US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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SCV dijo:
ICE's "current methods" are basically only in MN where the government there is actively encouraging the protesters to fuck with ICE and leftist groups are organizing using paid agitators.
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Leftoids ignore information which doesn't fit into their compartmentalized worldview. If something contradicts the message, they simply pretend it doesn't exist.

They argue to win and defend Democrat izzat, not from their real motives, which are typically something else: woman's rights, getting rid of Trump, redeeming the timmycel's sister on OnlyFans, etc. Whether or not immigrants are making the economy better is irrelevant, but it is essential to pretend they are, because they understand their utility as client voters subsidized by the taxpayer to vote Democrat.

As admitting this would look very bad, there is no real argument, only infowarfare, which is meant to circumvent debate. The goal isn't to persuade but to disrupt and present a false illusion of consensus, confusing the unaligned and causing them to turn to authority figures and the media. Hence why they invariably try to censor opposed political speech, since the free exchange of ideas hurts them far more than it does the right.

The modern left is more like a cartel than a political movement, and leftist states become gangster regimes for this reason.
 
JayseeDenton dijo:
You show up to a building and walk past a bunch of fat ladies trying to hand you pamphlets telling you who do vote for, there's also one cowboy looking guy with a jawline that could cut glass sitting in a lawn chair holding a vague sign about freedom. After saying "no thanks" 12 times you walk into a room where a bunch of fat black women with scowls that could kill a wasps nest hand you a piece of paper. You bubble in a bunch of shit then put the piece of paper into a machine.

Then you go home and watch on TV as the losing side pretends the world is ending, the winning side pretends the country is perfect again/still perfect, redditors shid and fard and cry no matter what the result was, 4chan makes memes, youtubers make money, and celebrities who have never done an honest day of work in their entire life pretend to be political experts. Then you watch as the leader of every foreign country makes some vague statement ranging from congratulations to caution to de-escalation.

European web users act superior, indian web users kiss the new leader's ass, chinese web users do everything they can to frame it in a way that this is a victory for china, muslims rant about some mohoma-fada-akbakabaka nonsense and bunch of people threaten to move but only to white countries.

It's honestly fucking exhausting.
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Also the next day you go back to work. Despite all of the screeching very little changes in your daily life over the next four years.
 
NoReturn dijo:
You always gotta wonder how much of this is purely performative. Like, how many of these do they ever really hand out?
The instagram post itself is way more helpful because people could save it to their phones.

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A couple weeks ago I saw a fat, dumpy looking woman in her 50s-60s put a bunch of those packed with whistles into a bowl in a local burrito/torta place. Then she walked up to a Hispanic teenager sitting nearby and solemnly gave him one like it was a gospel tract, because Hispanic=illegal.
Sensitive Young Man dijo:
Tucker Carlson says that “diversity is our strength”
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Turns out you can, in fact, cuck the Tuck, for the right price.
 
Corpun dijo:
I used to dislike the panican term but there really is no other word the call them by that is apt. If mainstream conservatives are slavishly loyal to 'losing with grace', the panicans are slavishly loyal to seeing everything as hopeless and that there isn't even a point doing anything anyways. Trump could deport every last illegal in the country and they would still bemoan how not enough has been done because the Democrats will just take over next election and they will all be back in the country on day 1 of President Newsom/Shapiro/whoever's term. It's a pathetic demoralization and they aren't even paid to do it.
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Doomers are annoying as hell sometimes but be honest, they're one of the few consistent sources of contrary opinion in this general, and sometimes they aren't wrong.

The reason some Republicans are starting to somewhat get off on the ICE train is you can't pretend that killing two US citizens in the same month for very suspicious reasons doesn't look good, ever, people have been protesting ICE since last year, but its only now that public opinion has started souring on them on a greater scale in the aftermath of these two incidents, the dissenting GOP are worried about their chances of staying in power, they're looking out for themselves first instead of towing the party line.
 
BigJoey41X dijo:
Doomers are annoying as hell sometimes but be honest, they're one of the few consistent sources of contrary opinion in this general, and sometimes they aren't wrong.

The reason some Republicans are starting to somewhat get off on the ICE train is you can't pretend that killing two US citizens in the same month for very suspicious reasons doesn't look good, ever, people have been protesting ICE since last year, but its only now that public opinion has started souring on them on a greater scale in the aftermath of these two incidents, the dissenting GOP are worried about their chances of staying in power, they're looking out for themselves first instead of towing the party line.
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Obviously you believe that killing ICE agents should be allowed. Go buy a sig p320
 
Jace on ice dijo:
I think it's really really funny how these types be like

"Omg how can these chuds be so mean to women and niggers? If only we could get rid of the mean (TM) politics and have the forum be exclusively about bullying retarded people until they kill themselves!"

I know self awareness isn't common with these people but imagine not being able to see the cognitive dissonance there.
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unfortunately this particular cognitive dissonance is simply being a normal human being. if you are capable of understanding that an order which protects free speech is absolutely incompatible with an order which protects you from being called a retarded whore nigger, you are not normal. There's never going to be a lot of us, it's pretty incredible that free speech has ever had actual legal protection with teeth.
 
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