Young women are radicalising - Britain’s young women are sad, alienated and increasingly left-wing - The bush of Feminism bears bitter poisonous fruit.

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By Scarlett Maguire

Over the past decade we have had countless opinion pieces, documentaries and dramas about dangerously disenfranchised young men, with much discussion about why they’re moving to the populist right. Frustrated and overly online young men are widely seen to be the drivers of a quiet revolution that has been taking place in youth politics: the widening gender gap. Yet not enough thought has been given to young women’s much greater movement in the opposite direction. It might not be too surprising that women’s political preferences get less attention than men’s, but that does not mean they are any less significant.

Many have noted that at the last general election young (18- to 24-year-old) men were twice as likely as young women to vote Reform, while young women were twice as likely to vote Green as young men. There was also extensive coverage given to the signs of Gen Z men backing Nigel Farage. What these observations fail to take into account is that, in fact, a smaller percentage of young men voted for Reform (12 per cent) than the general population (14.3 per cent). Actually, 18- to 24-year-old men were far less likely to have voted for Farage than every other age cohort of men, and young men were still overwhelmingly more likely to vote for left-wing or liberal parties (68 per cent voted Labour, Lib Dem or Green) than they were for a right-wing party (22 per cent voted Conservative or Reform). If voting for a populist right party is indicative of a more radical mindset, then by this metric young men were some of the least radical demographic groups of the whole country.

The 2024 voting patterns of young women tell a very different story. Nearly one in four (23 per cent) of 18- to 24-year-old women voted for the Green Party at the last general election,
compared to just 6.7 per cent of the general population (12 per cent of young men voted for the Greens). Greens performed far better with young women than with any other key demographic (just 10 per cent of 25- to 49-year-old women voted Green, and only 4 per cent of 50- to 64-year-olds). In last year’s general election, young women moved to the populist left considerably more than young men moved to the populist right.

Current voting intention polls show these trends not only persisting but becoming more pronounced. Recent data from More In Common shows that one in three (33 per cent) of young women now say they will vote for the Green Party. Meanwhile, young men, far from being more right wing than the population as a whole, are as likely to vote Green as they are Reform (20 per cent) with Reform still significantly underperforming with under 25 males relative to other age groups.

In fact, the UK is not alone in seeing young women move increasingly to the left. Recent elections in the US, Germany and Portugal all show similar movements between the sexes.

In previous decades young women were actually more likely to vote Conservative than men. However, this trend started reversing in 2015, primarily driven by the younger end of the electorate. In 2019, 18- to 25-year-old women voted for Jeremy Corbyn at more than double the rate of the general population (65 per cent to 32.1 per cent), dwarfing the still considerable 46 per cent of young men who did the same. What over the past decade has caused young women to lurch so dramatically to the left?

I recently recorded a documentary for Radio 4 with Gaby Hinsliffe exploring some potential explanations as to why women are moving dramatically to the left. We discussed the idea that there might be more to the change than conventional party politics. Strikingly, the majority of young people do not identify as either right- or left-wing. Instead, young women see their politics as flowing from their deeply held progressive personal values, which they increasingly think are at odds with the country they see around them.

Britain’s young women seem to feel more alienated from their country than their male peers, and are more likely to think that the country is treating them unfairly compared to older generations (men marginally disagree with the statement, women agree 55 per cent to 37 per cent). Young women feel less connected to their country than young men and are 21 points more likely to think that the country is racist than young men (58 per cent to 37 per cent). Only a minority (31 per cent) say they take pride in being British (compared to 51 per cent of men the same age) and only 38 per cent believe Britain is a tolerant nation (56 per cent of young men think the same).

In fact, young women are not just pessimistic about the country’s culture, but the country’s economy too. It makes sense, with sky-high rental prices, a hardening graduates job market, and years of stagnated living standards, that Gen Z would feel worse about the economy than average. What is less clear is why young women are the most pessimistic group when it comes to the UK economy, with an astonishingly low net economic optimism score of -57 (18 points worse than men of that age group). Perhaps this is why younger women are much more likely to place prices for food and energy bills and housing affordability in their top issues than young men, although it does not fully explain their political priorities. One in three (31 cent) of 16- to 25-year-old women say the conflict in Gaza is in their top three issues, placing it above things like taxes and immigration (just 22 per cent of young men say the same).

Again, it is not immediately obvious why young women would report feeling more isolated than their male peers, but there does seem to be a loneliness epidemic among young women. A majority (53 per cent) saying they feel lonely, substantially more than the proportion of young men saying the same.

