Opinion Supreme Court may uphold birthright citizenship, but issue isn’t going away - With only two justices, Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito, showing themselves to be in the administration’s camp, there doesn’t seem to be a way that the executive order can survive.

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A U.S. Capitol Police officer steps in to calm tensions between a supporter of birthright citizenship and a pro-Trump demonstrator outside of the Supreme Court building.AP

By Ilya Shapiro
Published April 1, 2026, 8:10 p.m. ET

When President Trump left the courtroom midway through the argument in the case challenging his birthright-citizenship executive order, he was signaling what all of us following the argument were feeling: the administration was going to lose.

Of course, that was the conventional wisdom going in, which is probably why Trump has been so negative on the court, culminating in a Tuesday press conference where he announced that he’d come to the argument.

Trump’s presence was a big deal — the first time a sitting president has ever attended a Supreme Court argument — but it didn’t affect the argument.

It showed how important this case is to the president’s agenda, but his policy arguments in response to historic levels of illegal immigration and birth tourism, popular as they are, didn’t seem to change any justice’s vote.

Which isn’t to say that there were no surprises.

The smart bet going into the argument was that the court would take an “off-ramp” that would allow it to avoid deciding whether the 14th Amendment requires birthright citizenship for children of illegal aliens and temporary visitors.

The relevant provision states, “All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States” (emphasis added).

But it’s unclear what “jurisdiction” means, particularly given that neither illegal immigration nor birth tourism existed at the time of the 14th Amendment’s ratification in 1868.

There was thus much discussion of “allegiance” or “domicile” both technical legal terms that could shift depending on a person’s state of mind or intent to remain in the country (or not).

Legitimate disputes​

Those who claim that the administration’s legal arguments are frivolous or borne of xenophobic malice are simply wrong: These are hard questions and live disputes.

But regardless, it very much looks like the justices will bite the bullet and rule squarely on the constitutional issue.

For example, late in the ACLU’s argument for the challengers, Justice Brett Kavanaugh asked about a potential resolution on statutory grounds — that Trump’s executive order goes against existing law, implying Congress could change birthright citizenship rules — but there seemed to be little appetite for that kind of compromise.

Other key justices expressed significant skepticism of the administration’s position.

Chief Justice Roberts called Solicitor General John Sauer’s examples of historic exceptions to birthright citizenship “quirky.”

Justice Neil Gorsuch characterized Sauer’s supporting authorities as “Roman law,” while stumping Sauer — who otherwise performed better than the ACLU lawyer representing the challengers — with a question about whether Native Americans (who were made citizens by the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924) would still be citizens under his approach.

Justice Amy Coney Barrett said reinterpreting existing law and practice would be “messy in some applications.”

With only two justices, Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito, showing themselves to be in the administration’s camp, there doesn’t seem to be a way that the executive order can survive.

Splintered opinions​

But we could end up with a splintered decision, with plenty of concurrences on the finer points of ratification debates, precedent — especially Wong Kim Ark, the 1898 case granting citizenship to the children of noncitizen permanent residents — and statutory interpretation.

President Trump won’t like that at all, but it could be a winning issue for Republicans in the midterms, energizing not just the base but those many independents for whom immigration is a decisive issue.

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Ilya Shapiro, director of constitutional studies at the Manhattan Institute, writes the Shapiro’s Gavel newsletter.
 
What's the problem with banning birthright citizenship from only shitty countries like poor countries or countries who hate us like china? Who cares if some rich Aussie bitch shits out a baby in the states. Nobody wants the dirt poor mexican or ccp loving commie scamming citizenship for their hellspawns.
 
What's the problem with banning birthright citizenship from only shitty countries like poor countries or countries who hate us like china? Who cares if some rich Aussie bitch shits out a baby in the states. Nobody wants the dirt poor mexican or ccp loving commie scamming citizenship for their hellspawns.
The problem is white people shitting out babies legally and illegally ain't the ones voting for Democrat gibs&shit. Nor are they willing to work as slave labor for rinos and democrat.
 
Fuck it, pack the court.
This is the reason why Trump will lose on this. The SC has been handing him some victories here and there, but they have ruled against him as well, and notably have refrained from coming out and ruling that basically everything he does is legal, and there is a reason for this.

When Trump won, there were articles expounding on how lawfare was to be the main strategy of the Democrats for his entire Presidency, that they would drown him in lawsuits to stop his agenda.

It's been very effective. "Today a Federal Judge Ruled" has reversed or halted many of his polcies. Those rulings get appealed to the SC at a snail's pace. He wins a lot of them, but there is such a backlog, and damage is still being done in the meantime.

They give him some wins, but also big losses, like the tariffs. This way they can appear neutral. This is important because above all, they fear Congress passing laws for SC term limits and court packing.

They have no choice but to rule against him here. Magic Dirt and birth tourism with chain migration has become so de facto enshrined in America and such a plank of Democrat policy that it is a hill they will absolutely die on.

