Debate TES regulars about why the site's userbase had a political shift

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I have two takeaways from this thread, having surfed the highlighted posts.

1. People's individual political views are completely incomprehensible anymore.
2. Every political/ideological discussion on the Internet is retarded.

Wait, I've got another one.

3. The Facebook boomers have escaped containment.
It's more closely aligned to the idea reality has split into two parallel views of the world that are diametrically opposed to each other.

One side is MAGA who views Trump and his administration as a last desperate act to peacefully stop the Globohomo System from establishing a permanent totalitarian regime over the entire planet. They're in a complete survivor mode mentality and this is a war for survival.

The other side is Leftists and people who pretend to be moderate. The leftists consists of people who are grossly uninformed, or just plain out stupid, or directly benefit from Globohomo because they're evil. The moderates fall defacto in line with leftists at this point because not supporting Trump, automatically supports the Globohomo/WEF Regime regardless of whether that's their intention or not. Which is what happens when two party systems collapse and invert on themselves into a dual reality based order.

I'll use the Renee Goode situation as an example of what I mean. The moderate stance would typically be "Yeah she was doing dumb stuff, but the cops shouldn't have shot her". Which sounds like a perfectly reasonable stance on the surface. However, what they fail to realize is that by making this statement and having this sentiment, is they're also defacto saying to the people on the right "The ICE agent should've let her harm them" or "The ICE agent should've let her continue to impede their operations". Then, you get into this neverending game of inverse statements because the reality is, this original stance never made sense in the first place. Most moderates fail to consider the inverse of their viewpoints and what's implied with what they say. By saying they shouldn't have shot her, you engaged in a never ending logical feedback loop where you either are forced onto siding with ICE or forced to side with protestors because your original stance was misguided to begin with. Since nobody can admit they're wrong on the internet, you get moderates defacto getting grouped in with leftists as the only logical end result.

Disclaimer: I don't care what you think about Goode, I'm merely trying to explain a phenomenon about how two different stances on a situation interact and communicate. I don't care if you think she deserved to get shot or not, that wasn't the point of the above paragraph.

The other thing I notice a lot of leftists seem to fail to understand is just how fast the world around them is changing/has changed. The world almost KiwiFarms user grew up in is gone and it's never coming back. We live in what's probably the most well documented point in history, thus the craziest time in history. I don't think enough people really acknowledge just how much has changed in the past 10 years alone.
 
One side is MAGA who views Trump and his administration as a last desperate act to peacefully stop the Globohomo System from establishing a permanent totalitarian regime over the entire planet. They're in a complete survivor mode mentality and this is a war for survival.
I mean, the left has been in that headspace for years now as well. The lunacy is from two diametrically opposed freak shows who believe the other is on the verge of plunging the world into a totalitarian hellscape if they don't act NOW NOW NOW.

Hell, at this point listening to the far extremes of both, I'm genuinely beginning to wonder if they even want different things to begin with. Like, what's the right wing utopia? What is their mythical city on the hill based on what right-leaning people say is the best form of society? A close-knit, agrarian community where everyone works for the benefit of the whole and nobody wants for anything.

Nigger that's a fucking commune! I don't even get it anymore!
 
Nigger that's a fucking commune! I don't even get it anymore!
Yup, that's what happens when you get a split reality and a Uniparty corrupt government that wants it. Neither makes sense and you can't communicate with people in survivor mode. One thought process will emerge as dominant by any means necessary regardless of whether you want it or not.
 
Since nobody can admit they're wrong on the internet, you get moderates defacto getting grouped in with leftists as the only logical end result.

Nah, the problem is people are so obsessed about proving retards wrong that a proper discussion never happens. It happened in this thread.
Needing to prove so hard to make strangers wrong is pathetic.
 
Translation of all of the progressive kvetching here: "I wish Null would violate his principles and permaban everyone I disagree with, just like every other website does."

I get it. You totally love free speech and Null's mission statement for the site, but you just wish he would stop being such an incel chud and permaban everyone you don't like. Well, the problem with that is that nobody would ever trust Null ever again if he starts permabanning people he disagrees with or dislikes, so his personal disagreement with people doesn't really factor in. The only reason most people are here is because it's one of the few sites where you can shit talk anyone and not get silenced for it, and that's really refreshing for people who have been forced out of all of the mainstream internet for shit talking the wrong people. There are plenty of websites out there that cater to progressive sensibilities, but that isn't enough for you, because you need this site to also belong to you; at the end of the day, your ideology necessitates quashing all dissent and discussion at the source, because that's the only way that it can function.

