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There are a lot of freaks and losers who want to involve themselves in cases but unfortunately Noreen Gosch believes them. Parents believe the trafficking angle because that means there is a chance their child is still alive somewhere.
 
There are a lot of freaks and losers who want to involve themselves in cases but unfortunately Noreen Gosch believes them. Parents believe the trafficking angle because that means there is a chance their child is still alive somewhere.
The trafficking stuff always seemed far-fetched to me and a fantasy.

Like why would you kidnap a kid in his paper route and sell him to sex slavery for years?

Makes more sense if he was kidnapped then unpleasant things happen to him and then he was murdered.
 
A lot of the other photos also don't look nearly as distressed as the image circulating online. Don't get me wrong, I'm still concerned that this woman could very well be a trafficking victim given, but it does seem like the chosen image was one fitting the narrative. The most likely scenario is definitely her falling, jumping, or being pushed off the balcony, which...that's honestly the best case scenario, as fucked up as that may sound. The reports of her being trafficked, especially the ones where the woman who looked like her apparently had children, just sound like a special kind of hell.
I also used to support the trafficking theory as a possibility until this year because of the Jazz pictures and reports of Yellow's behavior (I'm now 50/50 on her falling or being pushed overboard). One factor which speaks against her having been sex-trafficked is, she doesn't fit the profile of a typical sex trafficking victim. For example, in rich European countries such as Germany, sex trafficking victims (and the majority of prostitutes in general) come from Eastern European countries such as Albania or 3rd world countries like Nigeria. They are commonly from poor areas of their country and/or in a precarious situation that makes them more vulnerable to becoming victims of trafficking. Oftentimes they don't even speak English and/or the language of the country they get trafficked to.

Amy was in a shitty situation because her family wouldn't accept her being a lesbian (and, judging by the Netflix documentary and their current-day behavior, they still don't want to do it) and possibly vulnerable to the kindness of strangers, but she would've been harder to traffic than a 16-year-old runaway from Nicaragua that nobody's going to look for.
The trafficking stuff always seemed far-fetched to me and a fantasy.

Like why would you kidnap a kid in his paper route and sell him to sex slavery for years?

Makes more sense if he was kidnapped then unpleasant things happen to him and then he was murdered.
Most children who are kidnapped by child sex predators are murdered within 24 hours of their abduction. This is very likely what happened to Johnny. The guy who knocked on Noreen's door in 1997 was either a conman or a straight-up hallucination.

I think Jacob Wetterling's family also used to claim their son must've been sold into sex trafficking, until the guy who killed him fessed up in 2016 and revealed where he'd buried his body.
 
One factor which speaks against her having been sex-trafficked is, she doesn't fit the profile of a typical sex trafficking victim.
Yeah...it does happen to women (and, very rarely, men) from developed countries, but that's more likely to be domestic and still usually involves more vulnerable people. Abducting a Westerner aboard a cruise ship would be possible if the trafficker had the right connections, but it would also be significantly harder than just victimizing a random runaway from San Salvador. Most traffickers aren't brilliant criminal masterminds, just confidence-men/women and street thugs who either entrap or abduct people who either don't know what to look out for or can't defend themselves. Usually, people in one of those two categories who won't be missed or who come from an area without the resources to pursue the case.

Amy could have been trafficked, but Occam's Razor comes into effect here. She was asleep in a deck chair on the balcony of a cruise ship at 5:30, then gone at 6:00. 99% chance that she either accidentally or intentionally went over that balcony.
 
Johnny Gosh is more than likely dead. I figure his body was left to rot in some patch of woods near Des Moines or got dumped into the river which is why his remains have never been found.
 
JonBenet's family does come off as odd, but as @Bothriolepis said, it's easy for things to seem sinister in hindsight.

One of the best "true crime" documentaries that I've seen in a while is "Perfect Wife," about Sherri Papini. Her husband's actual interviews with the cops are featured, and had she never shown back up, one could easily watch those interviews and think that he's a really shady character.

How are people "supposed" to act when a loved one is murdered or goes missing? Real life isn't TV.
 
JonBenet's family does come off as odd, but as @Bothriolepis said, it's easy for things to seem sinister in hindsight.

One of the best "true crime" documentaries that I've seen in a while is "Perfect Wife," about Sherri Papini. Her husband's actual interviews with the cops are featured, and had she never shown back up, one could easily watch those interviews and think that he's a really shady character.

How are people "supposed" to act when a loved one is murdered or goes missing? Real life isn't TV.

Yeah, for all I think that the family do it with JBR, that’s not because of their behavior in interviews. Yeah, they’re odd, but like you said, there’s no perfectly normal or acceptable way to act in that situation. The “ransom note” and other factors are damning enough, in my opinion.
 
The trafficking stuff always seemed far-fetched to me and a fantasy.

Like why would you kidnap a kid in his paper route and sell him to sex slavery for years?

Makes more sense if he was kidnapped then unpleasant things happen to him and then he was murdered.
The selling into sex trafficking thing is just the fantasies of sex starved True Crime podcast listening women and also what whores say when they don’t want to admit they were junky whores.

It way too risky to do to white people, especially middle class white people.

If you think they’ve been trafficked then they’re in a shallow graves after having had all their holes forcefully stretched out.
 
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Yeah, for all I think that the family do it with JBR, that’s not because of their behavior in interviews. Yeah, they’re odd, but like you said, there’s no perfectly normal or acceptable way to act in that situation. The “ransom note” and other factors are damning enough, in my opinion.
To me, the explanation that makes the most sense so far is that Burke caused his sister's death and the parents covered it up so they wouldn't lose not just their second child as well, but also their social status, the image they had built up of their family, basically to keep the rest of their world from crashing down around them as well.
 
To me, the explanation that makes the most sense so far is that Burke caused his sister's death and the parents covered it up
This is the only situation that makes sense to me because I don't believe Patsy would lie to protect her husband if he had (accidently) killed JB, but I can believe that she would lie to protect her only remaining child. People shit on the Ramsey's and maybe they have a point, but I do think Patsy loved both her children very much. Her grief over her daughter was real. Plus it's not that uncommon in cases of missing babies and young children that the child seemingly died by accident or neglect, and the parents and family choose to cover it up so they don't lose what they have left (rarely can this be proven in court, though, without a body). The Ramsey's made the mistake of keeping JB in the home instead of taking the body away and hiding it somewhere.
 
To me, the explanation that makes the most sense so far is that Burke caused his sister's death and the parents covered it up so they wouldn't lose not just their second child as well, but also their social status, the image they had built up of their family, basically to keep the rest of their world from crashing down around them as well.

I think this is well.
 
Re: Amy Bradley

There were 8 or 10 photos in the Jas set. The woman's face is visible in 4 of them. In the others, her face is either out of shot or censored. The face is censored whenever the minge is on view. Assuming all 8 photos are Jas, the woman does not have a gecko tattooed on her navel. Therefore, probably not Amy Bradley.

Not to mention the fact that a trafficking ring probably wouldn't want to put an FBI missing person on their website.
 
Not to mention the fact that a trafficking ring probably wouldn't want to put an FBI missing person on their website.

Also, why would they go through all that work to abduct a young woman who is traveling with her family on a cruise ship instead of you know, a young girl who is alone? And why would they abduct someone that would get immediate attention from the cops and media instead of a girl who has no family?

It doesn't even make sense.
 
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