With all the recent problems Trump has had, especially the Iran War, there is little chance for the Republicans to win the mid terms. If the SC rules agaisnt birthright citizenship, the first thing a Democrat Congress will do is pass a law legalizing it, and the second thing they will do is add 8 more seats to the SC effective 2029, when they will presume they will have a Democrat President to appoint them, and the third thing is they'll put in term limits for the SC.

This will reduce the court to a state of powerlessness and the SC is absolutely terrified of that. So they will rule agaonst Trump, and the migrant caravans will start up again.

What's the problem with banning birthright citizenship from only shitty countries like poor countries or countries who hate us like china? Who cares if some rich Aussie bitch shits out a baby in the states. Nobody wants the dirt poor mexican or ccp loving commie scamming citizenship for their hellspawns.
Because that would be a layup for people saying anyone against open borders is simply racist and therefore their arguments are invalid.
 
The problem is white people shitting out babies legally and illegally ain't the ones voting for Democrat gibs&shit. Nor are they willing to work as slave labor for rinos and democrat.
I'm not convinced they vote at all. Aren't most mexicans catholic? It would be strange for them to vote for the pro choice crowd but they are retarded so...
 
It will be like the case involving DUI check points on roads. The courts said right from the start that they are blatantly unconstitutional...but are such a public good that we'll allow them. Or closed courts for divorces and child cases and sex abuse. Again, blatantly unconstitutional, but such a public good that we'll look the other way. They'll say birthright citizenship requires at least one legal parent, but it's just too convoluted of a mess to actually figure out exactly how far back we need to go to come up with a standard since you have some families with multiple generations of illegals in that case, so we'll just grandfather the lot of them in.
 
Trump's judge picks have been almost impressively awful. That man really is incredible at putting worthless traitors into positions of immense influence. This is, without irony, the thing that will decide if America becomes the next South Africa or not; a nation where any brown can come in, crap out a baby, then get de facto citizenship and begin leeching off of welfare, is a nation that is 100% guaranteed going to die. At that point, the only hope will be that things get bad enough that Whites rediscover their spines and begin a pogrom.

The SAVE Act would help somewhat, but I fundamentally do not believe it would matter in the long term considering that browns always vote against White interests, and there is no difference between a legal brown and an illegal brown in that regard. Just look at how hard Republicans have sucked off browns over the last decade to see how "effective" limiting it to the legal ones actually is.

Well, actually, it looks like the SC will be deciding that IS how it fucking works...
Only so long as Whites tolerate it. The courts can make their decisions, but they are not able to enforce them. This is as simple as Whites realizing that there is no political solution, and utilizing violence. I guarantee that things will have to get much worse before that gets considered, and seeing how Whites in South Africa just meekly surrendered to the packs of evil shitskins and their traitorous sycophants, I will not hold my breath for America.
 
The courts can make their decisions, but they are not able to enforce them
I don't think that's been tested yet, not on this scale.

As a totally hypothetical situation pulled from my butt:
The court rule against the executive here but Trump orders that anyone born on US soil without at least one US citizen as a parent is immediately stripped of their citizenship and they are to be deported to the country of their foreign born parents.

Would the US Marshals Service, as the organisation charged with enforcing the orders of federal courts, not be required to enforce this ruling by preventing deportations? It's not a direct analogy but the USMS provided security for black students when Southern states refused to desegregate schools. In that dispute the executive and the judicial branch were aligned, so perhaps it's useless as an example but I'm just thinking out loud.
 
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Liberals are fucking stupid. Birthright citizenship is for children of legal immigrants and the offspring of former slaves. You CANNOT show up on US soil illegally and shit out a kid to stay here. That's not how it fucking works.
I agree, but then maybe the retards who came up with the 14th Amendment should have thought about the consequences of their actions. It's a shitty amendment that is basically used by every shitty lawyer to justify every shitty legal argument they can think of.
 
And when they do, a good 75-90% of the most vocal Trump supporters will end themselves.
And that's a good thing. Shouldn't have invested your hopes in a retard that can't present a coherent argument to the courts and instead relies on flimsy EOs. Birthright citizenship is an outdated concept, but this is just about the most incompetent attempt at removing it which SCOTUS can clearly see through.
 
I don't think that's been tested yet, not on this scale.

As a totally hypothetical situation pulled from my butt:
The court rule against the executive here but Trump orders that anyone born on US soil without at least one US citizen as a parent is immediately stripped of their citizenship and they are to be deported to the country of their foreign born parents.

