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I do have to agree with him, this is probably THE worst time for a draft. You got too many people believing they are going to die for Israel and the people on the other side cannot be anything other than cannon fodder due to incompetence and complete lack of disrespect for authority.
Its not that people "believe" they will be dying for Israel, its that they literally will be, if Boots are on the ground for Iran, its literally just for Israel's benifet.
Curbstomping Iran with bombs is great, but if we commit to regime change, and carving up Iran so Israel gets its Greater Israel.. well every death is just at their behest, which is expected, America is run, funded and cajooled by Zionists, none bigger than Trump, a man so dedicated to Jews he married all his kids off to them and palled around with them since he was like 10.
 
Its not that people "believe" they will be dying for Israel, its that they literally will be, if Boots are on the ground for Iran, its literally just for Israel's benifet.
Nigga you can't spell benefit, a LATIN ROOT WORD any person of European heritage should know, I'm not listening you to decide my national destiny.
 
holy potentially relevant history batman, yall ever heard of Kotong Island or the Mayaguez incident?

its insane reading considering all the talk about kharg island

in 1975 right after the fall of Saigon the then Khmer Rouge seized a US oil tanker in disputed maritime zone and took the crew hostage

we get together a hastily thrown together invasion of the island and here is the 4chan greentext of what happened

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>fotrunateson.wav
>8 helicopters and 600 marines headed to ram ranch
>"fuck where is the boat we are trying to save again?"
>"ohh shit they got guns"
>Boat, not on the island, crew had already been released
>38 killed 50 wounded 3 left behind
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Source

Ohh boy do I have a story to bring up next time I see my marine buddy LMAO, "so none left behind hu?"
 
Given that cavies are still bred for food in those regions, I'd say the Spanish conquistadors learned that grilled cavy is actually delicious.

If trump wanted to be a dick about it, he'd hit not the largest plants, but he smallest ones, to destroy Iran's ability to black start their power grid.

Wyoming literally doesn't exist. It's a sound stage in Montana.
Fixed that for you.
 
Orthodoxy also has the Hail Mary, but not quite the systematised Catholic rosary. Big difference between the Catholics and the Orthodox is that the Catholics invoke the imagination during prayer (kataphatic prayer, I believe is the proper term; I might be misspelling that), whilst the Orthodox invoke apophatic prayer. Kataphatic prayer is highly discouraged in Orthodoxy because using the imagination during prayer to say, envision one of the remembrances of the Theotokos, makes one highly prone to mistaking delusion for spiritual insight. "Hail Mary, full of grace, blessed art thou among women, blessed be the fruit of thy womb and thy Son Jesus" is stuff that's literally found in the Bible, if I'm not mistaken. The distinction with the Orthodox and their version is such that they do a 'remembrance' in silent contemplation without invoking the imagination.

I don't think you can really map kataphasis to the West and apophasis to the East like that - that they're both Greek words being the first clue. I have no doubt some sainted Orthodox theologian has written a 2000 word invective on kataphasis as a Western corruption, but Orthodox theologians since the 15th century or so are often more interested in being anti-Western than being consistent. That said, using words and icons are decidedly kataphatic.

Apophatic prayer has its origins in Plotinus' Ennead. To know The One, you must strip away all words, all images, all thought, and ascend to an ecstatic state of philosophical silence. This idea, which probably originated with Ammonius Sacas, the teacher of both Plotinus and Origen, spread like wildfire through Christianity.

For what it's worth, and to lay my biases bare, I think the humanist revolution of the 16th century made medieval religion completely obsolete. Concepts of linguistics, textual criticism, and historical analysis that grow out of that era make the beliefs, claims & practices of medieval religion, Eastern or Western, untenable. Catholicism tried to bury its head in the sand, while Orthodoxy just marched on, blithely unaware that new ways of thinking displaced the old ones. Newman tried to rescue Catholicism from the Middle Ages, and in doing so constructed perhaps the most intellectually dishonest form of Christianity still in practice today. I also haven't studied this stuff in around 15 years and regard arguing over the shambling zombies of medieval faiths as something akin to arguing about the Tolkien universe. It can be a fun exercise, but it's all fiction.
 
Sorry to interrupt all the theology posting, but I have some news. Turns out Trump wasn't bluffing and ICE will be deployed to airports starting Monday with Atlanta's Heartfield-Jackson international airport.
AP link/Archive
WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump’s decision to order federal immigration agents to U.S. airports to help with security during a budget impasse is drawing concerns that their presence may escalate tensions among air travelers frustrated over hourslong waits and screeners angry about missed paychecks.
Trump made clear on Sunday that he was going ahead with the plan to have immigration enforcement officers assist the Transportation Security Administration by guarding exit lanes or checking passenger IDs unless Democrats agreed to fund the Department of Homeland Security. Democrats are demanding major changes to federal immigration operations and showing no sign of backing down.
Hundreds of thousands of homeland security workers, including from the TSA, U.S. Secret Service and Coast Guard, have worked without pay since Congress failed to renew DHS funding last month.

