The enshittification of boomer things

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There's a lot of things that boomers and Gen X enjoyed that sort of died when millennials came of age and are seen as "irrelevant" or "dying".

My argument is not that these things are irrelevant (having predated the boomers) but are struggling because at some point they started to suck and the times they don't suck are when people pay attention, or at least would pay attention, with my three examples being movies, printed media, and brick-and-mortar stores.

Keep in mind that there's still other forces at play here like the undesirables moving in and causing either through their "culture" or crime to ruin such things, or the general gutting of the economy, but they've also gotten so much worse in spite of that, and in some cases, that's less relevant.

My first example is movie theaters. This should be pretty easy, a lot of them closed over the years and streaming is often fingered as the reason for why the movie theater experience isn't what it was, but if you look at the upcoming releases, they suck. Gone are the days of summer blockbusters and the big Christmas releases, where you could expect quality almost any time of the year. Plus, there's all that stuff about pre-buying tickets and having to pay additional fees, you can't just come in early and take a seat, it's a whole process. When you have a movie that people like and want to see, then people will come see it.

The last ten years have seen diversity hires and sequels to beloved franchises that not only were pretty crap but burned goodwill and retroactively made the franchise much worse for it. (Do I have to even list examples?) Make movies that people want to see and stop pandering to foreigners, they can make their own movies. (The top-grossing film worldwide of 2025 was Ne Zha 2, which was a movie for China, by China.) You gotta make your own films for your own people, trying to spread out too far means you'll be mediocre at best. A good example of a 2025 movie was A Minecraft Movie which was for Gen Z, and it did well because it was a movie that the zoomers actually enjoyed. I don't think zoomers have anything against the kinoplex, they just normally don't go because movies suck these days. Why would you want to visit cinema if all the movies suck?

Example 2: Printed media, specifically magazines and newspapers. I've been downloading and re-reading Nintendo Power magazines (I do have a print collection, missing maybe 50 issues or so but a good collection) and it's amazing what the magazine looked like in its glory days versus what it looked like in the last 6-7 years of its life. I know in this case magazines have to follow the trends of video games and the Wii era was not really the console where you needed strategies to beat the game, but it was stuff like that and stripping out everything else that made the magazine interesting ultimately doomed it.

But newspapers have no excuse. My local paper doesn't even print daily anymore, and when it does it's just newsletter-sized that prints whatever AP was printing. When I go back and look at the newspaper archives online (I have a subscription to newspapers.com) the difference is night and day. There's the normal AP news and syndicated columns, but there was a large sports section that talked about not only the local university team and the major leagues but also the high schools, too. There were comics (the larger papers like in Houston had 4-5 pages of the stuff), there was classifieds that actually were real classifieds and job listings, and applying to them meant it was probably read by a real person not discarded because a thousand Indians wrote fake résumés. There was local news, maybe reviewing a new restaurant in town and discussing which ones have closed. (Nowadays these are on fleeting Instagram pages and forums AT BEST). There were human interest columns with whole sections on outdoor living, food, television, local culture, everything.

These "extraneous" columns probably aren't the reason most people read newspapers but cutting them out has had some clearly disastrous end results.

The last one is brick-and-mortar stores. They say that everyone wants to buy things online these days and for some people that may be true but a large part of this is that people don't have the option of brick-and-mortar stores. In every retail bankruptcy, most of these stores went under because they had problems with the stores themselves. Stores were dirty, or overpriced, or had problems with missing inventory, or were full of things that no one wanted to buy. A lot of these stores that people have nostalgia for, including Toys R Us, Kmart, or Fry's Electronics, had major problems under the hood. I think with Amazon's propensity for shipping out damaged, used, or counterfeit goods, there is absolutely a market for these sorts of stores. In malls that are still alive, a lot of space is being taken up by direct-to-consumer stores where brands are sold directly to consumers, which builds brand loyalty but also creates a system where the people there know their product. For some brands they merchandise their stuff directly in larger stores (Swiffer products at the local supermarket) even if they don't operate stores directly.