The amount of time spent online is also surprisingly skewed across the gender divide. It is well known that the “Covid generation” were kept off school and forced to live out their social lives on the internet, and that algorithms mean young men and women live increasingly parallel lives online. What is less well known is that Covid generation women self-report as being more online, or at least more worried about it, than their male peers. Eighty-four per cent of women this age say they use TikTok regularly compared to 67 per cent men. Young men are more likely than women to use X, but in much smaller numbers than women use TikTok (46 per cent to 26 per cent). Online media consumption seems to be worrying young women more than men, with far more likely to say they spend “far too much time on social media” (49 per cent of 18- to 24-year-old women compared to 36 per cent of men the same age).

Behavioural differences, as well as personal values, could be significantly shaping the gender divide. Online media consumption, higher education (the gender divide is starkest between women with university degrees and men without them, with 56 per cent of university students now women) and even relationship status all seem to drive the increasingly different political outlooks from young men and young women. The political gap between those that are single is even more pronounced than between those who are married.


But whatever the reasons, the extent to which young women feel alienated from the rest of the country matters. There is still a prevailing sense that whatever young women are thinking or feeling, it doesn’t matter very much. Political trends among this cohort are generally seen more like a questionable fashion choice that they’ll probably soon grow out of, rather than anything meaningful or significant. But the extent to which young women are moving to the populist left is dramatic and doesn’t show signs of changing anytime soon. This crucial gender divide will not only continue to shape our politics but could also alter our social fabric as women increasingly feel they have less in common with older generations and men their own age. The consequences of an increasingly radical generation of young women could be dramatic and long-lasting.
 
I remember once getting backlash in our JK Rowling thread from the fatties for daring to suggest it was hypocritical that JK Rowing a feminist who speaks about violence against women to my knowledge has never once spoken about the rampant migrant SA and rape going on in England despite being a billionaire who is already speaking on unpopular issues. The thread of migrant SA is also like 1000 times higher then troons but they act like there is a tranny lurking in every single bathroom in the nation.
old middle and upper class women are very insulated from browns, the class (and age) divide ensures that.
troons transcend that insulation by annoying and inconveniencing those women even on the internet, while the brownoid horde is mostly active in the real world where they will never cross paths with someone like rowling.

rowling is a 60 year old boomer billionaire who has never been and will never be subject to the realities involved in living in a majority brown environment as a white girl. that's a problem for poor young white underclass women who live in shitty areas, rich old hags like rowling give zero fucks about it.
trannies on the other hand are very loud and annoying on twitter, which rowling is directly exposed to, so she gives a lot of fucks about them.
 
Listing Gaza as the number one issue is completely ridiculous. I say that as someone willing to dive in on the I/P debate even though it really has no impact on my life, but #1 issue?

I think maybe to a greater degree than men, women place outsized importance in signaling the “right” things. They know damn fucking well there is nothing their government can do to fix this problem but they still care super deeply that everybody signals that Israel sucks or whatever. Somehow, everybody saying it is going to fix it.

If we all say transgender women are women, then that will make it true somehow. If we all say everybody is equal, it will become true somehow. If we say women are just as good at boxing as men, it will become true somehow. That’s why they spend all their time censoring. They think it matters.

I think the mistake men made was playing into this. In America, we all avoid talking about IQ and race even if we have seen the numbers because even if the numbers aren’t equal, a lot of strife is avoided if we act like they are, and the bell curves overlap a lot anyway. There are certainly tons of black people way smarter than me so who the fuck cares?

But, if you want population level IQ to raise you need to acknowledge where the number is now and apply rigorous, effective education which will involve harsh discipline applied to kids. It will need force against bad parents and the criminals shitting and shooting up neighborhoods.

If the goal is reachable, we won’t ever get there with political correctness destroying everyone who tries anything other than increasing funding for the same people to do the same shit that doesn’t work.

Does tough love education and crime control sound paternalistic and authoritarian?

Well how the fuck does someone whose number one issue is resolving problems in a foreign nation instead of their own sound? Neither Israel or Palestine elected the young thots of the UK as their leaders or caretakers. Your nation has massive problems. It has its own unresolved sectarian issues so how about solving those?

Somebody should do something. We should fund somebody to do something. Send in British peacekeepers to Gaza. Ok, they got suicide bombed. They fired into a crowd in a panic in response.

Now what? Who knows, but British women 18-24 will feel entirely blameless and will lead the charge to lay the blame on the men who got sent into an impossible situation despite THEIR number one priority being the economy.

They are political critics. They can tell you some low detail version of how and why you should fix something, but they won’t have to be the ones to actually do it.

