Iran Crisis & the 2026 War between Iran and the United States, Gulf States, and Israel - Please focus on news and coverage, not argumentation.

Mike Johnson calls the guy who quit because of Iran a fucking retard who doesn't know what he's talking about.
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Meanwhile, Trump calls NATO a bunch of fucking losers whose shit doesn't work, and we don't need their impotent asses to save them from their own cowardice.
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> Asks for help from NATO
> NATO tells him to pound sand
> Pretends he didn't want their help in the first place :story:
 
You were saying earlier why the EU should help what made you do the 180 its going to affect the EU more than the U.S. in the long term here.
I did not fucking say the EU should help, when did I say that?, I was giving the rationale on why Europe wasn't helping.
Iran asked its allies Russia and China for help which probably means they're struggling and isn't going as well as they'd hoped.
Cause Russia is STILL bogged down in Ukraine, they didn't even offer any military support to Armenia when they were getting utterly raped by the Azerbaijanis in 2022, and that's a much smaller conflict in scale compared to whats happening in Iran, and China won't do shit because even Xi isn't sure if he can trust his own generals like he's Stalin (which is also why we are not going to see a Taiwan invasion anytime soon, possibly in the next 10 years)
Iranian airspace is mostly controlled by America which means that America is still possessing enough strength to disrupt the air WHICH MEANS that America hasn't been defeated yet.
I did not say America would ever be militarily defeated by Iran, especially not at this point, what they can do rendering strategic failures by holding down Hormuz for so long it actually starts fucking up the economy for real, or even the current IRGC regime just barely surviving would be a victory for the people in charge.
 
Europe knows the fastest way to end the crisis is to simply stop furthering Israeli geopolitical ambitions.
My memory is not so short term and my brain is not so rotted by groyperism that I can't remember Europe praising the US and Israel after midnight hammer.

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Europe is more than happy to support being a protectorate of the US. But they will wilt whenever asked to participate in the actions they know need to be done for their own good.
 
we wouldn't be talking about freeing up Hormuz if rising oil prices weren't a problem, the current admin knows their chances at surviving the midterms depend on if they manage to control the situation before November.
Yeah but this is the "watch ayatollah and goons get wrecked lol" thread.
Was this a poor idea if focusing solely on the midterms? Absolutely, if the iranian regime still stands by the end of this then even many of us who were elated to hear the Ayatollah died won't be too happy. Frankly, were I the president, I would have focused on forcing through more economic and political reforms upon Venezuela and spent all my political capitol bringing Cuba to its knees before November rolls around. (I think it a grave mistake for Trump to have not done more to endure himself to the Venezuelan diaspora because Venezuela needs all her people coming home if she is to be made a functional nation state again.) Bagging one anti-American government in the Western hemisphere, and with next to no American casualties, was a good thing. And adding Cuba to that list would have been great for the President and all his allies. And then around December I would have begun planning the Iranian operation. I think we should have done more to bring our gulf allies fully on board with our regime change aims, although I realize great efforts had been made already. Then again, Trump and co. might have feared the Democrats potentially blocking further military actions against Iran if they do gain control of the House and Senate in November.
 
Israel is the opposite due to the embedded Ashkenazi deep state that's slowly being killed
It’s interesting how tied the British and Askenazi deep states are. The biggest loser of this war besides the Iranian revolutionary government is probably the Yook and London specifically + the communist Askenazis. It’s a shame that they are filled with suicidal empathy and hatred towards the average people of their countries.
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He can’t and even if he tried then Trump would give Ukraine nuclear weapons out of spite. Cuba is under blockade and is in the process of surrendering unconditionally to America as we speak. They’re negotiating on terms right now and likely are going to become a us puppet state ruled by Florida.
The Euros throwing a shit fit and not letting us use the bases we pay for gives Trump a stronger case for snatching Greenland.
It really does. But honestly they can’t stop us even if they tried. We should just keep building olio our bases until we have actual control and theirs is all on paper. Plus we don’t have to worry about the costs of administration.
 
Just hallow out the NATO dude. Why even keep troops in EU at this point.
I'm pretty sure that can be arranged. US pulls troops out of EU, and also loses all of it's access to all its bases in Europe?

I'm pretty sure the latter is not something the US is going to be interested in, because that would effectively end their operations in the Middle-East.

It still boggles my mind that there are people here who think that US is having troops and bases in Europe just out of goodwill. If it was about that, Trump would've pulled the plug LONG TIME ago, during his first term. He doesn't, because US is dependent on those bases to run their global force projection.
 
My memory is not so short term and my brain is not so rotted by groyperism that I can't remember Europe praising the US and Israel after midnight hammer.

