Star Wars Griefing Thread (SPOILERS) - Safety off

At last, Midnight's Edge and all their ilk are proven right

It only took years and hundreds of videos
I'm sure they will find ways to make hundreds more videos about KK and how much she raped their childhoods or whatever. It were basically the same as the kiwitubers who obsess over retards for content, so I'm sure they will continue.
 
Too little, too late. Filoni can't save this ship no matter what he tries, and knowing him, whatever he tries will involve his orange baby
The difference between KK and Filoni is that KK is at least willing to take a gamble. The Last Jedi was a bad gamble, but Andor at least turned out favorably because of its critical success and uniting the fanbase, for a time. Filoni is just going to turn Star Wars into kiddy slop that will get old really fast, as his same mistakes in Rebels were evident in the Mandalorian and his other projects, where the morality was kid-level and most enemies were laughable jokes aside from a few.

In the world of advertizing, it's better to have something controversial that will get buzz, positive or negative, rather than boring, safe product that isn't even worth talking about. Because even if you get something really hated, at least people will hate-watch it to see if it's really that bad, whereas something that's mediocre won't get that much clicks or engagement at all.

And as Darth Traya once said, "Apathy is death."

I mean, look at what happened to Warhammer 40K. During the first Trump presidency, it was breaking out from the Tabletop scene, into the mainstream science fiction scene, due to years of glazing and promotion by the fans. Warhammer-mania exploded, all the way to the point where it climaxed in the form of a God-Emperor Trump float being paraded down the streets of Italy with an army of Space Marine cosplayers marching. This was especially fortuitous for them as Star Wars was slowly sinking into the muck after the failures of the Sequel Trilogy, so many fans of SW emigrated into 40K. But what did Games Workshop do with it? Almost nothing. GW didn't want to gamble by investing in a major media release, and the opportunity passed them by.

A few animations here, a few good games there, but no major media release other than the novels which they confirmed to be non-canon, so keeping up with the lore was useless when they just retcon things anyways, and with no major movie or TV show, Warhammer-mania slowly died. It soon went back to being the domain of miniature fans and lore nerds, with the casuals moving back to Star Wars, once the Mandalorian and Andor started making waves, so much of the Fandom diaspora came crawling back to SW.
 
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A few years ago I started The Clone Wars, I made it about 50 something episodes before I forgot I was watching it and so never watched any more. I have always had the intention to go back but started watching One Piece, so I never will have time.

I am not the most versed in Feloni, but I watched the Ashoka show. It wasn't bad, but it wasn't good but was kind of nothing. To me he kind of blew his audition to taking over live action Star Wars. I'd much rather Skeleton Crew Two than the follow up series.

I have more interest in rewatching The Book of Boba Fett than rewatching Ashoka. Which I'll have to do if I were to watch season two. My impression is that Feloni is less constrained as to what is Star Wars, what fits in the galaxy and what doesn't. It's more an everything goes, fantasy kind of view of it.
 
Worse, because Dave is even more uncreative and a total yes man. Reminder he backed to the hilt all the stupid shit the sequel films did, even if it was arguably due to wanting to be a toadie so his own stuff didn't get fucked with. This piece of shit cheered when Leia was made into retarded Mary Poppins who ruined the New Republic. He's the shit sucking faggot who supported Luke getting buck broken so he can write his fanfic about his OC based on Gandalf he stole from George.
So much this. Fuloni was out in force horking and clapping on command as the OT was gutted and raped. He was helping, so long as he got to cram his waifu into everything he could and ressurrect her via the space-time anus.

Reminder a lot of the stupider things and ideas from TCW were from him as well. And fucking reminder he didn't have the full show for that shit given he piggybacked off of George. Now in fairness, a lot of dumb shit in the first three seasons were George's fault too, he ain't blameless either. Both agreed to make Grievous and Dooku fucking retards.

But he got his ass carried hard by Lucas doing a lot of last minute lifting and due to him being autistically interested in his own setting.
So much of this.
He is a doofus and moron. Lucas liked him for whatever reason, and Lucas tard wrangled the fuck out of him so he has a massively undeserved rep.

Im still not happy that Leland Chee got sidelined as soon as Kennedy took over. He'd do a better job with the franchise than Filoni, at least I'd hope so.
Eh, its like it would have been that much better. Leland was also a wokeslorping yes-man, but at least made sure the woke-slurping was done with some semblance of a wider scale until he was made irrelevant.
Anyone who could check Kennedy cramming her girlboss self inserts into whatever had to go.
 
