GPUs & CPUs & Enthusiast hardware: Questions, Discussion and fanboy slap-fights - Nvidia & AMD & Intel - Separe but Equal. Intel rides in the back of the bus.

[Betonhaus]

Has anyone here dared to order one of those Alibaba 2080TI's with 22gb of ram?

I did once order one of those $100 3060's of AliExpress. It never arrived and they tried to scam me with fake tracking info but I got my money back.

 

[Fcret]

SLI was the shit and it's a shame Nvidia hired whoever the total cocksucker is that decided to take it from us.

SLI was never good. In exchange for a fuckton more power usage+cost, absolutely atrocious 1% lows, and discernible input latency, you got... 20% extra frames on average.

Just buy a better GPU.

 

[Betonhaus]

 

[Curry Teafag]

SLI was never good. In exchange for a fuckton more power usage+cost, absolutely atrocious 1% lows, and discernible input latency, you got... 20% extra frames on average.

Just buy a better GPU.

The only time SLI was any good was with the 3dfx Voodoo II.

 

[The Ugly One]

SLI was never good. In exchange for a fuckton more power usage+cost, absolutely atrocious 1% lows, and discernible input latency, you got... 20% extra frames on average.

Just buy a better GPU.

Back when there was no such thing as "a better GPU," a Voodoo 2 in SLI was the bees knees for rich kids (I just played games in VGA mode).

 

[geckogoy]

Nooooo you're not supposed to encode details in a neural network and apply it to the scene using tensor cores! You're supposed to encode details in a bitmap and apply it to the scene with a TMU! My experience is ruined!

Bro its already next to impossible to enforce any kind of art direction with PBR, which is being forced on everyone already

Lets just throw a neural model on top of it to maximize games looking generic and uncanny/terrible with no redeeming qualities or way to fix it

 

[vinrock]

SLI was never good. In exchange for a fuckton more power usage+cost, absolutely atrocious 1% lows, and discernible input latency, you got... 20% extra frames on average.

Just buy a better GPU.

SLI gave buyers the choice to drop a smaller initial investment that can scale beyond flagship performance. I don't recall horrible 1% lows or input latency on any of the machines I've built, owned or put hands on. I've been building PC's since the 3Dfx era and my current rig is a 9950X3D/5090 for reference.

 

[StacticShock]

I did once order one of those $100 3060's of AliExpress. It never arrived and they tried to scam me with fake tracking info but I got my money back.

sus as fuck, this typa shit can only be ordered via alibaba/ebay because you order from the business that does the mod itself and aliexpress is B2C, although some chink sellers on alibaba try to rope you with 100$+ shipping costs, you need to ask through many sellers in there to find one that isn't a lying shit, which is rare because of chinkoid culture being shit.
which is funny because if chinks were honest they'd have more loyal customers.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Btw it's over

Tom's Hardware: SK Group chairman says memory chip shortage will last until 2030 — wafer supply trails demand by 20%

 

[The Ugly One]

Btw it's over

Tom's Hardware: SK Group chairman says memory chip shortage will last until 2030 — wafer supply trails demand by 20%

Mods please add react

 

[WelperHelper99]

Btw it's over

Tom's Hardware: SK Group chairman says memory chip shortage will last until 2030 — wafer supply trails demand by 20%

Glad I was on the last train out, holy shit I was lucky building my PC when I did

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole 2]

Btw it's over

Tom's Hardware: SK Group chairman says memory chip shortage will last until 2030 — wafer supply trails demand by 20%

I'm huffing copium while I'm writing that typewriters, calculators and graph paper aren't that bad and we will actually save money by not getting new computers.

 

[August Levasseur]

I'm huffing copium while I'm writing that typewriters, calculators and graph paper aren't that bad and we will actually save money by not getting new computers.

There’s a bunch of hippies in California that are trying to make a computer system that uses paper for all of its interfaces. It’s actually really cool. Link.

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

I'm huffing copium while I'm writing that typewriters, calculators and graph paper aren't that bad and we will actually save money by not getting new computers.