The store problem follows the same problem:
1. Stores lose what attracted people in the first place.
2. People stop going to the store because it sucks.
3. "Analysts" see this as proof that people prefer the inferior option (Internet shopping).

Zoomers and millennials WILL return to newspapers, cinemas, and real stores but they aren't because they suck. I know that boomers got a lot of blame for ruining things but I'm pretty sure that these started sucking when Gen X started running things.
 
Cinemas are stuck with whatever the state of the movie industry is for better and for worse, newspapers as a business model have had an ongoing crisis with the rise of the Internet (classified ads have gone all digital these days, lots of ad revenue now goes to Google and Facebook and online ads often don't offset the loss in print revenue) and brick-and-mortar stores will always have a certain appeal but they need to know what they're doing since they have to compete with a platform like Amazon whose item purchasing process is quite convenient.
 
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There's also a bit thing of brand nostalgia, where big brands think they deserve your money just because they used to be popular, despite cheapening their product to the point it's terrible. Take Chef Boyardee for example. It used to be decent, but now 99% of it is garbage and you can only find the decent version by carefully reading the ingredients list to ensure "toasted breadcrumbs" isn't the second ingredient.

But all the boomers still go for the horrible slop because they are blinded by nostalgia.

Though recently KD has gotten slightly better, before they had horribly cheap noodles that were thinner then a paper straw but I recently got some from wholesale club that were a bit better. Not as good as 10 years ago but much better then 2 years ago
 
Years ago, there was an Alan Moore comic that featured the Wildcats Superman-analogue character Mr. Majestic along with small group of other super powered beings. The premise was that the universe was near the point of total entropy and that these beings were clinging to life by moving through space, trying to seek out little pockets of order before it was all consumed.

That's pretty much how I view popular culture in the U.S. right now: you seek out the worthwhile things before it is consumed by bland, milquetoast corporate slop.
 
These are symptoms not the issues. I hate when people blame modern culture/society etc for current problems and I see this thread as a good place to point this out.

Every restaurant serving bug paste that gives you the shits isn't "the modern culture" it's due to overt action against you. The people in charge want you dead, they want to eat your children, and they think it's funny. Chew on that and think again about why you can't afford a home for the first time since the founding.

It's the policy of basically every billionaire to make your life hell, one closed store at a time. It's not even for an end goal, they just hate you. Then some midwit Gen X or Boomer pseudointellectuals will come up with shit like the hard times circle. Don't believe your lying eyes, it's not like the entire economy was structured as a ponzi scheme to benefit the cannibal elite. It's like a cycle dude, just don't ask me to find a single example before 1900.

Of course the moment anyone even notices this all the old fucks rise up with torches to burn them at the stake. Sorry Gertrude and Dale, hard men create gay niggas or some shit, anyway enjoy starving to death while I cover myself in mud to hide my thermals from the Testla RapeBot 9000s you unleashed.

The world is measurably worse in every aspect from 1900. There is literally nowhere you can flee without being hunted by satellite, wifi location tracking, and literal poison in your already nutrient stripped food. Children cannot play outside and the education system is a form of institutional sexual abuse. We even have lesbian pastors now.

The boomer generation reduced the world to a system of incoherent digital chattel slavery and I'm supposed to feel glad about it because video games.

I'll circle back to the original point: yes everything's shit. It's shit because boomers were pampered as kids and never questioned the wealth they were given. An entire generation of niggers. We're in the literal worst times ever.
 