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Europe is more than happy to support being a protectorate of the US. But they will wilt whenever asked to participate in the actions they know need to be done for their own good.
They have the same viewpoint as me actually, I'm okay with Iran being bombed until it affects me personally (more expensive gas prices)
 
This is what needs to fucking happen. Hopefully Trump takes a step towards total NATO death here the coalition is fucking useless
I really think that the "help begging" is just to build a case to snatch Greenland away from the Danes.
>Look how useless our allies are. They beg us for help all the time like in Ukraine but when we just need them to keep shipping working they tell us to pound sand and try to keep us from using our bases that we pay for. That island you know, they tried to keep us from using and tried giving it away with a foolish deal but I got them to stop. Spain too, they didn't want us using their bases, we don't need them to fight, just stay out of our way and do some defense but who knows what da hell is wrong with them.
>Beautiful beautiful Greenland. They told us that we don't need Greenland because of our bases and their bases they'll happily let us use but look what they did to us when we destroyed Iran. They kept getting in our way trying to stop us from using the bases we pay for through NATO. Yah know I got them to pay 5% GDP for NATO and rebuilt our military.


I was really hoping for a Mexico invasion to kill all the cartel niggers but that seems like it's being relegated to spec ops working with the Latinx countries. If we invade Greenland then I'll reenlist since that will 100% involve invading Canada and raking them.
 
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I'm pretty sure that can be arranged. US pulls troops out of EU, and also loses all of it's access to all its bases in Europe?

I'm pretty sure the latter is not something the US is going to be interested in, because that would effectively end their operations in the Middle-East.
Its a win win for everyone.
 
I'm pretty sure that can be arranged. US pulls troops out of EU, and also loses all of it's access to all its bases in Europe?

I'm pretty sure the latter is not something the US is going to be interested in, because that would effectively end their operations in the Middle-East.
Alternatively: the US keeps all its troops in the EU, and also keeps all of its access to all its bases in Europe, but stops pretending to have any obligation to the Europeans.
 
Iran's proof (?) that Larijani is not dead - a handwritten note about martyrs:
"THE SUPREME LEADER'S MOTHER IS FAT, SO SO FAT, PEOPLE ARE SAYING EVEN FATTER THAN ROSIE CAN YOU BELIEVE IT, AND I ABSOLUTELY WOULD NOT GRAB HER BY THE PUSSY! THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION TO THIS MATTER! PRESIDENT DONALD J TRUMP"

Wow guys can you believe he actually said that
 
Just hallow out the NATO dude. Why even keep troops in EU at this point.
I'm pretty sure that can be arranged. US pulls troops out of EU, and also loses all of it's access to all its bases in Europe?

I'm pretty sure the latter is not something the US is going to be interested in, because that would effectively end their operations in the Middle-East.
just put them in Israel since they are such a loyal "ally" to us then, there, we don't need NATO and those whiny Europeans anymore whinging at our operations in the Near East.
 
I really think that the "help begging" is just to build a case to snatch Greenland away from the Danes.

I was really hoping for a Mexico invasion to kill all the cartel niggers but that seems like it's being relegated to spec ops working with the Latinx countries. If we invade Greenland then I'll reenlist since that will 100% involve invading Canada and raking them.
Trump needs to just set an ultimatum with the EU at this point either sit and take it like good little bitches or get out.
 
just put them in Israel since they are such a loyal "ally" to us then, there, we don't need NATO and those whiny Europeans anymore whinging at our operations in the Near East.
You and @Foley are looking at it wrong. Pull out, keep the bases, and put up a "Come and Take It" flag at every one if Europoor governments start crying. What are they gonna do, send the army to reclaim them? Oh wait we are the army!
 
What Trump doesn’t seem to get (or does but loathes) is that NATO is anti-Russia tool.

Europe is mostly ambivalent about the ME and will actively deepen ties with China.

Euros are idiots and should be left to fend for themselves. The only ‘major’ benefit at this point for us is that they freely share intelligence. But I’d rather us develop an arrangement where we have good intelligence relationships without as much commitment to being anti-Russia.

Cause Russia is STILL bogged down in Ukraine, they didn't even offer any military support to Armenia when they were getting utterly raped by the Azerbaijanis in 2022, and that's a much smaller conflict in scale compared to whats happening in Iran, and China won't do shit because even Xi isn't sure if he can trust his own generals like he's Stalin (which is also why we are not going to see a Taiwan invasion anytime soon, possibly in the next 10 years)
Russia will never directly engage with the US military unless they are attacked first. The idea that Iran had security guarantees from them (against the US) is laughable. Even more laughable that the Iranians thought they might get their involvement during this war.
 
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