“Bad idea,” said Sen. Lisa Murkowski, R-Alaska, about the new airport security plan, which Trump said would start Monday.

“What we need to do is, we need to get the DHS issues resolved, we need to get the TSA agents paid,” she told reporters at the Capitol, where the Senate held a rare weekend session. “Do you really want to have even additional tensions on top of what we are already facing?”

Senators advanced the nomination of Sen. Markwayne Mullin, R-Okla., to be Trump’s next homeland security secretary by a largely party-line vote, 54-37, with two Democrats joining most Republicans. A vote on the confirmation could come as early as Monday. Mullin has tried to make the case that he would be a steady hand after the tumultuous tenure of Kristi Noem, Trump’s first DHS secretary.
Border czar heads up airport security effort
White House border czar Tom Homan, named by Trump to lead the new airport security effort, has also been meeting with a bipartisan group of senators over the partial shutdown. While he characterized those sessions as “good conversations,” he said they were “not at a point yet where we’re in total agreement.”

Meanwhile, Homan said in Sunday news show interviews that the increased role of U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement at airports — its specific duties and numbers — was subject to discussions with the leadership of TSA and ICE. DHS spokeswoman Lauren Bis said “hundreds” of ICE officers would be deployed, but she would not disclose the airports where they would go, citing security reasons.

That was the case Sunday at Atlanta’s Hartsfield-Jackson International Airport. Some travelers waited in line for nearly six hours at the main security checkpoint, where only two TSA agents were on hand midafternoon to check IDs. Many missed their flights and scrambled to book later flights or add themselves to standby lists that were already dozens of names long.

Homan said immigration officers, as an example, could cover exits currently monitored by TSA agents, freeing them to work screening lines. Another option, he said, was having ICE agents check identification before people enter screenings areas.

“We’re going to be a force multiplier,” Homan said, while also acknowledging there were limits.
“I don’t see an ICE agent looking at an X-ray machine, because we’re not trained in that,” he said. He pledged to have “a plan by the end of today, where we’re sending -- what airports we’re starting with and where we’re sending them.”
But Everett Kelley, president of the American Federation of Government Employees, which represents more than 50,000 TSA employees, condemned Trump’s plan, saying in a statement that ICE agents are not trained or certified in aviation security.
“Our members at TSA have been showing up every day, without a paycheck, because they believe in the mission of keeping the flying public safe,” Kelley said Sunday. “They deserve to be paid, not replaced by untrained, armed agents who have shown how dangerous they can be.”

Democrats have said they are willing to fund TSA and most other parts of DHS as they press for changes to immigration operations after the deaths of two U.S. citizens at the hands of federal agents in Minneapolis during an immigration enforcement operation. ICE officers are largely being paid during the partial shutdown, thanks to an influx of cash from Trump’s big tax breaks bill last year.
“There are lots of ideas swirling right now,” said Senate Majority Leader John Thune, R-S.D. “The good news in all that is people realizing this has to get fixed, it has to get solved.”
As budget talks stayed behind closed doors Sunday, senators said they had few details of which airports or how many immigration officers were being dispatched. Some welcomed the effort.
“I don’t think it can hurt,” said Sen. Mike Rounds, R-S.D. “They can help relieve some of the pressure."

Trump said in a social media post that on Monday, “ICE will be going to airports to help our wonderful TSA Agents who have stayed on the job” despite the partial government shutdown. He further criticized Democrats.
Travelers at some airports worried about reaching their gates Sunday.
At Atlanta’s airport, lines wrapped from one end of the airport to the other.
The scene appeared more chaotic at John F. Kennedy International Airport in New York. Large crowds of anxious travelers piled toward security checkpoints, and TSA staff shouted through megaphones to tell people not to push one another.
For Transportation Secretary Sean Duffy, one concern is the uncertainty that passengers are facing over possible wait times at any airport on any given day.
“Do I have to come an hour and a half early? Do I have to come four hours early? They don’t know until the day of or the afternoon of their flight,” he said. “So if we can alleviate that, again, the president wants to take away that leverage point for Democrats and make travel easier for the American people.”
Homan appeared on CNN’s “State of the Union” and “Fox News Sunday,” while Duffy was interviewed on ABC’s “This Week.’ ___
Associated Press writers Collin Binkley in West Palm Beach, Fla., Anthony Izaguirre in Lindenhurst, N.Y., Yuki Iwamura in New York, Nicholas Riccardi in Denver, Kate Brumback in Atlanta, Margery Beck in Omaha, Neb. and Rebecca Santana in Washington contributed to this report.
In less than 24 hours we're hopefully going to see ICE personnel deployed in an international airport in Atlanta. Thoughts? Expatiations? There's the potential for a lot of seething over this. Also if all goes well it's a possible bargaining item to get the SAVE act passed.
 
