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Should be a wild four years.

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Well, I'm coming from an attitude that if there's issues you need defense from, a pistol is most likely, then a rifle. If you're facing drones you're fucked indeed. I don't really foresee the US unleashing drones on people, but I guess it's possible and they'd be far far better than Russian ones.
its going to be a real "Samurais finding out about gunpowder" moment

Drones are cheaper than guns, easier to train someone to use, and often much safer for the user. 10 skilled drone operators can interdict anywhere from an armored collum to a battalion sized group all with minimal risk to themselves.

Its faggy and unfair but its the future of warfare. The baddest, coldest seal team has 0 defense except a shotgun and luck against a wired FPV drone attack, and once they know where you are from the first one, they just keep coming. they have thermal and nightvision. You cant jam the, cant disarm them, cant reason with them.

Anyway I said I wasent going to get us off topic Id just like to see the US kick up our drone investment like 20 million times more.
 
it's exactly what america kept telling them not to do, from the republican side. "don't leave yourselves bare to defend a group that cannot keep up this momentum without feeding it constantly." they didn't listen, and now two countries are eating their territories, from the west and the east. they were told not to disarm themselves, and they did so gleefully. fuck 'em.

To add insult to injury, all that weaponry they sent over to Ukraine was blown up by a cheap FPV drone that cost less than $600. I want Trump to take Greenland just to spite these faggots.
 
its going to be a real "Samurais finding out about gunpowder" moment

Drones are cheaper than guns, easier to train someone to use, and often much safer for the user. 10 skilled drone operators can interdict anywhere from an armored collum to a battalion sized group all with minimal risk to themselves.

Its faggy and unfair but its the future of warfare. The baddest, coldest seal team has 0 defense except a shotgun and luck against a wired FPV drone attack, and once they know where you are from the first one, they just keep coming. they have thermal and nightvision. You cant jam the, cant disarm them, cant reason with them.

Anyway I said I wasent going to get us off topic Id just like to see the US kick up our drone investment like 20 million times more.
It will be bomb the shit out of Iran or dont.
 
Update: The closest I've seen to violence at this Minneapolis protest on 1/15/26 at 2:15pm local Minnesota time:

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Two guys nearly kissing. Truly fucking gay.

Oh wait now some guy is trying to teach a singalong and it's a very lame song and nobody likes it.

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Somehow even more gayerer.
 
its going to be a real "Samurais finding out about gunpowder" moment

Drones are cheaper than guns, easier to train someone to use, and often much safer for the user. 10 skilled drone operators can interdict anywhere from an armored collum to a battalion sized group all with minimal risk to themselves.

Its faggy and unfair but its the future of warfare. The baddest, coldest seal team has 0 defense except a shotgun and luck against a wired FPV drone attack, and once they know where you are from the first one, they just keep coming. they have thermal and nightvision. You cant jam the, cant disarm them, cant reason with them.

Anyway I said I wasent going to get us off topic Id just like to see the US kick up our drone investment like 20 million times more.
On a general warfare, for now yes. They are a force multiplier for sure and have been for 20 years. Still a marine and a pistol and a rifle is the best. Or just having a pistol.

I wouldn't worry about US investment in drones or hypersonics at all. There's a lot of 'talk softly but carry a big stick' going on while the the rooskies and china are all show.
 
Seriously, Null got fucked over for. What again? Bashing trannies for awhile when it wasn't popular to do so? Phonebooking public data I guess? Priorities are all fucked up, and it's even worse in England where you'll be thrown in jail for wrongthink now.
Again the time for talk is over its better for the right to use other non-violent means of destroying the left. Debanking shitlibs would be nice start off with the most extreme ones. Maybe Hasan piker loses his bank account but more realistically going after the progressive activists is the better solution. Crypto still is a work around but at the end of the day these people talk a lot of shit with public and active bank accounts that can be leaned on.
 
Again the time for talk is over its better for the right to use other non-violent means of destroying the left. Debanking shitlibs would be nice start off with the most extreme ones. Maybe Hasan piker loses his bank account but more realistically going after the progressive activists is the better solution. Crypto still is a work around but at the end of the day these people talk a lot of shit with public and active bank accounts that can be leaned on.
Well, Hasan is so fucking rich it won't matter what happens to him bank-wise. Guy has so many multimillion houses and cars he's set for life and any gay kids he can have for generations. He's basically Gen Z howard stern with hundreds of millions all spread around.

He's the kind of rich where you go 'if you owe the bank $10k they own you, if you owe them $10b you own them'. Dude's unbreakable.
 
You cant jam the, cant disarm them, cant reason with them.

Anyway I said I wasent going to get us off topic Id just like to see the US kick up our drone investment like 20 million times more.
You're not wrong, it's just that we'll need that investment alongside rifles. Once you have rifles you don't ever drop them. Samurai had bows and swords, once gunpowder came you replace the bow with a musket then a rifle but you don't stop using bladed weapons forever. Shit, if you told me in 2012 that one of the biggest thing Ukrainians would need for modern warfare was picks and shovels for trenches I'd have laughed my dick off. But it's true. Especially in drone land. They hide in dugouts and shelters, man. With rifles.
 
