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Should be a wild four years.

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Its very clear my opinion upsets EVERYONE
It's not that your opinion upsets everyone it's that 99% of Kiwifarms are turboautists so if you make blanket statements without doing research first (yes when someone shoots straight ahead of them and it enters straight through the windshield it means they were in front of the car) it rustles the jimmies of a lot of people

Tl;Dr we (or I suppose I can only really speak for myself) aren't mad at your opinion we're irritated you were being blatantly and proudly wrong

Her husband died like 4 years ago lmao, her new squeeze is a chick.
If there's one person I can trust about lesbian relationships, I imagine it's someone named @gaysexenjoyer
 
A human is getting ridiculed? On Kiwifarms? Come on now, that's too outlandish of a belief. Even for you.
I meant im only human as in, its very possible for me to have come to a dumb(in yalls opinion) conclusion genuinely. Its clearly not something people here wanna discuss and I get it.
 
The fun of posting on here is the community, coming back to the deluge of negative responses was more than enough for me to understand that if im going against the grain its better to keep it to myself, atleast in this instance. You guys break fatpacks you wont have any dissenting opinions anymore.
I haven't always been on the community's side in this thread, but it seems to all work out in the long run, because I don't incessantly try to force a point, page after page, that everyone else clearly rejects. Make a solid point one time, clarify if needed... but don't go back and forth for like 12 pages arguing about where cops were standing when we have like four different angles on video. That's the shit that annoys people
 
I haven't always been on the community's side in this thread, but it seems to all work out in the long run, because I don't incessantly try to force a point, page after page, that everyone else clearly rejects. Make a solid point one time, clarify if needed... but don't go back and forth for like 12 pages arguing about where cops were standing when we have like four different angles on video. That's the shit that annoys people
Heard, it was my fault, im just tryna make it clear im not trying to ride for the point anymore.

I dident change my mind, you guys just dont debate, you sealclub. Like I said though Ill drop it.
 
Its clearly not something people here wanna discuss and I get it.
You're not banned, and nobody is begging the jannies to ban you. Nobody's trying to phonebook you or, heaven forbid, trying to run you over with their SUV. We've been discussing it all day, we clearly don't have a problem with discussion of it. You're just upset that people reacted negatively to you when you called them bootlickers.
 
You're not banned, and nobody is begging the jannies to ban you. Nobody's trying to phonebook you or, heaven forbid, try to run you over with their SUV. We've been discussing it all day, we clearly don't have a problem with discussion of it. You're just upset that people reacted negatively to you when you called them bootlickers.
your right boss, now someone buy me a beer to show there is no hard feelings.

Some of yall never had to "adjust" your worldviews even temporarily to bang a fat bottomed leftist gymnast with daddy issues and it shows

the world is what you want it to be right?

maybe the woman was a mossad agent, who is to say

the driver was a menace and she needed to be stopped, im just glad no bystanders were hurt! Final answer lock it in.
 
I dident change my mind, you guys just dont debate, you sealclub.
The idea that "debate" is a real thing that happens is sort of an idealist fantasy. The reality is we form interaction ritual chains with the people whom we interact with a lot, and when somebody fucks with the ritual chain it causes everyone else distress. That's pretty much life as a social animal in the human race. Fortunately this forum has many threads, many communities. And life offline has even more!
 
No good person gets manipulated into being a political extremist. No good person can also be a commie regardless of whatever excuses YOU assign them. The proof of the pudding is in the eating. The proof of a character is the actions taken not the actions you suppose they coulda woulda shoulda.
I don't get this kind of argument. Do you think that the huge recent increase in rates of trooning is just because for some reason more women are being born into male bodies? Or...maybe it's a social contagion!

The broad mass of people in a country aren't particularly good, in any sense of the word. The influences they are under matter a lot. You should care about what psyops are shaping them because you have to live with them, and they vote. The awful retards could at least not be getting worked up into trying to blockade federal agents with their vehicles.

Edit: I think maybe the temptation to argue along those lines is that you don't want to excuse her or be seen as arguing she did not deserve her fate (and implicitly that the office was wrong to kill her). This is unnecessary, she reaped the consequences of her actions and got what she deserved because of what she did. But "criminal" (I couldn't think of a better term but this doesn't fit perfectly because she wasn't actually tried in court or even charged, perhaps "wrongdoer") is not some intrinsic identity, just because one can imagine her acting differently in a counterfactual world does nothing to absolve her.
 
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I don't get this kind of argument. Do you think that the huge recent increase in rates of trooning is just because for some reason more women are being born into male bodies? Or...maybe it's a social contagion!
Or you know the trooning out is just the social camouflage and without it they would just be regular creeps. Remove the trooning out and the kind off man that puts on a dress is the kind of man that regardless of social contagions would be a horrible person.
The broad mass of people in a country aren't particularly good, in any sense of the word. The influences they are under matter a lot. You should care about what psyops are shaping them because you have to live with them, and they vote. The awful retards could at least not be getting worked up into trying to blockade federal agents with their vehicles
Yet it's not one broad mass. It's multiple masses of different sizes and different beliefs, people self segregate into. A thin majority of people support deportations regardless of other committed crimes by the deportee. So the psy op is not really that powerful if half the nation disagrees. The reality is that the psyop matters little and instead people seek out to be part of like minded groups instead of being told to. Do you think this woman waited for the bat signal to attack feds or do you think she spent her entire life slowly rolling that snowball downhill?
 
