US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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Harris would be far worse, but this dilemma is the nature of the uniparty, which is what the people you're arguing with are trying to tell you, I think. Between running into a wall at 60mph and 30mph, yes, 30mph is better. Neither is great for you. That's the argument being made
Than its a poor argument because hitting the wall is the current paradigm of American politics, has been for decades, and will be for years to come. However hitting the wall at 30mph at least gives us more room to council a path of not hitting the wall at all. At the end of it, someone like Harris, or someone like Trump will be your president. There is no alternative, the Office of President will be filled.

The BBB had as many open violations of Trump campaign promises as it had victories, particularly massively increasing the deficit that I was told would be lowered. I would say it was a net positive legislation, but it had more pork than a slaughterhouse, and a good amount of what was in there I did not like. I will admit that increasing ICE funding is great, though ICE's response has left a lot to be desired. Vance isn't the worst by a long shot, but I also do not see enough actions of his to outweigh his massive shortcomings.

Yes, you just said that Vance doesn't win by appealing to guys like me. Which I hope is true, because he will need lots of boomercons to outvote the inevitable cheating. I am still living through brown invasion, robbery through welfare, and political prosecution. The nation is drowning in foreign browns, like the one Vance married. I am still being robbed of most of my paycheck through various taxes to fuel the welfare state. I will still get fired from my job if I say something contrary to progressivism. None of these things have actually been fixed, they just aren't getting worse as quickly as before. Is that really what they have to offer me? "We will sort of slow down how much worse things are getting" isn't much of a selling point for me.

Who knows, maybe the next three years will prove me wrong and those 3 things will actually be meaningfully addressed. If things change meaningfully, then my stance might change with it.
You wanted creditable proof that Vance can walk the walk, while talking the talk. Now you have it. The cons of something can be out weighed by the pros. The ills of America took decades to enact, and it will take time (hopefully not decades) to correct them. Trump hasn't even been in office an entire year. As much as we joke Trump is the God-Emperor, he is ultimately just one old man who has his to think about 20 serious separate issues daily. He was never going to right every wrong day, week, month, or year one; and as much as I don't want to admit, there will be issues Trump will not get fixed this term. Only God can move heaven and the earth. However things are shifting in the right direction. Vance just got up on national television and said its okay to be White. Do you think that would have even been possible a year ago? Two? Three? Does that sound like just more neocon bullshit? Do you think Trump and Vance didn't talk about his remarks before he said them? Do you think Trump wouldn't have nixed those remarks if he was just another boomer? You admit things are getting better in some respects. Yet that isn't a selling point? A fire storm starts with a spark. The inferno burning down the liberal order is happening. Life will get better.
 
As a Star Trek fan, i will yell at these retards: Roddenberry stole the Enterprise name from the IRL USS Enterprise. I'm fucking excited its happening the other way around. Balanced, as all things should be. If anything its an honor to the greatest Star Trek show of all time and its greatest ship.
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All i know is they better get someone with the last name of Sisko to captain the new ship.
 
Harris would be far worse, but this dilemma is the nature of the uniparty, which is what the people you're arguing with are trying to tell you, I think. Between running into a wall at 60mph and 30mph, yes, 30mph is better. Neither is great for you. That's the argument being made
my argument for this is, they aren't running. they're literally saying they will not run. they won't change directions, they won't take control of their own legs. all they WILL do is tell me how much running would be a waste of my time and that i shouldn't even bother running at 1 mile an hour in my own direction because when i had to vote to pick the big direction change, it was 97 degrees instead 102. i'm not stupid, i understand their arguments. i've acknowledged that. my response is

QUIT CRYING ABOUT HOW BAD THINGS ARE AND FUCKING DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT YOU RETARDED FUCKING MONKEYS.

literally. do anything but whine and cry and complain on an internet forum. i would accept 'begin forming your own political party on said internet forum' even. all they are doing, when they do this, is attempting to demoralize others to the same level they are demoralized, and i don't like it. if they want to demoralize people, they will have to deal with being called retarded lazy niggers who have no interest in actually fixing any of the problems they whine like children about, just that they want to continue whining.

The US embargo on Venezuelan oil is threatening to completely destabilize Cuba.
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We get all this without a hot war? This is great! The US needs to do more dick swinging and less boots on the ground.

With no coffins coming home, there's no pressure to stop. We could just do this forever. :story:
cuba is already on the verge of collapse without anything disrupting oil shipments, let alone that their shadow tanker buttbuddies aren't able to ship out a single drop of crude to them anymore. i hope the people in cuba are able to get help and freedom from their communist overlords someday soon.
 
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At the end of it, someone like Harris, or someone like Trump will be your president. There is no alternative, the Office of President will be filled.
which is the core problem, they all serve vested intrests that are basically the same for both sides, and they do so with a gusto, they generally do not serve us purposefully, if it ever actually benefits you the things the Dems or Repub's do, its accidental, incidental or some variant.

It isn't even malice, they simply have to, they have to serve various social-economic-political and Global groups, the system really barely involves YOU at all, hence despite the fact almost all parties involved are supremely rich, they make you donate to them so they can run the election, telling me to vote for this faggot or that faggot is really just a joke, things have progressively gone in one direction for well over 60 years, and nothing has stopped it, speedbumps at best.

Unlike Fatpacks I'm not doomer though, all of this can be undone, all of it requires the Cyberdemon strategy, and what was the strategy to be rid of the Cyberdemon?

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he's really fucked this coming election with even basic campaigning. the most recent number i saw from my over-tuned friend before he left a month ago was that only 14 percent of MAGA republicans would vote for him if he ran against anyone endorsed by trump, and that area of KY is completely in love with trump AND vance. this was a colossal error on his part, and it's very funny because before i moved years ago, i warned my mom he was gonna get too cozy.
The funniest thing to me, Ed hasn't even started running ads yet, one or two generic anti Massie ads and he's already just bleeding support. The couple of ones I've seen around are brutal, and I mean just brutal. I don't want to say too much as it might never see light of day, but.. let's say one of his sons is none to happy that he remarried so quickly, and to someone that was a friend to Rhonda.

There is a very good reason I said i'd dox myself with name/picture if he won the primary. MTG had some of the same heat on her and she had the good sense to drop out, Massie probably should have.
 
Love, love, love. I'm sure Wil Wheaton will have some soy-drenched commentary about it as well. (I'll leave it to others to check his socials.)

I still can't believe it. An actual USS Defiant. I wish I could be the one to stand at the helm and growl, "Prepare for RAMMING SPEED!" as it stares down some Chinese fishing fleet.
 
Love, love, love. I'm sure Wil Wheaton will have some soy-drenched commentary about it as well. (I'll leave it to others to check his socials.)

I still can't believe it. An actual USS Defiant. I wish I could be the one to stand at the helm and growl, "Prepare for RAMMING SPEED!" as it stares down some Chinese fishing fleet.
These things are not built for ramming my man. They have mountains of VLS cells and a fucking railgun. Kinda the opposite of the Defiant from Star Trek tbh.
 
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