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Going to stores is an unpleasant experience due to all the third worlders that shouldn't be here.
That and it's often times more expensive and inconvenient. for perishables(what is usually sold at a net loss/breaking even), shopping in store is going to be cheaper but it's a toss up for non-perishables. My local grocery store is selling some protein bars for $22 while amazon is selling the same product but at $16. Another one would be electronics. If I go to a dedicated electronics store like best buy in person, i have no choice but to purchase what I want in a singular payment; with amazon, they'll happily let me split the transaction into multiple payments and they'll ship my item too.
E-commerce is making strides even in categories that recommend you be in person when purchasing, think clothing. Iirc, there's an E-commerce brand called "asket" that gives you instructions on how to measure your body shape and gives recommendations on the proper clothing size and length. Following the advice will get you properly fitting clothing without having to try anything on in person.
 
My local grocery store is selling some protein bars for $22 while amazon is selling the same product but at $16. Another one would be electronics. If I go to a dedicated electronics store like best buy in person, i have no choice but to purchase what I want in a singular payment; with amazon, they'll happily let me split the transaction into multiple payments and they'll ship my item too.
Feel like it all comes back to the same problem.

Things cost more because of the amount of theft retail stores experience now which comes back to the "lie, cheat, steal" crew. I don't expect real estate or labor really outweighs logistics and delivery costs especially for same day shipping.

And the financing thing, in Japan the big electronics chains like Yodobashi and Bic offer financing in store at checkout, I'd expect we don't have that at Best Buy because of untrustworthy people exploiting the system (although the last time I got a dishwasher from them they had financing). I remember Future Shop in Canada used to offer that kind of thing back when it still existed.
 
It's almost like all of these things became outdated and borderline pointless due to the internet.
I'm sorry, but you're wrong. That could've and might've been the case but the Internet is worse in every metric than it was 15 years ago, and at this point, most of what was there was done better by print media.

That and it's often times more expensive and inconvenient. for perishables(what is usually sold at a net loss/breaking even), shopping in store is going to be cheaper but it's a toss up for non-perishables. My local grocery store is selling some protein bars for $22 while amazon is selling the same product but at $16. Another one would be electronics. If I go to a dedicated electronics store like best buy in person, i have no choice but to purchase what I want in a singular payment; with amazon, they'll happily let me split the transaction into multiple payments and they'll ship my item too.
E-commerce is making strides even in categories that recommend you be in person when purchasing, think clothing. Iirc, there's an E-commerce brand called "asket" that gives you instructions on how to measure your body shape and gives recommendations on the proper clothing size and length. Following the advice will get you properly fitting clothing without having to try anything on in person.
In better days there were a dozen electronics chains to choose from and a bunch of catalog retailers. The fact that's there's ONLY really Walmart or Best Buy or what have you is an example of how bad things have gotten.
 
It seems like a boomer take in itself but I swear the world is just going downwards. You could get a job modelling shoddy 3D trees in the back of a Pixar movie; now you need to produce a 30 min AI-esque movie to become an unpaid intern kicked out the door 2 months later. We make video games that our PCs can't handle. No book made after 2010 is worth reading. Most music has become elevator background noise and we need subtitles in our movies because it's no longer televised theater.

Unlike other people here, I honestly feel more inclined to shop in-store. I walk past a table of discounted sweaters and think "Oh that one is nice"; I can try it and buy it and know it fits in 10 minutes. Online, you order 3 items in 2 sizes each and don't get charged until you send back the ones you don't want. Great!.. Except you need to pick up the package, try them, rebag them, do a bunch of shit in the app and send it off again. And they still charge you for the transport.
I view popular culture in the U.S. right now: you seek out the worthwhile things before it is consumed by bland, milquetoast corporate slop.
Like finding a new Discord with a concrete purpose and target demographic before they started adding 10 other channels and the original purpose is long gone and forgotten.
 
It cuts both ways. At the one side you have stores turning to shit. Someone worked at an audio hardware store. Loved to read the magazines and try to get customers the equipment that would perfectly fit them. If it were elderly people, he would offer to transport it to their home and set it up for them. Usually they would slip him some money for the help. People would come back because they trusted the store and got quality. Later it got bought by a chain store and the new management told him what products he had to push, usually the one that had the best margin. The new hires were all the cheapest teenagers they could find, no matter how little they knew of audio equipment.
At the other hand, at an electric bike store my father went to, they asked for money to give advice. They would subtract the cost if you bought a bike at their place. They did this because people came in, got free advice, then walked out and ordered the product online (the owner knew since people would come to him for repairs with the exact bikes he recommended).

