2025 US and Venezuela Conflict - Operation Just Cause 2: 2 Just 2 Cause

if I am not remembering wrong, the buyers were middle eastern

>civil unrest, economic collapse, and repression everywhere in venezuela
>merchants profiting off terrible living conditions by buying stolen oil equipment
>the buyers are middle-eastern

I guarantee they're Lebanese. Lebanese merchants have an uncanny ability to profit in the worst conditions imaginable, while occasionally acting as smugglers in the process. That ain't mere conjecture, either. Look at Syria where they were smuggling sanctioned goods and petrol. There's also the Central African Republic where Lebanese merchants own supermarkets that have America-tier pricing for imported goods in the poorest (non-Congolese) country on the planet. If you're in a dangerously unstable country, and you see a Lebanese person, odds are they're profiting hardcore and living comfortably while the locals suffer.
 
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>The View’s Ana Navarro: “For us, this is a very happy day when we see a dictator who has been part of oppressing and abusing the Venezuelan people for 25 years, when we see him in handcuffs and held to some sort of accountability, it brought me to tears. It brought me great joy.” “I think you can still celebrate that this murderous, corrupt, sadistic son of a b*tch is out of Venezuela —”

>“I think you can still celebrate that this murderous, corrupt, sadistic son of a b*tch is out of Venezuela —”

Worth noting that she got bullied to hell and back on social media when people pointed out her initial hypocrisy when it happened, saying Trump was bad for arresting Maduro.

 
>Venesuelan
>Speaks perfect English
Trust me bro, just one more country

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Just a mutt that needs to be ICE'd
 
A fairly length read on what it would take to rebuild Venezuela’s oil sector and replace Canada- TDLR- lots of money and time, so it slots into the factor of oil being the cover story:

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It’s not really replacing it, but using Venezuela as leverage. US imports shitty crude and exports usable product. Canada fucking depends on their oil to prop up their economy. If Venezuelan oil is no longer going to Cuba/ China/ Russia and is instead being used by the US to do whatever, it’ll fuck Canada.

The Day of Rake soon ™️. If Trump can leverage Venezuela to drop the price of oil it fucks all of the US’s enemies and helps the US economy.
 
Oooooh look out, next they're going to kidnap the Czech president! Hell, he's even a pinko too, just like Maduro!

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You quoted wikipedia too so that makes you as much of a negroid as me.

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The example you used isn't a very good one because it's been slated to adopt the Euro for a long time now. They're already getting their way.
 
My extremely original take is that the Russians and the Americans are both in the right in slapping the shit out of their uppity neighbours, and that both situations are also not directly comparable. The US doesnt have a land border with Venezuela or the same type of conflict. People comparing them are disingenous.

Cuba will fall on its own sometime soon.
On the other hand like this post alleges. morale among the civilians is in the gutter, and most think of getting out rather than fighting- there is simply no waiting government-in-exile or democratic institutions available to immediately take power. Any sort of revolution would probably be a deal made by the army to overthrow the Communist Party (though I think Cuba could do with a shock-and-awe campaign to cap off its 60-year old communist saga.).

I think that the post probably overplays the role that the diaspora during these events (maybe aside from Rubio), but I think the role the diaspora will play is in the post-overthrow reinvestment and reconstruction of the country.

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Thanks Trump to oust Maduro, but you sworn the worst people of chavismo and you let free the true cartel leaders (Diosdado Cabello and Vladimir Padrino Lopez)
If you don't like it, then do it your fucking selves you spineless, shiftless, entitled, lazy, good-for-nothing banana beaner whores.
Maduro is gone, and there are less soldiers and Cubanos with less equipment. Military bases were deserted, weapons there for the taking. This is your moment if you are really that dissatisfied with the current state of affairs.

Do what you should have done in 2024, or 2019, or 2013, or 2003 and overthrow your worthless leaders instead of going to shit up other countries, whinging, and expecting others to fight and bleed for the freedoms you handed over.

Your response to being starved was to go shit up other countries - your neighbors, other beaner nations, the west, one particular worthless grifter going to Madrid - and beg for someone else to die to get you back the freedoms YOU gave up on the promise of government handouts.