Climate change? Just stop using fossil fuels and use solar panels instead, DUH! Nobody is ever going to force an 18-24 year old woman to make the numbers add up for how we can actually keep the lights on that way. They are just going to keep believing it’s all Captain Planet villain logic that keeps the oil companies in business. Will they accept taking a hit to their standard of living to fix climate change? Fuck no. They will continue to be concerned with how we can, from the outside, somehow raise Palestine up to that standard instead despite the fact that they violently hate us.

The marketing industry has known since the dawn of marketing research that women do most consumer spending. All marketing research has been directed at influencing women since forever. It works. All of the lessons learned apply to political propaganda as well. Social media has made the propaganda more pervasive and totalizing.

It preys on all of their psychological needs and desires for gratification. All of their good traits, and all of their bad traits. All of their strengths and all of their weaknesses. With scientifically developed tactics, industrial scale efforts, going on all of the time.

It’s impossible to tell if they are as mentally ill and unhappy as the stats seem to claim or if they have just been persuaded that they are. But either way, it’s not a good way to live. It’s not helping them or their families or their countries. It’s just setting everyone up for exploitation.
 
old middle and upper class women are very insulated from browns, the class (and age) divide ensures that.
troons transcend that insulation by annoying and inconveniencing those women even on the internet, while the brownoid horde is mostly active in the real world where they will never cross paths with someone like rowling.

rowling is a 60 year old boomer billionaire who has never been and will never be subject to the realities involved in living in a majority brown environment as a white girl. that's a problem for poor young white underclass women who live in shitty areas, rich old hags like rowling give zero fucks about it.
trannies on the other hand are very loud and annoying on twitter, which rowling is directly exposed to, so she gives a lot of fucks about them.
So it's basically an "out of sight out of mind" thing? How ridiculous.
 
This article is about the UK.
assorted right wing movements
Does the UK have any? I'm under the impression they don't.
If you're right wing it simply means you're a weak failure.
As Brian Griffin once said, that's kind of a broad statement. Are you supposed to just be cool with niggers raping everyone and the government censoring all speech?
 
So it's basically an "out of sight out of mind" thing? How ridiculous.
that, and the anti white programming is extremely strong.
troons tend to be white, so hating on them can be spun as hating on (a subset of) white men, which is kosher.
speaking against the holy cow of multiculturalism on the other hand? that would be heresy of the highest order.
 
Self solving problem, third wave feminism is so anti-natalist that its devotees won't have any kids to pass their frothing activism torch off to and it will die with them and their cats.
 
Self solving problem, third wave feminism is so anti-natalist that its devotees won't have any kids to pass their frothing activism torch off to and it will die with them and their cats.
that doesn't stop them.
like homosexuals, feminists reproduce by corrupting other peoples children.
 
It preys on all of their psychological needs and desires for gratification. All of their good traits, and all of their bad traits. All of their strengths and all of their weaknesses. With scientifically developed tactics, industrial scale efforts, going on all of the time.

It’s impossible to tell if they are as mentally ill and unhappy as the stats seem to claim or if they have just been persuaded that they are. But either way, it’s not a good way to live. It’s not helping them or their families or their countries. It’s just setting everyone up for exploitation.
Funny you mention that. I'm certain societies of old were patriarchal in order to keep women from rending civilization apart. The whole deal about loyalty, romance, marriage and being a proper lady were made by men to ensure women were pleasant and amicable at least. Compare and contrast to the Modern Woman. All those traits have been replaced with the drive for relevance, their need to make things follow society and as established, our society is a total clownworld, its like watching a leaky gas tank catch on fire.

I'm reminded of Assembly Women which was a play the ancient Greeks wrote and our reality is resembling that right now. But with the addition of Western culture being dominated by corpos and other exploiters as they keep churning out propaganda after propaganda, they're only making things worse.

Self solving problem, third wave feminism is so anti-natalist that its devotees won't have any kids to pass their frothing activism torch off to and it will die with them and their cats.
Unfortunately, these pricks have entrenched themselves in media, education and all over the government and corporate sectors. You can bet your ass that they're spreading their rot everywhere.

You got BRIDGE...

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Which ensures this insanity continues in the corporate sector and is being backed by the WEF, and you have education and media that have these harpies trashing everything. We have an entire thread dedicated in cataloguing said rot in education.

Indoctrination material for kids and toddlers

TL;DR: Shit is fucked.
 
Yet not enough thought has been given to young women’s much greater movement in the opposite direction.
Because they haven't actually moved that much. Young people are almost always more progressive than older people; look at SDS, the anti-Vietnam movement, the Temperance movement, the fuckin' Suffragettes! The article whips out all these numbers comparing different age groups currently but doesn't look into how those 65+ year old women were thinking when they were 18-24.

