US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Members of the Trump Administration
https://www.whitehouse.gov/administration/

 

[marvlouslie]

I wish you folks could hear yourselves the way normal people do. "Our President is just a compulsive liar and we shouldn't expect him to tell us the truth about the war he started!"

I'm going back and quoting this again, because BITCH, WHAT DID I SAY?!

 

[CharlesBarkley]

Haven't seen this posted, if it has my apologies.

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If they are still lobbing rockets, what’s the point? They can’t even meet the basic condition to start a negotiation.

 

[pwnest injun]

also we should be using nukes instead of conventional bombs.

Absolutely should use nuclear bunker busters on their underground missile depots in the mountains. Completely legitimate use case.

 

[WelperHelper99]

Something to keep in mind is that the Iranians are going to say any-fucking-thing they can to retain whatever scraps of face they have left. Especially in light of the U.S. camping in their front yard to retrieve a pilot. That had to sting.

I imagine the pilot rescue factored into their capitulation a fair deal. They know we can hit them at any time, from above or within. What they say now is to keep their people from killing the current government.

 

[Jet Fuel Johnny]

Haven't seen this posted, if it has my apologies.

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Oh, wait, I just realized why all those faggot motherfuckers on Twitter are claiming that Trump caved and accepted Iran's terms.

Because the "acceptance of the general framework of Iran's 10 Point proposal" is all they read and then they go and ignore "as a basis for negotiations."

It really shows that these halfwits have never even negotiated to buy a house or a car and probably just pay sticker price.

They're also ignoring that last point.

When the Arab says "Give me all of this!!!" that's their basis of negotiations. Accepting that the "GIVE ME ALL OF THIS OR I'LL KEEP HITTING MYSELF WITH THIS HAMMER!" is the basis of their negotiation is NOT saying "Oh, well I better give it to you."

It's "OK, this is what these retarded motherfuckers want."

That's when you then say: "You get nothing but more high explosives if you demand any of those points beyond 'please don't bomb our goat fucking pedophile worshipping asses', you retarded assholes." as a basis for your negotiation.

But people can't fucking read, I guess.

That's why you all bought a waterbed on 67.5% APR.

 

[marvlouslie]

Something to keep in mind is that the Iranians are going to say any-fucking-thing they can to retain whatever scraps of face they have left. Especially in light of the U.S. camping in their front yard to retrieve a pilot. That had to sting.

I mean, we were spawn camping their leadership two weeks ago, so....

 

[Alcoholism]

Haven't seen this posted, if it has my apologies.

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I'll be damned.

He just comes out on top every time.

 

[MerelyAPlateOfSpaghetti]

Every day Trump wakes up alive is a gift from God. Dude's at the age where "he died in his sleep" isn't out of the question. It's nice to have a president who DOES things for once. We have Trump to thank for Artemis

 

[Fatpacks]

I'll be damned.

He just comes out on top every time.

He literally didn't. See below:

What Trump is negotiating from:
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Keep in mind, agreeing to any of of the economic points is a win for Iran as they were sanctioned and didn't receive any fee prior to the conflict.

 

[Oh!]

Haven't seen this posted, if it has my apologies.

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"We surrender! But, like, we're not surrendering. This is totally a part of the agreement! We're just playing ball. Please don't fucking kill us"

 

[Samuel Fuller]

Something to keep in mind is that the Iranians are going to say any-fucking-thing they can to retain whatever scraps of face they have left. Especially in light of the U.S. camping in their front yard to retrieve a pilot. That had to sting.

That rescue mission was probably all it took for the Iranian leaders to start calling Islamabad asking if they could ask the US for mercy.

Seeing what would usually be a huge morale boost and PR score like capturing an American pilot turn into a scorched earth perimeter and successful extraction so easily probably sobered a few hardliners right up.

They aren’t going to score any points by driving a beef jerky ration down the Main Street in Tehran, even if it is teriyaki jerky.

 

[Sammich]

Oh, wait, I just realized why all those faggot motherfuckers on Twitter are claiming that Trump caved and accepted Iran's terms.

Because the "acceptance of the general framework of Iran's 10 Point proposal" is all they read and then they go and ignore "as a basis for negotiations."

seems to me it was more "hey, he didn't nuke iran, he caved"

I personally think a couple targeted EMPs could have done some serious damage, that tech has really grown and it's enough to turn the lights out for awhile.

 

[Alcoholism]

He literally didn't. See below:

This is literally how negotiations work.

hat rescue mission was probably all it took for the Iranian leaders to start calling Islamabad asking if they could ask the US for mercy.

Big "Oh I they can Venezuela us after all? Oh shit."

 

[SaidNoOneEver]

I imagine the pilot rescue factored into their capitulation a fair deal. They know we can hit them at any time, from above or within. What they say now is to keep their people from killing the current government.

It wasn't a pilot rescue and it 1000% led to Trump's crazy 48-hour bluff and capitulation today.

 

[Blewberry Nausea]

Oh, wait, I just realized why all those faggot motherfuckers on Twitter are claiming that Trump caved and accepted Iran's terms.

Because the "acceptance of the general framework of Iran's 10 Point proposal" is all they read and then they go and ignore "as a basis for negotiations."

It really shows that these halfwits have never even negotiated to buy a house or a car and probably just pay sticker price.

They're also ignoring that last point.

When the Arab says "Give me all of this!!!" that's their basis of negotiations. Accepting that the "GIVE ME ALL OF THIS OR I'LL KEEP HITTING MYSELF WITH THIS HAMMER!" is the basis of their negotiation is NOT saying "Oh, well I better give it to you."

It's "OK, this is what these retarded motherfuckers want."

That's when you then say: "You get nothing but more high explosives if you demand any of those points beyond 'please don't bomb our goat fucking pedophile worshipping asses', you retarded assholes." as a basis for your negotiation.

But people can't fucking read, I guess.

That's why you all bought a waterbed on 67.5% APR.

Yes, these are the people that pre-order games still

 

[Alcoholism]

It wasn't a pilot rescue

Did they hand the pilot over or did we go in and get him?

 

[Endless Torment]

This is literally how negotiations work.

Agreeing to any of the points outside ceasing hostilities is a lost which means the negotiation is pointless or we lost. If the negotiations are pointless we should have bombed them.

 

[harmacist]

Did they hand the pilot over or did we go in and get him?

seal team 6 extracted him

 

[Samuel Fuller]

Did they hand the pilot over or did we go in and get him?

Dropped bombs and blew shit up to hold the IRGC at bay and scooped him up like a kindergarten pickup.


Showed the Iranians that the US doesn’t just own their skies, they can take whatever the fuck they decide to off the ground, and that’s something that will give any general menstrual cramps.

 

[Can of Bread]

Oh, wait, I just realized why all those faggot motherfuckers on Twitter are claiming that Trump caved and accepted Iran's terms.

Because the "acceptance of the general framework of Iran's 10 Point proposal" is all they read and then they go and ignore "as a basis for negotiations."

These are the same people retweeting Alex Jones and Cernovich after they posted a "Trump awards Presidential Medal to Gen. Milley and Fauci" and yelling about how horrible Trump is and has turned on his base, when in big, bold lettering smack dab in the center of the article, it says it was from 2021.

I'm not sure whose paying these grifting lunatics to stir shit, but there is some major shit stirring going on here, and Trump needs to figure out where the fuck it's coming from and deal with it. Because it's obviously coordinated, but it's pulling in a lot of people who can't see the coordination and are just doom-pilled.