In South America, a continent full of lazy, entitled, lying, grifting, worthless parasites Venezuelans have somehow managed to make of themselves such lying criminal grifting parasite behavior ever other Spic subspecies is fed up with you.

So I don't want to fucking hear it. Tough fucking nuts that you are still being left with the corrupt worthless leaders you voted into power. Do something about it other than whine that American didn't die to give you back rule of law. Stop expecting others to die when you won't even stand up to a bunch of fat jungle retards with mosins.

The US has the capability of removing Chavismo from power, but it would be bloody and costly. It is more pragmatic to simply make them change team, they can keep their authoritarian hellhole intact, as long as they pay their tithe and kiss the ring. This way, all the (Relevant) parties are satisfied.
I mean the Navy is right there, the airforce too, and its proven VZ's airdefense is shit. All that needs to happen is the Venzuelan people to take matters into their own hands, rise up, overthrow their oppressors and lol never mind this shit is too ridiculous for me to finish.
Venezuelans doing anything other than starving in the streets and begging for others to save from what they created as they shit up other countries is to outlandish of an idea.

No lol. Maduro will receive a comfy house arrest. [... ]
TLDR: Everything that Trump wants, can be achieved with Chavismo in power.
Maduro isn't going to be put in genpop, but he's going to sit in Prison. Literally look at Noriega. DEA doesn't fuck around no matter who you are in the outside world.

But yes, Trump is solely putting the fear of God into the Venezuelan govenment and leaving it to the Venezuelan people to change their government. That is, it'll never happen as only cucked and gay controlled opposition exists.
Chavezismo forever!



A fairly length read on what it would take to rebuild Venezuela’s oil sector and replace Canada- TDLR- lots of money and time, so it slots into the factor of oil being the cover story:
I'm going to tl;dr very hard here and drop a lot of nuance. Assume I'm saying things in good faith here. If you poke me about this or points I didn't cover/cover fully I will sperg way the fuck out about the german rail foamer levels of details.

There are some short term gains. Even if it takes 5-7 years for Venezuelan oil industry to recover, Oil prices today will drop due to the expectation of the market opening up. Oil companies plan decades in advance. It also puts the Canucks on notice that their shit is about to be pushed in; their negotiating team is going to see their leverage errode the longer the process drags on and VZ oil picks up, so it forces Canada towards a quicker resolution. And if thye don't take it then fuck them, day of the rake once things are back at full tilt.

But really oil isn't the cover, its the excuse not the reason. Trump is sending a message to Columbia and to Mexico that he has read Clear and Present Danger and views himself as Jack Ryan and Hegseth's primary goal for the past year has been to find him a Ding Chavez; it looks like he's been located, and Trump is now ready to act he is not fucking around, he will really fucking do it if they don't kick out the chinks, get the cartels undercontrol, and stop their people from shitting up the US and voting for worthless democrats. (And probably Cuba in there too but I doubt Cuba's going to listen.)

Regime change in South Africa next? Is BRICS about to become BRIC? Doubtful, the post is from an Afrikaner Telegram channel so it's them ODing on hopium.
Its nominally possible the ANC loses power if their backers vanish. But South Africa is permanently blacked, barring the chinks using it for population overflow, so "end of black rule" is wanton cope.



America is a "hegemon" not despite of international law but because of it.
And nobody "enforces" IL or the geneva convention, the functioning of these institutions completely flies over your head. And on top of that you are seething about Europe out of nowhere which shows you are just a resentful moron who wants to bomb the world to... uhm... ???
You carry water for Putin trying to annex a neighboring country, opinion disregarded

Post hands.

America going around acting like a nigger bombing shit and kidnapping heads of states signals that being involved with America or just having a military base not even in your country, but just near you, is dangerous and that America is completely untrustworthy.
Trump is diplomatically isolating the US with stunts like this but you gorilla niggers have 0 foresight so it just flies over your head.
Russia going around acting like a nigger bombing shit and trying and failing to kidnap heads of states signals that being involved with Russia or just having a military base not even in your country, but just near you, is dangerous and that Russia is completely untrustworthy.
Putin is diplomatically isolating Russia with stunts like this but you taiga niggers have 0 foresight so it just flies over your head.

