Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

That's what happened with Vietnam. The lesson learned by our enemies then is still being applied today.

You might not be able to beat the American military but you can beat the American public.
The lesson both Israel and America should have learned is to put every journo against the war in jail. It's absurd how the same false talking points are repeated by different people. It's not even clear if it's foreign intervention or the journos are so insane they'd rather the country lose than let Trump be considered as winning.

And this is a war where virtually no damage has been done to the USA and Israel, if an actual war happens the journos would legitimately be a fifth column.
 
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EU has chosen decline and decline has gotten so ingrained the status quo is not doing nothing, it's making something worse. AfD and the likes are not arguing for a better Germany or insert EU nation but to go back 20 years into the past when things were less shit.
Already got leftist euros and canadians online chomping at the bit to enforce "international laws" by trying to arrest Trump and cabinet for ordering to commit war crimes against the Iranians. And they still got arrest warrants out on Dubya.
 
An example of an average day somewhere else with a similar class UAV
lancets have substantially fallen out of vogue recently, they cannot be produced in the numbers the ubiquitous FPV drone can and they lack the range, endurance and anti-EW capability of something more nasty like the FP-2 which has done catastrophic damage to high end air defence equipment over the summer, they fall into the same category of things like switchblades and the Israeli hero series drones that they’re a copy of, too expensive to be ubiquitous but not good enough for higher tier missions
overall an artefact of last years wars
 
U.S. forces seized a farm 18 kilometres from his hideout, landing two aircraft and small helicopters.
During takeoff, two C‑130s became stuck in sand
The fuck are these nigs farming? Cacti?

I know if it was up to their military they would be all in, I know several guys who have been stationed in Germany and they all say German military guys are based as it gets.
Unfortunately, German troops are needed to fight enemies elsewhere (Germany).
 
I hope the number of UAVs Iran has produced is taken into account by US intel. All that there currently is, "is just talks" of a ground operation. I am still just convinced this is all just Iran and US launching missiles at each other's airbases.
"Aw geez Mr president, we didn't think they'd have SUICIDE drones! All 5000 Marines died before the landing. God if only we had accounted for this! There should be some sort of countermeasures for this kinda thing huh? We'll just get to work on that."
 

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so the idea would be a 45 day ceasefire followed by a "pwease don't make any nukes, ok?" settlement, maybe? i sincerely hope trump won't fall for it and will cripple them further before he considers a ceasefire.

So this has been reported. Essentially, if true, it is Trump essentially re-instating the exact agreement he revoked in his first term,.

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so the idea would be a 45 day ceasefire followed by a "pwease don't make any nukes, ok?" settlement, maybe? i sincerely hope trump won't fall for it and will cripple them further before he considers a ceasefire.
Iran has made it clear that it refuses even a "temporary" reopening of the Strait, which is one of Trump's hard lines. This seem to mostly be concocted by a bunch of Pakistanis with maybe some low-level US staffer ferreting messages back and forth.
 
So this has been reported. Essentially, if true, it is Trump essentially re-instating the exact agreement he revoked in his first term,.
Ill try to be less of an inflammatory jingoist for a moment here. At this point in time, the military has gone too far to settle for anything less than Iran giving up its ability to project power beyond its borders. This includes through missiles, proxies, and threats against the strait. The damage they have inflicted against neutral parties and against civilian infrastructure means anything short of complete capitulation cant be trusted by us or our allies in the region. I could always be wrong, but it really looks like the end game of this is going to be the total destruction of their infrastructure and the fomenting of a very unfortunate and ugly civil war while the US and friends periodically fly over to tear down assets that threaten anything outside Iran.
 
Even if this were true, I have a feeling that Trump's idea of what Iran foregoing nuclear weapons looks like varies from Obama's.
Most certainly. If Trump thinks Iran would ever agree to cessation entirely of Uranium enrichment, then we should expect Trump's threat to go into effect on Tuesday because Iran would never agree to that period paragraph because that would entail turning over the uranium enrichment and they just won't give away the only thing that stops their complete destruction. Those troops have amassed for a reason and I think Trump is contemplating doing something that carries incredible risk. Objectively, the naval power he has placed in the region would appear to serve two purposes: allow the land invasion of one or more islands and to also mitigate the projectile response from Iran. It is noteworthy neither of those two goals requires the destruction of Irans civil infrastructure (power plants, bridges).

A lot of people think Trump is looking for an off-ramp to the conflict, but I have my doubts he is seeking such. I also have my doubts Iran's regime is looking for an off-ramp either. I think people around them, their advisors and country allies on both sides are seeking such, but at heart, not the leadership (Trump and the the Iranian Leadership).
 
Most certainly. If Trump thinks Iran would ever agree to cessation entirely of Uranium enrichment, then we should expect Trump's threat to go into effect on Tuesday because Iran would never agree to that period paragraph because that would entail turning over the uranium enrichment and they just won't give away the only thing that stops their complete destruction. Those troops have amassed for a reason and I think Trump is contemplating doing something that carries incredible risk. Objectively, the naval power he has placed in the region would appear to serve two purposes: allow the land invasion of one or more islands and to also mitigate the projectile response from Iran. It is noteworthy neither of those two goals requires the destruction of Irans civil infrastructure (power plants, bridges).

A lot of people think Trump is looking for an off-ramp to the conflict, but I have my doubts he is seeking such. I also have my doubts Iran's regime is looking for an off-ramp either. I think people around them, their advisors and country allies on both sides are seeking such, but at heart, not the leadership (Trump and the the Iranian Leadership).
I suspect it would involve triggering a series of ground based threats and turning off the lights. If a lot of pieces move at once, it sets the stage for us to have a little littoral mission in the strait, while the regime gets swamped in a bunch of little dumpster fires. Undoubtedly mossad has some kind of friends in the country, there are also plenty of other little groups like the kurds and Azerbaijan who might be willing to light some fires, so long as everyone is doing it. If it's anything like that, it will be super risky all around, but could create the ideal conditions to nab an island and layer some defenses in the strait.
 
Big Marco is beginning to understand the incomprehensible arrogance of the European regime.
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NATO and individual countries not getting involved is their prerogative, but disallowing access to American bases and preventing even overflight is maddening. From what I can gather from Europeans online and statements from their politicians, they actually think American bases in Europe are there solely to protect Europe, as if that was a commandment from God himself. In fact, it’s treated like a sacred duty that Americans must put their necks on the line for their European betters.

They legitimately cannot wrap their heads around the fact that the US bases there with the understanding that the US provides a bulwark/security, with the expectation that the US can use said bases in US operations, whatever they may be.
 
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