Drones are cheaper than guns, easier to train someone to use
This is just wrong on its face studs. the only comment I will make about this is drones vs guns is just a silly argument to make. we arent' going to replace guns with drones, taht will not ever happen. Sure they are neat tech, and they add to other stuff we have but they are not gonna replace guns you silly goof!
 
Well, Hasan is so fucking rich it won't matter what happens to him bank-wise. Guy has so many multimillion houses and cars he's set for life and any gay kids he can have for generations. He's basically Gen Z howard stern with hundreds of millions all spread around.

He's the kind of rich where you go 'if you owe the bank $10k they own you, if you owe them $10b you own them'. Dude's unbreakable.
True but there are countless I mean countless of left wing activists and organizations that could have thier 501-c revoked, theres plenty of Anti ICE and portland antifa cells that could deserve to lower their funding like this administration if they're serious should lean on protesters bank accounts.
Again if the checks arent cut no one's protesting.
 
I saw some posters suggesting it would be most hilarious if Stancil gets taken out by an agent in defense of imported browns but honestly I think a far more hilarious outcome will be when he eventually pulls up on a random SUV doing this shit and instead of ICE it's a bunch of thug niggas on a drug run. Like this is exactly the type of retard behavior that may irk cops enough to ticket you but will absolutely get you shot by a nigger if you do it to the wrong car.
Only if the Will Stancil hood beating/him getting shot gets filmed
 
You're not wrong, it's just that we'll need that investment alongside rifles. Once you have rifles you don't ever drop them. Samurai had bows and swords, once gunpowder came you replace the bow with a musket then a rifle but you don't stop using bladed weapons forever. Shit, if you told me in 2012 that one of the biggest thing Ukrainians would need for modern warfare was picks and shovels for trenches I'd have laughed my dick off. But it's true. Especially in drone land. They hide in dugouts and shelters, man. With rifles.
The Russo-Ukranian conflict seems that it has proven the theory that the logical result of a relatively prolonged stalemate in a modern war is trench warfare which is what also happened in the Iran–Iraq War decades ago when two peer-to-peer adversaries went against each other for years.

It can also be concluded from the war in Eastern Europe that while drones are very useful and shouldn't be ignored, boots on the ground are still required to take ground and hold it. Compare the talk about drones to the 1930s military mindset of "the bomber will always get through" and see how reality proved otherwise when World War 2 happened.
 
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You're not wrong, it's just that we'll need that investment alongside rifles. Once you have rifles you don't ever drop them. Samurai had bows and swords, once gunpowder came you replace the bow with a musket then a rifle but you don't stop using bladed weapons forever. Shit, if you told me in 2012 that one of the biggest thing Ukrainians would need for modern warfare was picks and shovels for trenches I'd have laughed my dick off. But it's true. Especially in drone land. They hide in dugouts and shelters, man. With rifles.
This war is basically WW1 all over. They had artillery blasting all over. It's trench warfare. Drones aren't that much more effective than artillery barrages in the end, except for single hits. I mean yeah it's dramatic to see the drone close in and kill the guy walking around. But this isn't new. Ballistic artillery has been a factor for hundreds of years and moreso than drones.

IMO the main drone thing is making tanks and APCs more obsolete, but they already were with TOWs and Mavericks 40 years ago. The Soviets depended on invasion with thousands of BMPs in the 70s, but by the early 80s almost all would be taken out. That's why all the Davy Crockett and artillery nukes weren't needed, they didn't have a chance conventionally.
 
You're not wrong, it's just that we'll need that investment alongside rifles. Once you have rifles you don't ever drop them. Samurai had bows and swords, once gunpowder came you replace the bow with a musket then a rifle but you don't stop using bladed weapons forever. Shit, if you told me in 2012 that one of the biggest thing Ukrainians would need for modern warfare was picks and shovels for trenches I'd have laughed my dick off. But it's true. Especially in drone land. They hide in dugouts and shelters, man. With rifles.
Without air superiority, modern war is just trench warfare with some new toys. Neither side in Ukraine has had success with mobile combined arms operations and the RUAF has been largely limited to a tactical air support role. These failures are what led to the infantry being in the situation where low cost drones are so effective. Without air superiority, they have to hide their infantry in holes near the front to build up their numbers for a zerg rush. It's not a model to emulate.
 
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not arguing with build quality or anything like that

almost every account ive read 1st or reputable 3rd hand from the Ukraine/russia war is these guys all UNANIMOUSLY say they never see the enemy unless they are surrendering.

All you see is a drone or hear and artillery shell

there is no CQC there is no house to house, there is just getting close enough to call accurate indirect fire via artillery or drones.

Most front line guys carry shotguns and ride horses if you can believe it, modern war is fucking wild.
If you have a country whose official state operated ordinance company does stupid shit like cast a bolt that could be made cheaper from standard bar stock, which is to say it’s not the “cheap but efficient” option as much as it is the “we’re fucking retarded in nonsensical ways” option, then you can take that principle and hold it as something to consider in other places, like drone manufacturing.
 
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