Anything is possible
You making a good or at least reasonable and non-seething post is apparently not possible.
 
You making a good or at least reasonable and non-seething post is apparently not possible.
I like you Ghostse but there is nothing here to be upset about. It’s not like we have much influence or say in international affairs.

From my perspective I’m just bummed I couldn’t come up with some of these funny memes. But hey, competition creates quality and we have a lot of good jokes from this affair.

Plus, it’s been a success, wouldn’t you say? The results speak for themselves, or will speak for themselves soon. Enjoy.
 
You making a good or at least reasonable and non-seething post is apparently not possible.
I know you think I'm right, because reading what I write triggers you so much you feel the need to respond even though you never have any counter arguments to what I say, further proving my point.
90% of your views are Russian psyops you eat out of your MAGA trough. You're an absolute void of a person, no dignity and no values. Genuinely one of the most pathetic "people" I know of.
 
Canada fucking depends on their oil to prop up their economy.
Sadly canada is bankrupt. Their oil shale is too pricy to process compared to saudi crude.
Only margin they have is due to transport cost and being close to a major power/consumer like us.

f Trump can leverage Venezuela to drop the price of oil it fucks all of the US’s enemies and helps the US economy.
He can't. Venezuela has almost no production capacity. You would need to redevelop a complete oil field and extraction technology, which will take years.
Besides, they can't export anything but value-less crude and have to import massive amounts of gasoline just to keep this tar flowing.
It's a shit gamble and he already lost.
The US solution is to stop VN exports to raise price of their own crude and steal what they can to compensate for Saudi price. At the extraction price of 60USD that's 1/3 of oil.
Canada and US oil fields are hurting badly due to sudden flood of cheap russian and saudi oil.
 
There are some short term gains. Even if it takes 5-7 years for Venezuelan oil industry to recover, Oil prices today will drop due to the expectation of the market opening up. Oil companies plan decades in advance. It also puts the Canucks on notice that their shit is about to be pushed in
Problem is, if that's the case it also puts American domestic oil producers on notice that their shit is about to be pushed in. The production costs are too high to continue operating if oil falls much below $60/bbl for long.

That's a lot of people put out of work and domestic capital investment halted.
 
No, the fact that your country is 56% white and dropping makes you brown.
The fact you retards are going to forget all about mass deportations, cost of living, Somali daycares, H1B infestations, and antifa terrorists just because Trump captured some wetback moustache man makes you all brown.

It's like watching the shitfuckistan countries or North Korea worship their glorious leader.

It's funny and, like I said earlier in the thread, it results in dead brown people on both sides (Venezuelans and Americans) so this is a net benefit for white people.
You have barely been here two years and every post is you seething about niggers. Its like you actually seen a nigger dick and now you are obsessed.
 
He can't. Venezuela has almost no production capacity. You would need to redevelop a complete oil field and extraction technology, which will take years.
Besides, they can't export anything but value-less crude and have to import massive amounts of gasoline just to keep this tar flowing.
It's a shit gamble and he already lost.
The US solution is to stop VN exports to raise price of their own crude and steal what they can to compensate for Saudi price. At the extraction price of 60USD that's 1/3 of oil.
Canada and US oil fields are hurting badly due to sudden flood of cheap russian and saudi oil.
Venezuela has lots of Crude capacity and the ability to get old wells back into service moderately quickly - enough trump will see gains from it.

The utter state of VZ's oil is down to two things:
First, their REFINING capability is absolutely totally wrecked. It wasn't particularly great before, but they are down to two Russian run and one Chicom refinery, and I think one domestic one that half way runs thanks to the efforts of Chevron and the Russians (GAZPROM specifically I think). That will take probably a decade to get back to previous levels of normal provided there are no blockers. So its fully accurate to say anything about VZ petroleum production factoring in being a pipedream is accurate.

