Iran Crisis ∩ Trump Politics Mass Debates Thread

Sorry that me pointing out that you are in a cult where you worship a literal obese old man who shits his pants has you so upset. Maybe you should come back to reality instead of claiming that Trump is a super intelligent, fit, hip, healthy, strong young man and see how fucking stupid this Iran war is. Oh, right, you neocons are warmongerers who love to see blood spilled in the middle east
Are you talking about Joe Biden or maybe, uh, you remember the Carter administration? You probably think Jimmy Carter was at the bees and ease of politicians even though. Almost every single geostrategic problem can be laid at the feet of that disgusting old pedophile peanut farmer.

Don't forget bingo bango bongo. Completely doing nothing. Why the Ukrainians were getting their asses handed to them in 2014 by the Russian military. It was actually Trump who's the only one who was willing to send them lethal aid. Bingo bango Bongo, being a closeted gay ways communist, was too busy destroying the fabric of the country. And getting pounded in the ass by his husband, Big Mike.
 
Of course, it's the three most pro-Iran countries that keep trying to mediate.
Everyone else in the Gulf knows there's zero point in even trying to get Iran to negotiate (as do these countries, but they hope that they can stall America/Israel by teasing some magic deal that's right around the corner).
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Hmm, didn't Trump said a similar thing yesterday? Not specifically about countires but that pilots wouldn't effect negotiations? Same with an Iran ex-whatever. Seems like they all want to negotiate.

I also read another article about Iran wanting to negotiate but it may just be a dream.
 
The best agreement is open the strait for everybody, except USA. This way miggers can't complain it's closed. They won't need the strait since they're rich anyways. Right @Hunter Hearst Helmsley?
I don't understand the question. Last I heard the US is the one who blocked the strait, why would they forbid themselves from crossing it?
 
I’m against US intervention in the Middle East but why would you actually be pro Hamas?
Same reason I'm pro snake.

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Are you talking about Joe Biden or maybe, uh, you remember the Carter administration? You probably think Jimmy Carter was at the bees and ease of politicians even though. Almost every single geostrategic problem can be laid at the feet of that disgusting old pedophile peanut farmer.

Don't forget bingo bango bongo. Completely doing nothing. Why the Ukrainians were getting their asses handed to them in 2014 by the Russian military. It was actually Trump who's the only one who was willing to send them lethal aid. Bingo bango Bongo, being a closeted gay ways communist, was too busy destroying the fabric of the country. And getting pounded in the ass by his husband, Big Mike.
Lol Jimmy Carter was a fat pedophile? What evidence is there that he's a pedophile? And he certainly wasn't fat. He was a shitty president, though. See, that's the difference between us. I can admit that Carter was a shitty president while you bend over backwards to defend everything that your cult leader Donald Trump does. It was hysterical how quickly you went from "no war with Iran!" to "WAR WITH IRAN GUD" and "No boots on the ground!" to "BOOTS ON THE GROUND GUD" all because your cult leader did it.

I know you're a MAGAloid who thinks that Donald Trump is the epitome of perfection and you've made your entire personality about how much you worship him, but he is a fat, warmongering, pants-shitting old man. Even though you repeatedly try and tell us how fit, hip, healthy, strong and young he is, reality is that he's not. You neocons just aren't coping well with the fact that your daddy's war is not going well at all.
 
Yep and now he's getting embarrassed because Iran is making our military look not so strong
Not to mention that in light of the situation, he's calling for the biggest defence budget increase since WWII, according to Fortune -

President Trump’s fiscal year 2027 budget proposal, released Friday, calls for boosting total defense funding to $1.5 trillion—a jump that most economists say would represent one of the largest budget increases in American history, rivaling the wartime mobilization of World War II.

The proposal would increase base defense discretionary spending by $251 billion and funnel an additional $350 billion into defense through a new reconciliation bill, while cutting nondefense discretionary spending by just $73 billion—a 10% reduction that budget watchdogs say falls far short of offsetting the military buildup. The net result, according to the nonpartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget (CRFB), is a defense expansion of more than $3.2 trillion over the next decade, adding fuel to a national debt already hovering around $39 trillion. “The gap between rhetoric and reality is just so massive,” said Steve Hanke, professor of applied economics at Johns Hopkins University. “MAGA was told an untruth by Trump—no foreign wars, no adventurism. Now the defense budget has come in at $1 trillion, and he wants $1.5 trillion. This is a massive militarization—completely the opposite of what he told his base.”

Kent Smetters, faculty director of the Penn Wharton Budget Model, said this isn’t quite the largest budget increase in U.S. history—just the largest in the past 80 years or so. The U.S. military budget request of $100 billion in 1943—the peak of World War II mobilization—is worth approximately $1.9 trillion in today’s dollars, by Smetters’s calculation and even more as a share of GDP. “The movement of $350 billion toward mandatory spending is pretty interesting,” Smetters added, flagging how the reconciliation maneuver structurally shifts the nature of the defense commitment in ways that make it harder to reverse.