He is a doofus and moron. Lucas liked him for whatever reason, and Lucas tard wrangled the fuck out of him so he has a massively undeserved rep.
A lot of the more popular and well-loved stuff from TCW was all from Lucas. Making Ahsoka into Anakin's apprentice instead of Kenobi's. The decision to focus on Obi-Wan and Anakin instead of some random crew of misfit nobodies. The Malevolence was him aping the "Sinking the Bismarck" story. Cad Bane was something Lucas created out instead of Filoni just wanting to rehash Durge. Lucas bringing back Maul was him preparing a villain for the Sequel Trilogy.

Another example is Mandalore: the pacifist Mandalorians vs. Death Watch conflict that turned into the Mauldalorians was mostly Lucas; Lucas modeled Satine on how he made Padme, while the Death Watch was modeled after the Mandalorian Neo-Crusaders. Note how the "good" Mandalorians in Filoni's "Rebels" show were just cliche good guys in armor, not the fanatical warrior cult that the Death Watch (and Neo-Crusaders) had. If anything, Filoni's ideal Mandalorians was closer to Karen Traviss', minus the Jedi-bashing, since Filoni has Ahsoka and Bariss do that. We slowly see the non-Mauldalorian Mandos transform into that as TCW ended, with the pacifist Mandos disappearing into the mist.

When you look at how Filoni thinks, and what his original ideas were, TCW without Lucas is basically Rebels. Filoni focusing on his own crew of OC misfits, while bringing in SWEU characters like Inquisitors, Maul, and Thrawn as people they fight.

With how Rebels didn't have the same staying power and fan love as TCW, if Filoni was fully in charge, the show would've been forgettable and would've never had the star power it had in the fandom.
 
A lot of the more popular and well-loved stuff from TCW was all from Lucas. Making Ahsoka into Anakin's apprentice instead of Kenobi's. The decision to focus on Obi-Wan and Anakin instead of some random crew of misfit nobodies. The Malevolence was him aping the "Sinking the Bismarck" story. Cad Bane was something Lucas created out instead of Filoni just wanting to rehash Durge. Lucas bringing back Maul was him preparing a villain for the Sequel Trilogy.

Another example is Mandalore: the pacifist Mandalorians vs. Death Watch conflict that turned into the Mauldalorians was mostly Lucas; Lucas modeled Satine on how he made Padme, while the Death Watch was modeled after the Mandalorian Neo-Crusaders. Note how the "good" Mandalorians in Filoni's "Rebels" show were just cliche good guys in armor, not the fanatical warrior cult that the Death Watch (and Neo-Crusaders) had. If anything, Filoni's ideal Mandalorians was closer to Karen Traviss', minus the Jedi-bashing, since Filoni has Ahsoka and Bariss do that. We slowly see the non-Mauldalorian Mandos transform into that as TCW ended, with the pacifist Mandos disappearing into the mist.

When you look at how Filoni thinks, and what his original ideas were, TCW without Lucas is basically Rebels. Filoni focusing on his own crew of OC misfits, while bringing in SWEU characters like Inquisitors, Maul, and Thrawn as people they fight.

With how Rebels didn't have the same staying power and fan love as TCW, if Filoni was fully in charge, the show would've been forgettable and would've never had the star power it had in the fandom.
All of this goes to show how insipid the entirety of TCW was. Lucas or not. Genndy's show was better.
 
All of this goes to show how insipid the entirety of TCW was. Lucas or not. Genndy's show was better.
I would've settled for a show where both Lucas and Genndy were in the room. The scale of Genndy's show, with the character focus and ambition of TCW. I would've loved seeing an hour-long battle between the Mandalorian clans, or between the Nightsisters and the CIS, the same way the 2003 CW show did its massive battles in Muunlist, Dantooine, and Coruscant. Maybe even have the Malevolence show up in a massive space battle and eradicate dozens of Venators, making Anakin's victory over it all the more sweeter.

That, and imagine 2003 Grievous slaughtering the Nightsisters. Throw in some Rancors, while we're at it. Have him carve up those big lugs and serve Rancor steaks as dinner for Count Dooku.
 
Genndy's show was better.
I am not afraid to say it.
Genndy is overrated and the Genndy war episodes shorts are too short and ADD to tell more than the hint of a actual story. Genndy also has serious issues with scale especially given his 'no lines' art style.

None of this changes that his project is still the superior Clone Wars television series.
 
I would've settled for a show where both Lucas and Genndy were in the room. The scale of Genndy's show, with the character focus and ambition of TCW. I would've loved seeing an hour-long battle between the Mandalorian clans, or between the Nightsisters and the CIS, the same way the 2003 CW show did its massive battles in Muunlist, Dantooine, and Coruscant. Maybe even have the Malevolence show up in a massive space battle and eradicate dozens of Venators, making Anakin's victory over it all the more sweeter.
I'd have liked to have seen force characters like Sev'rance Tann, Sora Bulq, actual Aayla Secura, real Quinlan Vos and Tholme, oh and A'Sharad Hett.