Would the US Marshals Service, as the organisation charged with enforcing the orders of federal courts, not be required to enforce this ruling by preventing deportations? It's not a direct analogy but the USMS provided security for black students when Southern states refuses to desegregate schools. In that dispute the executive and the judicial branch were aligned, so perhaps it's useless as an example but I'm just thinking out loud.
It's absolutely been tested on a nationwide scale. The SCOTUS has ruled that firearm storage requirements are illegal and onerous requirements, yet half the nation still has them in the law books, including the most populace states in the union. Court decisions only matter so long as someone has the will to enforce them, and if no one is willing to enforce them, then they do not matter. American right wingers have replaced their morality with legality, so they treat the courts as demigods that can not be challenged or questioned, but we could just as easily pull an Andrew Jackson (another famous case of it being tested on a nationwide scale) and say that the courts can come make us if they feel so strongly. Our opponents have proven this to be a very effective strategy.

Would the US Marshals Service not be charged with enforcing the SCOTUS decisions protecting gun ownership? I am not convinced there would be the will to send glowies to get shot by patriots to protect invading shitskins, but I suppose time would have to tell. The bigger question would be whether you could convince the giga cucked, self-loathing Whites to stand up for themselves, which I am not convinced of.
 
The SC is about to codify into law that the USA is an economic zone and not a nation.
All is lost. There is nothing we can do anymore to save America.

Only so long as Whites tolerate it. The courts can make their decisions, but they are not able to enforce them. This is as simple as Whites realizing that there is no political solution, and utilizing violence. I guarantee that things will have to get much worse before that gets considered, and seeing how Whites in South Africa just meekly surrendered to the packs of evil shitskins and their traitorous sycophants, I will not hold my breath for America.
It's time to abandon America, and all hope for the future. Whites will go extinct. It's all over.

The bigger question would be whether you could convince the giga cucked, self-loathing Whites to stand up for themselves, which I am not convinced of.
The white race is so cucked at this point that we might as well just assume that nothing of consequence will ever happen to the third world hordes following the Supreme Court's inevitable ruling.

The right is blackpilling into oblivion. There is nothing left after this, but an endless abyss of darkness and despair.
 
I mean, we can bitch about congress being unable to do anything all day but all it takes is 2/3rds of state legislatures to call a constitutional convention. This is not even particularly hard so long as Republicans have an actual desire to do this and aren't just showboating for votes.
 
I mean, we can bitch about congress being unable to do anything all day but all it takes is 2/3rds of state legislatures to call a constitutional convention. This is not even particularly hard so long as Republicans have an actual desire to do this and aren't just showboating for votes.
90% of Republicans are addicted to losing so don't expect this to ever happen. America will die before its 250th anniversary.
 
All is lost. There is nothing we can do anymore to save America.


It's time to abandon America, and all hope for the future. Whites will go extinct. It's all over.


The white race is so cucked at this point that we might as well just assume that nothing of consequence will ever happen to the third world hordes following the Supreme Court's inevitable ruling.

The right is blackpilling into oblivion. There is nothing left after this, but an endless abyss of darkness and despair.
God, I hate to engage with you, and I should know better...but...then what is YOUR plan? You doom and doom and pretend to be conservative or a Real Republican and say "it's all ogre now".

So what would you do to fix this? Who would you vote for? Rand Paul?
 
then what is YOUR plan?
If there was a legitimate plan for America past the inevitable transformation into an economic zone for third world hordes, someone would have come forward with one by now. There's a reason nobody has done that and the right is instead blackpilling into oblivion en masse. Everyone sees the writing on the wall.
 
God, I hate to engage with you, and I should know better...but...then what is YOUR plan? You doom and doom and pretend to be conservative or a Real Republican and say "it's all ogre now".

So what would you do to fix this? Who would you vote for? Rand Paul?
He’s obviously a Thomas Massie fanboy. He’s doing the long game for Massie 2028.
 
It's absolutely been tested on a nationwide scale. The SCOTUS has ruled that firearm storage requirements are illegal and onerous requirements, yet half the nation still has them in the law books, including the most populace states in the union.
Laws ruled unconstitutional are still in the text of the laws only in a literal sense. They're not enforceable and even in the bluest, gayest states they do not actually get enforced.

Consider Bruen.

The big example recently of states possibly resisting Supreme Court rulings isn't safe storage requirements, but Hawaii resisting Bruen with their faggy "aloha spirit" bullshit. But even then, the ruling was just that Hawaii's constitution doesn't guarantee individual carry. We don't have a good example of the primacy of the federal constitution being the ultimate law, both in theory and in practice, unraveling.

I'd like to see a Bruen based lawsuit in Hawaii fail and Trump's federal government fail to guarantee 2nd amendment rights in the aloha state before I'd get anywhere near catastrophizing about it.
 
If there was a legitimate plan for America past the inevitable transformation into an economic zone for third world hordes, someone would have come forward with one by now. There's a reason nobody has done that and the right is instead blackpilling into oblivion en masse. Everyone sees the writing on the wall.
So no plan? You are legitimately trying to convince everyone to drop out and not care about politics? IDGI
 
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