Iran Crisis ∩ Trump Politics Mass Debates Thread

If someone is an American in this thread, no matter if love or hate Trump, why would any want the US to lose this conflict? Losing would signal that we can no longer defend the waterways and might call the confidence of the Dollar into question.
My spirit longs for the fall of the Atlantacist ZOG Reich and it's funny money to collapse and America can be a country again instead of a Satano-Talmudic empire, run by decrepit elites who eat Cheese pizza and hot dogs with walnut sauce that goes around blowing up kids.
There are a lot of Americans that take their comfortable way of life for granted and have no concept of that lifestyle being contingent on the success of the country.
Not all Americans are fatso boomers whose only concern is line go up so their investment portfolio and house(s) appreciate to perpetuate an artifical prosperity via petrodollar funbux, recieving increasingly expensive medical interventions until they gracelessly expire.
 
It's weird, Hulk. Every time a Democrat gets in office, they completely fuck up America's geostrategic agenda. Let in hundreds of millions of illegal immigrants. Fuck up the economy. And then the Republican gets blamed for for trying to fix the problem created by a Democrat.
FDRA help. Create the problem of the Communist Eastern Bloc because he was a closeted communist.
North Korea, again, another Democrat.
It's weird. It's almost like every geostrategic problem could be solved by just not electing Democrats ever again to any position of power in the United States.
Lol just the opposite, little guy. Democrats are better for the economy. Look at the economy now under your pedophile cult leader. Look at 2008 financial crisis when your neocon buddy George W Bush fucked up the economy.

And now we have the problem of Iran's mullahs having more popular support because warmongering neocons like you just had a hard-on for war. By the way, did you sign up for the military since you love this war so much? If not, why not?

It's gonna be funny watching you cope when the midterms are a disaster for your pedophile daddy
 
It literally took an F-15 getting shot down and a Total War deadline approaching for Trump to start pulling Biden levels of lid days.
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Fuck telling the media anything tbh. They're mostly rats. I bet if Trump told NATO he was going to hit Iran here's the exact time, they would have leaked it, the Spanish fag would probably tell Iran personally.
 
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Looks like Trump woke up about an hour ago, he's back to setting out SUPER SERIOUS deadlines
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His increase in Evangelicalposting is making some of his proclamations sound like the Iranian despots when they say "in the name of Allah, the Most Gracious, the Most Merciful"

The odds of him announcing that he's in SERIOUS DISCUSSIONS WITH THE IRANIAN REGIME and he's AGREED TO EXTEND THE DEADLINE have to be better than even money.
 
The waves of new posters to this thread - I don't care about what they post elsewhere, is certainly interesting but don't you dare notice!

It's one reason that I love this thread, it's mossad-propaganda whack-a-mole. As soon as one shill raises their heads, the regulars smash them into the fucking ground. It's refreshing to see that there's still some sane posters on this site that can see through the bullshit and hypocrisy.

God bless all of you.

Remember, their numbers are increasing because they’re getting increasingly nervous.
 
Europe since they want to impede the US

I have no love for the Eurofags and look forward to the day we leave NATO, but this is a braindead take. They're not impeding us by choosing not to participate in a stupid fucking war that they wanted no part of.

I think they are playing with his fear of a nuclear holocaust, really.

Honestly I thought the Epstein stuff was an exaggeration but now I'm startling to think maybe it really is just Mossad blackmail over Trump. Especially after he fired Bondi and replaced her with a guy who promptly said "we're done releasing Epstein files".

If he isn't being blackmailed by Israel over dirt in the Epstein files, he couldn't be doing more to make it look like it if he tried.
 
If someone is an American in this thread, no matter if love or hate Trump, why would any want the US to lose this conflict? Losing would signal that we can no longer defend the waterways and might call the confidence of the Dollar into question. Losing a war like this is different from Afghanistan because losing that didn't ultimately threaten our commitments, this is a different kettle of fish.

I'm not trying to be trite, but Trump did already say we won. So what exactly does winning or losing this war look like to you? Because I think that's where the confusion comes in, nobody can (seriously) describe what victory looks like. I mean, you'll get the keyboard warriors saying just glass the place, but as a serious question - what is a win to you? Why would we not consider it a win already based on what Trump has said?

Based on the rest of the thread, I don't expect a serious response, just a bunch of spergy fags posting indian content or MATI stickers on here, but if you really want an answer I'm happy to have a conversation as somebody who despises the rainbow turds on the left as much as I despise Trump and his current role as Chief Israeli Cock Swallower.

Every time a Democrat gets in office, they completely fuck up America's geostrategic agenda. Let in hundreds of millions of illegal immigrants. Fuck up the economy. And then the Republican gets blamed for for trying to fix the problem created by a Democrat.

I don't disagree about the shit job the Democrats have done, but can you please point me to the magical Republican president who has fixed things? Because when I look at the National debt over the last 30 years it just keeps going up and to the right, while disposable income for the average American keeps going in the wrong direction. I know the billionaires are going well, but I'm referring to the average American. So what are you referring to?
 
During the Suez Crisis, Ike sent a letter to his old pal Swede Hazlett laying out his understanding of the events and the corresponding Arab-Israel conflict. I keep coming back to the second paragraph in this image (Ike generally thought Truman's recognition of Israel was a huge mistake).

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No serious nuclear power is afraid of the samson option.
What do they have for hitting the US? That's on the other side of the planet. You'd need nuclear subs or some shit like that.
How many launch silos do they have? Can their storage facilities withstand a direct nuclear attack? Ukraine has some (legacy Soviet) missile storage, built deep enough to survive direct nuking. That by itself is no guarantee, though. First thing the RUAF did in '22 was pummel Ivano-Frankovsk-17 to collapse the shaft leading into the installation, just in case.
And nukes themselves can be intercepted, every nuclear-armed country has people monitoring the situation 24/7, launches and even nuclear tests get detected.
Do the chosen even have hypersonic missiles?