And nowadays it is hard to know if a store sells quality goods. Those traditional mid range retailers used to always sell you decent quality for a decent price. But a few times I got a alibaba flipped product (or at least, the quality was similarly poor). If an electric kettle from my local retailer is just as likely to light my house on fire as one from alibaba, but costs 5x as much, I'll take the alibaba one. Which is a shame, I don't want a 300 euro goldplated premium kettle, and I also don't want a 5 euro fire hazard, but the 30 euro "works but doesn't try to kill you" option is gone.
Worst part is that online shopping is ruined too. Now you get flooded by dropshippers trying to earn "passive income" flipping temu shit.
 
Cinemas are stuck with whatever the state of the movie industry is for better and for worse, newspapers as a business model have had an ongoing crisis with the rise of the Internet (classified ads have gone all digital these days, lots of ad revenue now goes to Google and Facebook and online ads often don't offset the loss in print revenue) and brick-and-mortar stores will always have a certain appeal but they need to know what they're doing since they have to compete with a platform like Amazon whose item purchasing process is quite convenient.
all three of these categories of business have a huge advantage tailoring their business model to the local area but none of them ever do

everybody agrees that if local cinema was a place where they can watch old movies with their friends then they would go to the theaters. people would read the local newspaper if it wasn't just a syndication of USA Today. People would watch the news if it actually talked about local issues or had a local style instead of a bunch of plastic-surgery obsessed bozos trying to pretend they live in los angeles and do ACTION NEWS! People would go to brick and mortar stores if they actually had what they needed in stock instead of a bunch of empty shelves and tv screens.

i think this is the boomer problem people speak of - why the fuck are all of these things the exact same? that's why nobody engages with them. We all know the culture is different in Missouri and New York so why is the tapestry of all of this stuff designed to convince you that it is?
 
>sell your soul over drugs, emotionless sex, and demonic music
>chemically destroy the womb so you don't have to share with potential children
>destroy all foundations of knowledge and morality
>pave over all churches with eschatological death cults
>elect your worst enemies that you hate the most to occupy your country
>clap as they rip away the very foundation of currency and capital from your own country
>clap as they elevate subhumans to social superiority over you
>feed your entire economic output into the maw of your enemies
>take out loans against loans against your retirement accounts and the credit cards you opened in your children's names
>hoard worthless knick-knacks in paper houses like mentally ill rodents
>refuse to train and pay your children to maintain your country
>gatekeep and bully the few children who still want to be productive or contribute to society
>die gracelessly, gasping for air as you sink into the eternal darkness alone in a nursing home of uncaring niggers

The (Not So) Eternal Boomer
 
My home town movie theater closed down after all the local nogs started having gun battles in the parking lot
 
You're a bored consumer who misses the old ways of consuming things. How unique, how deep that is. You're like the cat in your profile photo. You have the milk on the table, but you won't lap it up because you want it in your bowl.
Fix your diet. Stop drinking milk and don't eat from troughs. Hunt your food instead. Create your meals. That means leaving Nintendo Power in the treefort you had in the 80s, and replacing it with useful books and writing.

It breaks my heart that people feel nostalgia for their old troughs.
 
You're a bored consumer who misses the old ways of consuming things. How unique, how deep that is. You're like the cat in your profile photo. You have the milk on the table, but you won't lap it up because you want it in your bowl.
Fix your diet. Stop drinking milk and don't eat from troughs. Hunt your food instead. Create your meals. That means leaving Nintendo Power in the treefort you had in the 80s, and replacing it with useful books and writing.

It breaks my heart that people feel nostalgia for their old troughs.
Keep seething, Indians will take over the world and genocide your worthless race and there's nothing you can do about it.
 
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