I don't understand the question. Last I heard the US is the one who blocked the strait, why would they forbid themselves from crossing it?
That's a metonymy.

He gave me bruises = He gave me [a beating that left me with] bruises.
The pen is mightier than the sword = The pen [is capable of being used to communicate ideas that are] mightier than the sword [being used for violence]
Boots on the ground = [Soldiers wearing] boots on the ground [of a hostile nation]
The Whitehouse says... = [An official from the Executive Office of the US President, which is located in] The Whitehouse says...

There's not a single person on the Farms that thinks the US is physically obstructing the strait. That's not what "The US blocked the strait" means, it means [The predictable consequences of] the US [taking poorly thought through military action against Iran are than Iran] blocked the strait. i.e. that Iran would not have started blocking the strait if the US hadn't attacked them, and so it's America's fault for kicking the hornet's nest with no plan besides "maybe they'll just surrender once we kill their top brass".

This is an incredibly common figure of speech with a clear meaning, so pretending not to understand that just makes you sound like PhilosophyTube when he insists he's a biological woman because he identifies as a woman and he's not a robot, so he's biological. Or just like you're ESL.
 
That's a metonymy.

He gave me bruises = He gave me [a beating that left me with] bruises.
The pen is mightier than the sword = The pen [is capable of being used to communicate ideas that are] mightier than the sword [being used for violence]
Boots on the ground = [Soldiers wearing] boots on the ground [of a hostile nation]
The Whitehouse says... = [An official from the Executive Office of the US President, which is located in] The Whitehouse says...

There's not a single person on the Farms that thinks the US is physically obstructing the strait. That's not what "The US blocked the strait" means, it means [The predictable consequences of] the US [taking poorly thought through military action against Iran are than Iran] blocked the strait. i.e. that Iran would not have started blocking the strait if the US hadn't attacked them, and so it's America's fault for kicking the hornet's nest with no plan besides "maybe they'll just surrender once we kill their top brass".

This is an incredibly common figure of speech with a clear meaning, so pretending not to understand that just makes you sound like PhilosophyTube when he insists he's a biological woman because he identifies as a woman and he's not a robot, so he's biological. Or just like you're ESL.
Got it, so from now on we are all entirely clear: Iran is responsible for blocking the strait.
 
Got it, so from now on we are all entirely clear: Iran is responsible for blocking the strait.
It's America's fault the strait is blocked; Iran's the one blocking the strait. These are not contradictory statements. Arguments from semantics don't work well on people who've spent years dealing with TRAs, who use this exact tactic all the time.
 
It's America's fault the strait is blocked; Iran's the one blocking the strait. These are not contradictory statements.
Ahh right, just like the black dude stole the car and robbed the bank, but it's white people's fault. I keep forgetting only America and Israel have agency.
 
Ahh right, just like the black dude stole the car and robbed the bank, but it's white people's fault. I keep forgetting only America and Israel have agency.
This is more like a black dude trying to break into a car and seething that the person inside locked the door. Like yes you dumb fuck the person inside the car locked the door but you would never say it’s their fault they had to do it
never heard of that one, catholic charities is the big one that helps illegals.
Look at you local Catholic charities board lmao




All that’s left of MAGA is these 80iq retards huh
 
This is more like a black dude trying to break into a car and seething that the person inside locked the door

Look at you local Catholic charities board lmao
No, it's like the cops trying to break into the car because the black dude was murdering his family inside of it.
 
Trump says Happy Easter to the inbred retards who clearly never planned to make any sort of deal.
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This paper tiger posturing is some real BRICS country shit. "This is the FINAL red line! If you cross it we will be forced to take SEVERE action!" This is how they outwardly present themselves. Like a mother impotently counting down from 3 while her child is tearing the curtains off the wall.
 
Okay, it's like a rich, incredibly good looking bystander trying to break into the car because the black dude was murdering his family inside of it.
 
It doesn't matter. All of your logic is the same denial of agency leftists do with the same pathetic mentality. "it's not the fault of the rapists themselves (dindu nuffin), it's not the fault of the people who beg us to let them in (dey was good boyz), it's the fault of the people who did mean things to their countries and destabalized them (need mo money fo dem programs)".

If you retards were in charge Europe would have been colonized 800 times in the past 1000 years.
How is "I hate rapists and the people who support and facilitate them" equivalent to "It's not the fault of the rapists"?

When leftist billionaires fund leftist NGOs that supply leftist groups with bricks and riot gear to attack people at protests, do you only blame the individual who ends up throwing the brick? Or do you think that maybe the billionaires and NGOs had something to do with it as well?

I am getting so tired of that absolutely nonsensical "if you are not with jews, you are with the muslims" argument. No, actually, rabbi, you can be against two things at the same time.
 
huh. i wonder how they pulled this off. smuggled from Russia/China? would be pretty impressive to rebuild their air defense system while it's being decimated. Maybe they were just pretending to let everything be destroyed and now they're really ready to unleash pure persian fury upon the world.

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