Non force users like Null Arcs (better than bad batch), Rohlan Dyre, Garm Bel Iblis (introduction atleast) and Durge.

Some arcs that I woukd have liked would be rather than weirdo mando pacifists, a part 2 arc of Mandalorian Protectors/Super Commandos vs Death Watch, an arc for Mace Windu and Sora Bulq, there are more, but its been years since I've thought of this.

I am not afraid to say it.
Genndy is overrated and the Genndy war episodes shorts are too short and ADD to tell more than the hint of a actual story. Genndy also has serious issues with scale especially given his 'no lines' art style.

None of this changes that his project is still the superior Clone Wars television series.

Its a case of less is more. There is plenty of story and even character development. Ill give you that the episodes were too short, but otherwise it captured Star Wars way better thatn the TCW. I thought the art style was great, but then again I was always a big fan of Samurai Jack,
 
I am not afraid to say it.
Genndy is overrated and the Genndy war episodes shorts are too short and ADD to tell more than the hint of a actual story. Genndy also has serious issues with scale especially given his 'no lines' art style.

None of this changes that his project is still the superior Clone Wars television series.
There is no issue with scale. Genndy was just depicting what the books, novels, and comics at the time were saying about the Clone Wars.

I'd have liked to have seen force characters like Sev'rance Tann, Sora Bulq, actual Aayla Secura, real Quinlan Vos and Tholme, oh and A'Sharad Hett.
Tann died fighting Echuu-Shen Jon. The others, they could work.

Non force users like Null Arcs (better than bad batch), Rohlan Dyre, Garm Bel Iblis (introduction atleast) and Durge.
That would work; I'd love an arc with Garm showing up with his fleet to save the day, but he still bitches at Palpatine in the Senate, which would earn him Anakin's ire. As for the Null Arcs, they'd be very in touch with their inner war criminal, and I can see them and Anakin doing some really fucked-up shit towards non-droid Seps when the Jedi Council aren't looking.

Some arcs that I woukd have liked would be rather than weirdo mando pacifists, a part 2 arc of Mandalorian Protectors/Super Commandos vs Death Watch, an arc for Mace Windu and Sora Bulq, there are more, but its been years since I've thought of this.
The Mando Pacifists kind of made sense because the Death Watch and True Mandalorians fought each other to near-oblivion. That, and the Mandalorian Protectors just seemed like Traviss wanting to have her cake and eat it too. I'd prefer the Death Watch be as strong as their Neo-Crusader ancestors running around killing Jedi and Separatist forces alike, as a sort of wild-card force that scares the shit out of both sides.
 
Tann died fighting Echuu-Shen Jon. The others, they could work.
Oh I know, but unless Im retarded, that happened during the beginning phases of the Clone Wars right? Could have been a good side arc.
That would work; I'd love an arc with Garm showing up with his fleet to save the day, but he still bitches at Palpatine in the Senate, which would earn him Anakin's ire. As for the Null Arcs, they'd be very in touch with their inner war criminal, and I can see them and Anakin doing some really fucked-up shit towards non-droid Seps when the Jedi Council aren't looking.
Yeah, I dont mind Saw Gerrera, but I never thought he was a good replacement for Garm. Should have had both in the show.

Agreed on the Nulls with Anakin.
The Mando Pacifists kind of made sense because the Death Watch and True Mandalorians fought each other to near-oblivion. That, and the Mandalorian Protectors just seemed like Traviss wanting to have her cake and eat it too. I'd prefer the Death Watch be as strong as their Neo-Crusader ancestors running around killing Jedi and Separatist forces alike, as a sort of wild-card force that scares the shit out of both sides.
Am I crazy? I thought the protectors were the True Mandalorians. Im pretty sure they existed pre Traviss. Want Jango a protector at one point? I seem to recall a Jaster Mereel being a journeyman protector or something. Could be wrong. I know Dooku and other Jedi killed alot of Mandalorians, but if they were going to bring back the Deathwatch, they could have brought back the Protectors and had the Pacifists as a third faction.
 
Am I crazy? I thought the protectors were the True Mandalorians. Im pretty sure they existed pre Traviss. Want Jango a protector at one point? I seem to recall a Jaster Mereel being a journeyman protector or something. Could be wrong. I know Dooku and other Jedi killed alot of Mandalorians, but if they were going to bring back the Deathwatch, they could have brought back the Protectors and had the Pacifists as a third faction.
The True Mandalorians died fighting the Jedi before the Mandalorian Protectors showed up.

Agreed on the Nulls with Anakin.
They would get along so well, it'd be great.

I'd have made Rex a Null-ARC, if it were me in the writing room.

Oh I know, but unless Im retarded, that happened during the beginning phases of the Clone Wars right? Could have been a good side arc.
Yep. Tann died early into the Clone Wars, and they had to replace her with Grievous.
 
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