That shit was maybe scary in the previous century.
These days, places like Turkey or Iran can probably intercept whatever the jews throw at Europe, and it would be very much in their interest to do so, as they'll be able to say "look, we saved you from the crazed jews, we're not THAT bad!" in that scenario.
NATO probably has decent detection and interception hardware in Europe just in case of a nuclear war with Russia.
Russia has enough anti-nuke shit to cover itself AND half of Europe from potential nuclear attack.
And then Moscow has its own dedicated static ICBM interception array, in addition to the entire Big Boom Division being on high alert since '22.

Sorry, you guys can keep flinging shit, I dont wanna interrupt.
Just wanted to say that the Samson Option is bullshit that nobody should be afraid of.
How does one accomplish receiving the pink triangle within less than 3 weeks of joining.
We may not be on the same side but this man is MIGHTY, I kneel in respect.
 
The tone certainly changed

Nowhere as smug as 4 weeks ago and i'm all for it

Way less smug and more hysterical. I take no pleasure in MIGA taking L’s in this war because it almost always means another maimed or dead serviceman. But these troops are coming backed maimed or dead because idiots like them continue to support this president.
 
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By the way, did you sign up for the military since you love this war so much? If not, why not?
I wish, but I have a medical condition that disqualifies me from any military service even if there were a draft. Also as much as Donald's been a complete retard with this war, I think a war with Iran was inevitable regardless of a Democrat or Republican being in office. Maybe not in the 2020s, but it would've happened in the next decade or two. You might as well get it over with while Iran's at their weakest point diplomatically since the 1979 Revolution.

So far, their only allies in the region after the fall of Assad is a bunch of scattered Islamist proxies. All things considered, I think we've been doing alright despite Donald starting the war over what is likely ego reasons (Wanting to be seen as the liberator of the Iranian people after about 30,000 protesters were massacred).
 
Still waiting on Le monarchist uprising in Iran
no you dont see! They're waiting on ***THE CALL** from the foreskin in chief and they will MOBILIZE and do a HUNGER GAMES revolution

No serious nuclear power is afraid of the samson option.
What do they have for hitting the US? That's on the other side of the planet. You'd need nuclear subs or some shit like that.
How many launch silos do they have? Can their storage facilities withstand a direct nuclear attack? Ukraine has some (legacy Soviet) missile storage, built deep enough to survive direct nuking. That by itself is no guarantee, though. First thing the RUAF did in '22 was pummel Ivano-Frankovsk-17 to collapse the shaft leading into the installation, just in case.
And nukes themselves can be intercepted, every nuclear-armed country has people monitoring the situation 24/7, launches and even nuclear tests get detected.
Do the chosen even have hypersonic missiles?

That shit was maybe scary in the previous century.
These days, places like Turkey or Iran can probably intercept whatever the jews throw at Europe, and it would be very much in their interest to do so, as they'll be able to say "look, we saved you from the crazed jews, we're not THAT bad!" in that scenario.
NATO probably has decent detection and interception hardware in Europe just in case of a nuclear war with Russia.
Russia has enough anti-nuke shit to cover itself AND half of Europe from potential nuclear attack.
And then Moscow has its own dedicated static ICBM interception array, in addition to the entire Big Boom Division being on high alert since '22.

Sorry, you guys can keep flinging shit, I dont wanna interrupt.
Just wanted to say that the Samson Option is bullshit that nobody should be afraid of.

We may not be on the same side but this man is MIGHTY, I kneel in respect.

They have nuclear capable submarines, ICBMs and so on. Both can reach the US and Europe and if I had to guess since they've been so integrated in the western military machine they probably know exactly how to slip a few warheads through to wherever they need. They'd be obliterated after but they could do some damage with their ~200 warheads. Idk how many they have in silos vs how many are riding around on their subs but.. yeah
 
You know he's been probing factions within Iran with these kinds of statements and posts to see who will play ball or call his bluff right? Hes kind of like Lord Humungus from the road warrior standing outside the compound on his microphone. You can call it morally bankrupt but it's damn good warfighting and America is fundamentally ruled by a war chief. You dont have to watch, just know he does it for you.

Much like Lord Humongous, Trump is going to end up wasting a lot of men and material for a tanker full of sand.
 
no you dont see! They're waiting on ***THE CALL** from the foreskin in chief and they will MOBILIZE and do a HUNGER GAMES revolution
That's one nice thing about Shabbos, one can acknowledge the "Iranians will rise up and topple the regime" plan completely failed - leaving no real off-ramp - without getting replies from CTR insisting that the Iranians haven't risen up because the foreigners bombing them told them not do it yet.
 
you'll get the keyboard warriors saying just glass the place, but as a serious question - what is a win to you?
Why leave the regime to prostate massage the media and its own people with some horseshit about tolls and a couple jets going down when you can plunge them into darkness, blow up their oil refineries and fuck with their water supply, let's see them spin that as a win. I have no sympathy for the population, they can walk to Iraq.
 
If someone is an American in this thread, no matter if love or hate Trump, why would any want the US to lose this conflict? Losing would signal that we can no longer defend the waterways and might call the confidence of the Dollar into question. Losing a war like this is different from Afghanistan because losing that didn't ultimately threaten our commitments, this is a different kettle of fish.
Because there are people in this country with no loyalty to the nation and just want to see it crash and burn so they can give the ashes away to foreign brown people.
 
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