Second, due to lack of refining the pumping infrastructure has dropped off because there is no where to send the pumped oil. VZ's oil is trash tier swamp sludge but its very easy to pump and transport. Given no other blockers and full support of Standard Oil's spawn (which other than Chavezismo deciding to test Trump I don't see why there would be) VZ oil production will be up to speed quickly enough for Trump to derive political benefit for it.

Problem is, if that's the case it also puts American domestic oil producers on notice that their shit is about to be pushed in. The production costs are too high to continue operating if oil falls much below $60/bbl for long.

That's a lot of people put out of work and domestic capital investment halted.
Crude production will be down, but oil revenues and business will be up. The US in the only country that can process VZ's oil without cutting it with better oil, and the US is still the worlds #1 refiner. If only drops, oil companies just buy cheaper oil elsewhere and bring it to the refineries.

There are one of two things that will happen with VZ re-entering the market.
Either the international market slackens and in that case US domestic pumping will slow. Oil companies will still continue their explorations and signing contracts, but they will drop domestic pumping to bare minimums. This will have a negliable effect on oil jobs.

Or production does not meet demand in which case nothing changes except the lower end of the market loosens up. This will mean more jobs and possibly new refinery construction.

People also forget there is more at play than just price-per-barrel. Not all oil is created equal, and there are additional international fuckfuck games in play. That is, even at $50/barrel due to transit costs and taxes its still cheaper to pump and refine Pennsylvania and Texas crude for domestic use than to use foreign oils, even if it doesn't make sense to put those products on ships for Europe or Asia.

VZ's oil is high-sulfur and absolutely shit-tier. It is mostly used to make diesel for countries with no emissions regulations (i.e. BRICS). What this means is the Brazil now has a source of cheap diesel and the lower-end stuff they were buying is now on the market for 2nd world countries. And the stuff they were buying is now available for overregulated Eurofags.



I know you think I'm right, because reading what I write triggers you so much you feel the need to respond even though you never have any counter arguments to what I say, further proving my point.
90% of your views are Russian psyops you eat out of your MAGA trough. You're an absolute void of a person, no dignity and no values. Genuinely one of the most pathetic "people" I know of.
Bro that's a mirror you're talking to.

Anyway you going to post about Venezuela or continue to seethe and talk about your masturbatory fantasies involving Trump?
 
I know you think I'm right, because reading what I write triggers you so much you feel the need to respond even though you never have any counter arguments to what I say, further proving my point.
90% of your views are Russian psyops you eat out of your MAGA trough. You're an absolute void of a person, no dignity and no values. Genuinely one of the most pathetic "people" I know of.

Surely you know that the Venezuelan junta, which you are severly buttmad about Trump attacking, is aligned with Russia and China.

Who is eating up Russian psyops faggot?

Problem is, if that's the case it also puts American domestic oil producers on notice that their shit is about to be pushed in. The production costs are too high to continue operating if oil falls much below $60/bbl for long.

That's a lot of people put out of work and domestic capital investment halted.

Crude production in the US ramped up to it's highest levels ever by far between 2016-2020 when prices were at their lowest levels in decades and the average was well below 60$ a barrel. So you're dead wrong.
 
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Here's the two courtroom sketches of Maduro and his wife in court this morning:
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Colombian Interior Minister Armando Benedetti and Acting Justice Minister Andrés Idarraga announced Colombia’s willingness to coordinate with the U.S. in combating criminal organizations and drug cartels.

The cooperation will focus on economic, technological, and intelligence support to dismantle camps, laboratories, and trafficking networks, with particular emphasis on the Colombian-Venezuelan border and ELN structures.
Petro's government is getting scared.
 
Problem is, if that's the case it also puts American domestic oil producers on notice that their shit is about to be pushed in. The production costs are too high to continue operating if oil falls much below $60/bbl for long.

That's a lot of people put out of work and domestic capital investment halted.
That's an old number. $60 a barrel was the rough profitability cutoff ten-ish years ago. It's more like $50 - or even $40 with various belt tightening practical and financial tricks - today. And, broadly speaking, that cutoff is for fracking operations, not conventional drilling and extracting
 
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