Mystery Science Theater 3000 and Rifftrax

[XYZpdq Jr.]

The refusal to film even a single live show is baffling to me.

iirc Joel was a fag about that with Cinematic Titanic too

 

[Nick Bockwinkel's Belt]

her Crow was that woman who did a Milhouse cartoon voice for every riff

Yeah, troon Crow was unwatchable. Then they made it worse by having that Crow also be the one who was with Joel.

everything I heard made them sound like the best version of the reboot

I went to a show during the Watch Out for Snakes tour, and yeah. Jonah, Hampton, and Baron worked great when they were riffing together live. It's how they should've filmed the show instead of having the riffs pre-recorded by them separately in a sound booth then acted out in pantomime or CG for the theater segments. Whoever edited the Netflix show had no concept of comedic timing.

 

[Rick's Beef Wellington]

Whoever edited the Netflix show had no concept of comedic timing.

Yes, thank you. I used to think it was "they're shoving in too many jokes, let it breathe!" but I've been watching more of the old MST episodes lately rather than Rifffrax and there are near-constant jokes in some of those but it works because the performances and interplay between the riffers is so much better.

 

[grapeshark77]

Yes, thank you. I used to think it was "they're shoving in too many jokes, let it breathe!" but I've been watching more of the old MST episodes lately rather than Rifffrax and there are near-constant jokes in some of those but it works because the performances and interplay between the riffers is so much better.

The Netflix era in particular was odd. Joel had Jonah and the Crow/Servo actors record the riffs, then he had Jonah go to the theater and sit with two puppeteers and mime along to the recording, and then it was dubbed over? Some of the early episodes have riffs showing up before the thing they're joking about because someone had to edit the audio over the video.

For season 13 I think they actually recorded the whole thing together but a bunch of new issues popped up.

 

[mlanguishi]

The Netflix era in particular was odd. Joel had Jonah and the Crow/Servo actors record the riffs, then he had Jonah go to the theater and sit with two puppeteers and mime along to the recording, and then it was dubbed over? Some of the early episodes have riffs showing up before the thing they're joking about because someone had to edit the audio over the video.

Troons ran it. And troons run their twitch feed too, they'll boot anyone no matter how long over the slightest thing you might say about old movies not being woke and that was good. Rifftrax and mst3k's maintenance people are all troons.

 

[Commander X]

I had just gotten around to watching one of the recent riffs, Impulse, a sleazy production from the 70s starring Shatner as a murderous con artist, one of his roles in that post-Star Trek period when he was in "villain of the week" roles on TV series and in B-movies and some films where the designation of "B-movie" would be too kind and such.

It's no The Devil's Rain, but then, what is?

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

Just gave the Netflix revival a chance, good GOD this is fucking bad. It feels so,,, fake. None of the riffs feel like people making jokes as they watch the movie, it just feels like reading off a script. The acting is all so shit.

The Mike era remains undefeated, praise be.

 

[Ultraman Orb Dark]

The Mike era remains undefeated, praise be.

It also gave us Slab Bulkhead.

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

More of a Rowsdower man myself, but that is true.

 

[Nick Bockwinkel's Belt]

None of the riffs feel like people making jokes as they watch the movie, it just feels like reading off a script. The acting is all so shit.

There were way too many writers for the netflix seasons, including many talentless "big names" inviting themselves in to make things even worse (i.e. Steven Universe creator Rebecca Sugar and her brother).

I'm glad that at least it seems they figured out to just run classic CC and Sci-Fi full episodes on the YouTube Forever-a-thon instead of randomly interrupting my sleep with gizmoplex shit or those stupid Shout Factory documentaries.

 

[strumpets exeunt]

Just gave the Netflix revival a chance, good GOD this is fucking bad. It feels so,,, fake. None of the riffs feel like people making jokes as they watch the movie, it just feels like reading off a script. The acting is all so shit.

The Mike era remains undefeated, praise be.

To this day, my sister and I still just call each other up out of the blue and proclaim, "SARGASSUM: THE WEED OF DECEIT."

 

[Nick Bockwinkel's Belt]

The Mike era remains undefeated, praise be.

And it always will be. There is no competing against this:

 

[innocent jogger]

More of a Rowsdower man myself, but that is true.

Bit of a Big Stupid fan here.

 

[strumpets exeunt]

I wonder if there's beer on the sun...

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

To this day, my sister and I still just call each other up out of the blue and proclaim, "SARGASSUM: THE WEED OF DECEIT."

SARCASIM FISH!

 

[Gay Sex Enjoyer]

I'm glad that at least it seems they figured out to just run classic CC and Sci-Fi full episodes on the YouTube Forever-a-thon instead of randomly interrupting my sleep with gizmoplex shit or those stupid Shout Factory documentaries.

"-there was a guy named Jonah-"

 

[Commander X]

I'm just a fan of the pre-Netflix/Gizmoplex era MST3K in general; Mike or Joel, or call it all the "Joike" Era if you will.

I was willing to give the New MST3K a chance and the shame of it is the occasional decent joke was buried under blizzards of riffs that feel bland, sterile. The original series was made by a group of mostly local Midwestern comedians and TV people making jokes about what they thought was funny, so you'd get jokes about Mark Rothko and medieval composers and plenty of cultural references from a wider pool than most use (like the host segment during "City Limits" where the Bots are going through their comic book collection and note they have a copy of a Dell Comics adaptation of Max Ehrmann's 1927 poem "Desiderata").

The reboot MST3K was a bunch of LA career geek-comedy people with the same set of cultural references as Ready Player One (Ernest Cline even guest-wrote for one of the revival episodes, for 'effs sake).

 

[Nick Bockwinkel's Belt]

The reboot MST3K was a bunch of LA career geek-comedy people with the same set of cultural references as Ready Player One (Ernest Cline even guest-wrote for one of the revival episodes, for 'effs sake).

I wonder if that among other reasons was why Mike declined when Joel invited him to be part of the the reboot. If you've ever listened to the podcast Mike does with Conor Lastowka, 372 Pages We'll Never Get Back, Ready Player One was the first book they reviewed.

 

[Preferred Penne]

Shitty Girl Crow sounds more like Timmy Turner, and insists on laughing at her own jokes every time.

 

[XYZpdq Jr.]

Shitty Girl Crow sounds more like Timmy Turner, and insists on laughing at her own jokes every time.

I'm not sure if anybody other than Kevin has really been reliable at laughing at their own jokes