The interesting thing about young men moving to the right isn't the 'men' part but the 'young' part. Young men are basically skipping past the idealistic utopianist thinking and going straight to realpolitik
 
Unfortunately, these pricks have entrenched themselves in media, education and all over the government and corporate sectors. You can bet your ass that they're spreading their rot everywhere.
And it isn't working.

If it was? Trump would be in jail and the USAID money would still be flowing to them. It's not. Just because they're pamphleteering all over the place doesn't mean they're convincing anyone. Normal people are sick of this shit, which means the grifters and true believers HAVE to double-down and get more in-your-face.

But, again?

None of this is working on anyone except hysterical young women who were already hard left ten years ago.

There is no bonus multiplier in elections for being that way, they still only count as one apiece, even if they're denouncing their own professors as too soft these days, (and they are).
 
Women have accurately recognized MAGA and assorted right wing movements as incel movements of dumb, low status males and they're acting according to that knowledge. There's nothing surprising about that. If you're right wing it simply means you're a weak failure. Simple.
Yeah man totally. Nothing says says masculine and commanding like the DNC.
 
Women have accurately recognized MAGA and assorted right wing movements as incel movements of dumb, low status males and they're acting according to that knowledge. There's nothing surprising about that. If you're right wing it simply means you're a weak failure. Simple.
Sir, this is a Wendy's.
 
Because women won't start killing people once things get dire enough, or alternatively, won't agree to the government forcing them to kill people.
At the end of the day, even the "radicalized" women will still work the pink collar jobs during their fertile years, rack up credit card debt, and sell out their rights to corpos and governments so they can posture about how much they care (about people who detest them). They can't reconcile that they aren't actually a threat to the system and that its propagandists don't raise the alarm because they act exactly as the system wants them to no matter how angry about it they get.
 
Damn, look at all the Timmycels in here seething that White Women are literally up in arms about how much they want foreign men
 
And it isn't working.

If it was? Trump would be in jail and the USAID money would still be flowing to them. It's not. Just because they're pamphleteering all over the place doesn't mean they're convincing anyone. Normal people are sick of this shit, which means the grifters and true believers HAVE to double-down and get more in-your-face.

But, again?

None of this is working on anyone except hysterical young women who were already hard left ten years ago.

There is no bonus multiplier in elections for being that way, they still only count as one apiece, even if they're denouncing their own professors as too soft these days, (and they are).
Bridge, unlike DEI's Blackrock backing, doesn't actually come with the same scale of financial incentive. It's essentially a list of suggestions with the endorsement of the WEF, who have fallen largely out of favour to little fanfare for everyone except the Saudis, who are basically using them as a form of glorified PR.

It was actually rather obvious from the start in hindsight. The "you will own nothing and be happy" was a prediction made alongside such Nostradamus-tier insights like, "technology will become more important in the 2020s" and "people will care more about climate change". They mixed in some obvious and popular "predictions" alongside more outrageous shit to give them more legitimacy but they ought to have been ignored from the start. The tragic reason anybody ever listened to them at all is because the only people less educated on the economy than the WEF are the average politician, which is just tragic.

Their economic suggestions during Covid were just straight up copied from Joe Biden, who himself was just copying Bill Clinton, the plan being just throwing money at shit and hope it fixes itself - it's worth nothing Bill's plan was in the context of disaster relief but the slogan was stolen all the same: Build back better.

A lot of this shit is just people regurgitating crap they heard about through osmosis for a survey/interviewer to appear more insightful than they actually are. It's all performative. It's the sort of trite you politely nod your head to when someone else brings it up, giving a soft, "yeah," and then it never enters your head again when you move swiftly onto a new topic*. A young person's vote is typically also performative until they feel that they're being negatively effected by the status quo/government policy at which point they actually switch on their brains and consider cause and effect.

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Powerlevel, but when Israel got jumped by Hamas (Oct 7th) there's this couple in the office in their mid 20s now who splurged about Gaza. Then about some months later the topic of Palestine came up the fairer of the two didn't know what that was despite being so enflamed on Gaza a few months prior. Her boyfriend quickly interjected ("Palestine is Gaza," he murmured), she went, "Oh" and nothing further was said.
If there's a select list of options to pick from, people will just veer towards the vaguely familiar, "smarter"-sounding one, and that's that.

Nothing any of these surveys or studies posit should be taken 100% serious because it's ultimately a broad conclusion created from a tiny proportion of the population, most of whom are either very malleable or just applying recent knowledge/news to their answer. We basically never know anything for sure as a consequence following this logic, which is simultaneously annoying but relaxing because it means there's no point to being worried or concerned about any data whatsoever.
 
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