarantor of free trade.

If Trump could also then leave NATO so that we dont have to fight in that retarded war you are gonna lose over Taiwan, that would be grand as well.
You mean the country that is now buying fuel from the US and thus proving they are bitch made?
 
Why won't they just fucking talk to each other. This is dumbest fucking way to conduct diplomacy.

@DumbDude43 has pretty well nailed. They are being such utter fucking pedants that they believe being in the same room as the US negotiating team will "legimitize" the US and thus the Kike's control of Israel (which to be fair to the Iranian, the jews WOULD try to claim that). They are backwards childraping mudpeople, incompatible with modern society or western enlightment and they all need to die.

The value boost from being recognized by another nation is the sort of reason why every other world leader tries to get a meeting with the US president. So its like that only because the US is the great satan and untrustworthy etc etc. they would lose unconscionable levels of Izzat by meeting with them. The average retarded goat fucker that makes up their base will wonder "why is our holy allah-annointed government sending representatives to meet with the personification of evil? That's not what the prophet would ahve done, he'd have fucked a 9 year old".

This is a large part of why most Mid East diplomacy was done at Camp David from Carter to Dubya; it wasn't a peace conference, oh no. The US president just invited the Kike's Grandpoobah and whatever carpet pilot leader was chimping out to a nice nature retreat. Absolutely NOT official talks in anyway, but if while we're fly fishing SOMEONE happens to talk about geopolitics well I guess that simply cannot be helped Oh geesh how did that happen.

This was how the palestinian reps were allowed to attend what amounted to a peace summit, but the Kikes didn't want them at the official summit because they didn't recognize the PLO as a legitimate organization; you can't have random rabble at a diplomatic meeting of world leaders.

But you are just being invited to the President's cabin for a weekend, and he invites some non-leaders there, well I mean the US president can invite anyone he wants, it'd be rude to say something to your host about his guests. And if we happen to start talking about the situation in the middile east well I mean that is just something that could happen. And if there's some document we sign at this completely not-official meeting while all our entourages are there, I mean that just sort of happens. Its NOT a diplomatic event though.

So have to do this separate rooms bullshit and let Pakistan pass notes and just lie to both that the other side is totally agreeing with them.


there is literally no excuse not to meet face to face other than the Iranians being a bunch of faggots.
Bad news: they are all a bunch of faggots. Adn they believe trannies are true & honest women.

To be honest, this is the reason why i think they will take place. No reason to plan something this retarded if you don't plan to show up.
Hi. I see this your first time dealing with muslims.

So the whole thing is a giant show of "we tried" to other nations at best, and an attempt by Iran to run out the clock on Trump that he fell for at worst.
From the US side, yes. This is why we are going through the motions and wasting time blue-balling us when we could getting more kino TMD.

But if you make the VPOTUS wait and ultimately stand him up, you'll look super cool and badass and gain +10,000,000 izzat.

You can't just take a deal when you can stretch out a war ad infinitum for your 10000% inevitable victory! That would violate the Boris Johnson school of diplomacy.
Pretty much this.
 
Was Iran thinking they were going to walk into this negotiation with a newly-coup'd Lebanon under their belt? And then it was snatched away from them?
Hezbollah has been starting shit in Sunni neighborhoods today:

Video shows Hezbollah protesters chanting “Shia, Shia” in Hamra and Bliss st., a part of West Beirut broadly associated with the city’s Sunni-majority areas and not generally considered a Hezbollah stronghold, as part of an anti-Nawaf Salam protest.

This points to Iran wanting total control of Lebanon but Israel buttfucking them ruined that idea, again.

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The US has released $6billion of frozen Iranian assets as an incentive for Iran to go to the ceasefire negotiations.
 
Was Iran thinking they were going to walk into this negotiation with a newly-coup'd Lebanon under their belt? And then it was snatched away from them?
I don't buy the coup rumor, If Hezbollah started a new civil war in Lebanon I think everyone would turn on them, including their "political allies".
I think Iran is just trying to pull some power moves, making the other party wait is arguably the oldest one in the book.
 
Hezbollah has been starting shit in Sunni neighborhoods today:
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Video shows Hezbollah protesters chanting “Shia, Shia” in Hamra and Bliss st., a part of West Beirut broadly associated with the city’s Sunni-majority areas and not generally considered a Hezbollah stronghold, as part of an anti-Nawaf Salam protest.

This points to Iran wanting total control of Lebanon but Israel buttfucking them ruined that idea, again.

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The US has released $6billion of frozen Iranian assets as an incentive for Iran to go to the ceasefire negotiations.
At least Trump is committed to negotiations. I hope these retarded muzzies don't get too excited. If Jared is raped i'll unleash my Jewish space lasers on muzzies.
 
I truly think that if Iran was able to shut up for five seconds they'd be in a better position but they couldn't help but to sperg out and now everyone knows that Hezbollah are proxies. They just handed all the justification for Israel and Lebanon has more motive to fully obliterate them and let the jews do it as well.
 
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