Also, the fact that you faggots can openly shit talk the admin and insult him repeatedly shows me that he is still objectively better than every other admin in existence. You "people" permaban anyone and everyone at the slightest inclination of disagreement, but will shit on Null knowing full well he has principles and will allow it. On every other website that I have ever used, insulting the admin the way people are shit talking Null ITT would get you immediately banned, no questions asked, and yet you guys receive zero reprisal at all. My suggestion would be for all of you to fuck off to one of your progressive pissholes where you only hear party approved dogma and everyone who is even slightly critical of progressivism or its sacred cows is banned.

Besides, Null seems to hate most the right wing users on the site, and the few interactions I had with him were me getting a nasty reply from him in regards to something I said that he did not like. All he does is give us a containment corner and tell us to stay there, which is a damned sight better than other websites. And he gives you your own containment corners too! The main reason Null has "joined" with right wingers at all is because he has been subjected to the same bullshit the rest of us have, and it's hard to want to buddy up with progressives when they do everything they can to ruin your life because you laughed at a tranny. It's also a bad idea to reject right wingers when they are much more likely than progressives to actually take your side in spite of some disagreements here and there, as we can see with progressives seething at Null for letting people they disagree with post on here.
 
"I wish Null would violate his principles and permaban everyone I disagree with, just like every other website does."

Hey, man, if they want to act like retards, I want them to stay. It's entertaining.
As for right wingers taking my side in spite of disagreements,

Lol, hell no. I had the opposite happen more than once. In fact, they were extremely hostile and seemed to want to shut any hope of discussion.
 
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Pure faggotry.
You sound like a victim. "The mean weftist are shit talking dear feeder! Wahh!". You're not gonna make it.

I've stated before that I like null and appreciate that hes a free speech absolutist that allows people like me to say that magaloids should be put in camps without getting hit with a ban or timeout. I dont want anyone banned, I do want better features on the site that are more lolcow related and less political sperg related. But its whatever mods will feature whatever they want.
 
Hey, man, if they want to act like retards, I want them to stay. It's entertaining.
As for right wingers taking my side in spite of disagreements,

Lol, hell no. I had the opposite happen more than once. In fact, they were extremely hostile and seemed to want to shut any hope of discussion.
That line was very obviously in the context of taking Null's side on opposition to censorship and being censored. I would bet most of the right wingers that hate you would be disturbed and protest you being banned for saying something that Null did not like, much as they support Null despite Null disagreeing heavily with many of the opinions of the right wingers here.

I think the real reason right wingers were mean to you is because your approach to discourse is to pretend that you do not understand the point being made, thus making discourse impossible, as you just did here. A strategy which you clearly can not shelve even when we are ostensibly on the same side as far as this site goes. Which is what I meant when I said the right wing can typically stow disagreements for a higher level cause, but progressives have a tendency to go full "crabs in a bucket" over the slightest deviance and try to tear down everything over some minor ideological squabble.

You sound like a victim. "The mean weftist are shit talking dear feeder! Wahh!". You're not gonna make it.

I've stated before that I like null and appreciate that hes a free speech absolutist that allows people like me to say that magaloids should be put in camps without getting hit with a ban or timeout. I dont want anyone banned, I do want better features on the site that are more lolcow related and less political sperg related. But its whatever mods will feature whatever they want.
My point is that every other site admin would have banned users for half of the insults you guys threw at Null for not silencing your political opponents, and that you should be more grateful that he provides a platform for all of us to be autistic retards, even when users are total assholes to him. You can share your grievances and disagreements without being a cunt to the guy who is the only reason any of this exists.

Also, if you want certain kinds of changes, maybe try putting your money where your mouth is? I bet financially supporting Null would make him more inclined to consider your opinion than insulting him for not banning people. There's even a new policy for people who donate to nominate topics to be featured; you can be the change you want to see in the world!
 
Null should delete the entire website and start over with a BossmanJack thread.
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I think the real reason right wingers were mean to you is because your approach to discourse is to pretend that you do not understand the point being made, thus making discourse impossible, as you just did here

Maybe I actually didn't understand the point. We're all Autistic lol


Nah, I made a comment and some weirdo jumped on my ass like a psycho and started hounding and demanding answers from me like any weirdo hostile person does.

Some other guy got all hostile after I answered a question and then proceeded to make a random Tumblr style call-out in the thread to try to prove some weird point, which is ironic because so many people hate Tumblr.

But sure, make up shit you didn't see to make a point or win a dumb argument, lol.
 
A moment of silence for cokaine, TES poster who wanted to kill ice agents. May he rest in piss.


Maybe I actually didn't understand the point. We're all Autistic lol
Nah, I made a comment and some weirdo jumped on my ass like a psycho and started hounding and demanding answers from me like any weirdo hostile person does.

Maybe you are just completely useless and retarded. That checks out
 
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