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I don't get this kind of argument. Do you think that the huge recent increase in rates of trooning is just because for some reason more women are being born into male bodies? Or...maybe it's a social contagion!

The broad mass of people in a country aren't particularly good, in any sense of the word. The influences they are under matter a lot. You should care about what psyops are shaping them because you have to live with them, and they vote. The awful retards could at least not be getting worked up into trying to blockade federal agents with their vehicles.

Edit: I think maybe the temptation to argue along those lines is that you don't want to excuse her or be seen as arguing she did not deserve her fate (and implicitly that the office was wrong to kill her). This is unnecessary, she reaped the consequences of her actions and got what she deserved because of what she did. But "criminal" (I couldn't think of a better term but this doesn't fit perfectly because she wasn't actually tried in court or even charged, perhaps "wrongdoer") is not some intrinsic identity, just because one can imagine her acting differently in a counterfactual world does nothing to absolve her.
Who really cares at the end of the day? She ended up as a leftoid agitator who tried to kill an ICE agent to ensure that my children will grow up in a country overrun by barbarians that hate them and want them dead. The steps that led her to that fate are irrelevant to me. We can examine the cause of the social contagions and take steps to build a more perfect society once every last commie is dead, and their murderous pets are far, far away from me and mine. Until then, my sympathy will be reserved for people on my side.
 
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Imagine being a mom. Having kids to take care of, a dog; as much of a family as a lesbian could possibly wish for. And throwing it all away for... what? Hemorrhaging out on an airbag because you thought you were the main character of a Steven Spielberg #resistance film. When all you were really doing was blocking a road because the news made you angry.
This is what I have been thinking when I saw the Instagram profile.

People who keep saying 'they had no reason to shoot her, it's murder' should understand that if this woman aligned her 2 braincells for just one split second and complied with what the agents asked her to do, this would not have happened.

Genuine nigger-tier logic I should even say suicide by cop, they'll do anything and everything except that what the people with the guns ask you to do, multiple times at that.
 
I really do not see intentionally gunning her car into the ICE being her plan. Nor do I believe the pure copium I've seen on reddit that she was merely kindly making way for the officers.

A more realistic and charitable explanation might be: She sees the people her friends and news have been telling her are the SS reborn about to yank her out of her car, panics, tries to bolt without really caring if she hits the evil SS man. dies.

This is a profoundly stupid thing to do. but it places more blame on the constantly escalating "people who disagree with me are literally the embodiment of evil" messaging of the media/AI engagement tuned algos on social.
 
I don't understand this: Why is @Null getting so worked up over someone running for Governor of Ohio when he's a thousand miles away in Florida? He probably wouldn't want to even live in Ohio. He thinks he can take down the Republican Party in Ohio with this fantasy about Kiwifarms being his personal army? This is just plain bonkers.
Post hands.
He must be schizoing out or something, switching his opinions to the "BOTH SIDES ARE JEWISH" take after the BASED TRAD EAST got btfo'd
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Just like with Nick, the guy is looking for some out from his previous positions.

Ones that just happened to be failing right now.
Compartmentalization is key.
Whoa... are you asking and expecting a TDS-er to think about how crazy they seem IRL to other people?
 
The ICE shooting is Rittenhouse 2.0 where an ironclad proven self defense caught on video is gaslit away by progs. I don't see how anyone no matter how brainwashed can deny the proof before them than she was speeding toward an officer yet they are passing around the exact same video as vindication that it was unjustified because...I have no idea why. Either its bots stirring shit or we truly live in two separate universes.
Humans are very good at denying reality, and concocting any sort of justification, or explanation for something. A person with low iq, and unchecked mental illness, who has been sufficiently primed by trusted authority figures (media, politicians, friends and family), can be made to believe anything. Evidence of a thing can be manufactured, or real evidence can be presented in the right perspective to get people to draw the "right" conclusions. Just as that woman was out there after leftist brainwashing convinced her being gay, and harassing federal agents was good, so shall it convince many fools her death was murder. As is the entire purpose of the leftist media and propaganda complex.

But "criminal" (I couldn't think of a better term but this doesn't fit perfectly because she wasn't actually tried in court or even charged, perhaps "wrongdoer") is not some intrinsic identity, just because one can imagine her acting differently in a counterfactual world does nothing to absolve her.
She's a criminal because the ICE agent who shot her won't even be charged for doing so. Charging the agent implies the shoot is in question as to if it is a good justified one or not. Which logically means she was possibly innocent of any wrong doing. For her to be innocent, the agent has to be convicted of some wrongdoing (murder, manslaughter, etc...). Meaning his actions were unjustifiable because she was innocent. Given the agent won't be charged, we can safely assume she is criminal even without the formality of a trial. You don't have to be convicted in court to be a criminal if you are killed in the process of committing, or fleeing a crime by an officer or citizen. And yes it is possible the decision to not charge the agent is a political one, but given the clear evidence, I don't think that is the case.
 
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