The Skylake-tier quad-core is enough of a PC for most people. Even the iGPU is fine for old games. You can build a credible gaming PC for around $200 with an old office PC, cheap used GPU, maybe extra DDR4/storage. Low profile options are generally bad or expensive, so you might want to find something that can fit full height.

Even older junk is still usable: https://www.youtube.com/@BudgetBuildsOfficial/videos

We've had the tariff scare, the RAMageddon, now Iran scare, and possibly the long-anticipated Taiwan invasion 2K27. Get what you need, keep an eye open for deals, and settle in.

 

[Smaug's Smokey Hole 2]

The Skylake-tier quad-core is enough of a PC for most people. Even the iGPU is fine for old games. You can build a credible gaming PC for around $200 with an old office PC, cheap used GPU, maybe extra DDR4/storage. Low profile options are generally bad or expensive, so you might want to find something that can fit full height.

Even older junk is still usable: https://www.youtube.com/@BudgetBuildsOfficial/videos

We've had the tariff scare, the RAMageddon, now Iran scare, and possibly the long-anticipated Taiwan invasion 2K27. Get what you need, keep an eye open for deals, and settle in.

No I'm talking about the change in RAM and SSD prices, not just for one, ten or a hundred computers but thousands of them for employees.

 

[/AMP/]

Btw it's over

Tom's Hardware: SK Group chairman says memory chip shortage will last until 2030 — wafer supply trails demand by 20%

I fucked my self over so badly by choosing to upgrade the RAM in my server as a last step didn't I?

Wonder if this will bring back the 16GB memory config as the most common one in gaming PCs, seems like 32GBs was the standard for so long
Prices are already 3x or more compared to what I spent last year, how long until we start looting prebuilt PCs for RAM like we did with GPUs?

 

[The Mass Shooter Ron Soye]

Wonder if this will bring back the 16GB memory config as the most common one in gaming PCs, seems like 32GBs was the standard for so long
Prices are already 3x or more compared to what I spent last year, how long until we start looting prebuilt PCs for RAM like we did with GPUs?

Steam Survey is an unreliable mess and maybe worse than ever, just look at the current Chinese edition with a sudden +18% swing for 32 GB RAM:

https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/Steam-Hardware-Software-Survey-Welcome-to-Steam (archive)


But in general it has tended to show 16 GB and 32 GB nearly neck to neck lately, with both around 39-40%: https://ghostarchive.org/archive/smR9j


With high DDR5 prices, maybe 16 GB will rise a little. It's even the amount of RAM in the Steam Machine. But I don't expect huge changes. Most new $1000+ PCs will have 32 GB DDR5, not 16 GB, not 24 GB.

We've already had stories like these posted in the thread:
Costco reportedly pulls RAM and GPUs from in-store prebuilt demo PCs to curb theft
South Korean design office hit by thief who only stole DDR5 memory
RAM is now on thieves’ shopping lists, but their memory for stealing is bad

 

[unaboomer]

Low profile options are generally bad or expensive, so you might want to find something that can fit full height.

The problem with corpy PCs is most of them have proprietary PSUs that lack PCIe power connectors, limiting the GPU to 75W regardless of form factor. In most cases, you're better off buying a standard ATX PC second hand if you want to do anything more than slap a $30 RX 550 in it and work within those limitations.

 

[Judge Dredd]

Is it worth buying up parts cheap now for when the AI bubble bursts?
I keep seeing the claim on YouTube that the price of other computer components are crashing, but I see no evidence of that. Given that my motherboard I'm using is technically a 5 year old model, I'm not against hording some motherboards and cpus, plus good PSUs are always useful.


While I'm posting might as well ask.
Are low end current GPUs worth it when compared to a 1060? Mainly av1 encoding and XP era games in an old machine,
What are the options when it comes to ultra cheap mini PCs/sff/sbcs these days? Are 2gb Raspberry Pis worth it?

 

[Pattern Juggler]

Is it worth buying up parts cheap now for when the AI bubble bursts?

What? Prices are inflated now, they'll go down when the bubble bursts.