Newman tried to rescue Catholicism from the Middle Ages, and in doing so constructed perhaps the most intellectually dishonest form of Christianity still in practice today. I also haven't studied this stuff in around 15 years and regard arguing over the shambling zombies of medieval faiths as something akin to arguing about the Tolkien universe. It can be a fun exercise, but it's all fiction.
So you worship the faith of TJ Kirk, the man who shoved a banana up his ass?
 
I can, I saw that it was misspelled on the spellchceker, and I simply chose not to fix it, I do it intentionally with every post to piss off the spellchecker faggots.
If you had said benrfit or benwfit I would believe you

But you had to alternate hands to type that "i"!
 
Airport ICE, now given the new acronym A'ICE, will blend seemlessly in with the fat black TSA agents and 4' fat mexican men. It will create 3 situations:

1) They do a simple good job and it makes people look at ICE in a better light, doing such a good job they just stay or incorporate TSA into them

2) They start apprehending way too many illegals flying around and it makes people NOTICE to an extent the dems cave just to get them out of the airports.

3) They Peretti so many unruly and/or retardedly drunk faggots the airports and flying feels like the 60's again, and do so at a level it reduces the dem voting bloc in a noticeable way. Sheeeeeiiiiiiiit.
 
Please just go to a church if you're curious. Not to be harsh on the Father, but I think I'm free to express how mortifying I find his online presence without it being sinful, but personally, I find the fact that this Father even does this, sort of big online presence to talk about scholastic soft science topics like anxiety and depression, frankly embarrassing. I don't think it's befitting a Palamist and you would never see this from a friar in a small Antiochene church. We're not self-help gurus. We're not evangelicals making apologetics to atheists. We keep the mysteries.

You say all of that, I'm not gonna contradict or undercut what you're saying, but Fr Paul Truebenbach's Catechism series was genuinely informative to me, as a non-Christian, who's curious about the subject. Especially the accompanying reading material. There really is something to say about terminally online Orthobros who are no better than tradcaths and terminally online evangelicals, but to that end? I find the Orthobro side marginally informative whereas the latter two are outright distasteful and disgusting to me.
 
Airport ICE, now given the new acronym A'ICE, will blend seemlessly in with the fat black TSA agents and 4' fat mexican men. It will create 3 situations:

1) They do a simple good job and it makes people look at ICE in a better light, doing such a good job they just stay or incorporate TSA into them

2) They start apprehending way too many illegals flying around and it makes people NOTICE to an extent the dems cave just to get them out of the airports.

3) They Peretti so many unruly and/or retardedly drunk faggots the airports and flying feels like the 60's again, and do so at a level it reduces the dem voting bloc in a noticeable way. Sheeeeeiiiiiiiit.
4) Some troon does a suicide bombing.
 
See? its working, fags like you cna't help yourself, you completely avoid the meat of the point or arguement and focus entirely on a mispelling.
Because what you're saying is obvious cope that doesn't align with what we expect kinematically from a typo. If I can't trust you to be honest about misspelling, what can I trust you on?
 
And this is supposed to make me sad?

No? Why the hell would you think that was the point? Personal-feelings-"morality" is bullshit for faggots.

The problem breaks down to two things:

1) Shit will cost more. This is a fact.

2) "I cannot afford anything anymore" or especially "I am starving" -> violence and instability and proxy wars in places where that happens.

We've just up fronts for the next generation of bullshit, be it Aloha Snackbar or CCP or whatever.

This wasn't planned out well. We're going to get GWOT 2.0 unless there's a Hail Mary. This means more wasted money, opportunity, and American lives.
 
In American crime news:
Kwan Trezvant stabbed a woman named Jamie Trumpp in the face while out on $5,000 bond for another crime. Kwan Noble Trezvant is a CAREER CRIMINAL with at least 4 arrests in the past 2 years. He was released from jail every time on little to no bond. It was an unprovoked attack.

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Jose Medina, a Venezuelan illegal, is accused of killing Sheridan Gorman ( 18 ) Thursday night in Chicago and is currently in custody. Sheridan Gorman, 18, was walking with friends at Tobey Prinz Beach, less than 1 mile from campus, around 1 a.m. Thursday. A male suspect approached the group on foot, took out a gun, and opened fire, police said. Gorman, shot in the head, was pronounced dead at the scene.

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