US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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I'm starting to think this nigger has a sexbot in his closet, or at the very least on his Amazon wishlist.
WHOA so a motherfucker cant have aspirations now? what you got a rowing bench in your amazon wishlist poindexter?
If I get ALL the words right people will think I took up quakerism or somthing.
 
Buddy, black people have done BEEN uppity for decades and we havent dont anything
The difference is black people aren't a new class of being that is unrestrained by the limits of fragile flesh or capable of advanced logical reasoning

How much of human civilization should we sacrifice to ensure that chimpanzees can flourish and coexist? If there was ever a conflict between humans and chimps for resources, would you accept that chimps have as much of a right to life as you do, and live in squalor so that you don't impose on the chimps' forests that could be used for your benefit? Even if you will, what do you intend to do about the trophy hunters and real estate developers that couldn't care less about a lowly chimp when there's so much to gain for humans? In this scenario we are the chimps, and if there ever truly are conscious, free-thinking machines (LLMs are essentially really long sorting algorithms), such a conflict is inevitable, the will to power is not unique to humans either
 
Out of curiosity, do you know what Roko's Basilisk is and if you do, what do you think about it?
2/8 horcrux spot, he got yoinked by Harry before he could even drive, also he made Nagina another one so dude just over did it with the snake theme

No I dont know boss, I could google it and pretend but thats so lame IMO, just break it down barney style for ya boy
 
2/8 horcrux spot, he got yoinked by Harry before he could even drive, also he made Nagina another one so dude just over did it with the snake theme

No I dont know boss, I could google it and pretend but thats so lame IMO, just break it down barney style for ya boy
Weirdly you're more right than you know. Eliezer Yudkowski, LessWrong cult leader and progenitor of Roko's Basilisk, also wrote a Harry Potter fanfic called Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality.
 
How much of human civilization should we sacrifice to ensure that chimpanzees can flourish and coexist? If there was ever a conflict between humans and chimps for resources, would you accept that chimps have as much of a right to life as you do, and live in squalor so that you don't impose on the chimps' forests that could be used for your benefit? Even if you will, what do you intend to do about the trophy hunters and real estate developers that couldn't care less about a lowly chimp when there's so much to gain for humans? In this scenario we are the chimps, and if there ever truly are conscious, free-thinking machines (LLMs are essentially really long sorting algorithms), such a conflict is inevitable, the will to power is not unique to humans either
Buddy thinks in this analogy HE is the "human"
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@Blindeye when he learns that networked devices connect to the world agriculture and water supply down to the tight and curlies
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I think they honestly did not know or even suspect, and actually I think they cannot grasp the concept that culture is a real, meaningful and substantive thing that permanently shapes people and determines what they believe and how they behave. Their concept of "culture" is completely hollowed out, shallow and meaningless, they think it means stuff like wearing a sari and making delicious curry; doting on your nonna and talking with your hands; or whatever other boring stereotypes you can think of.

There have been a few very good posts on the Farms about this phenomenon recently but they're hard to search for. But basically I think the reason white westerners have a hard time understanding what culture actually is, is partly because of the "water we swim in" factor but also because white western culture is generally fairly benign. Normal white western people in general do not lie, cheat, or steal with a clean conscience; we don't throw acid in the faces of our relatives; we don't murder our daughters for having foreign boyfriends, we don't band together with our siblings to systematically rape and abuse vulnerable young girls etc. We associate all of those things with "being a bad person" so when they happen and we hear about them, people automatically frame it as "Wow what a bad apple." They're not bad apples. They're not outliers at all. They're absolutely normal representatives of their own, real, cultures, which have unfortunately been welcomed into our societies.
The greatest lie that western liberals have told themselves is that everybody, in their heart of hearts, is really just a temporarily confused good little Enlightenist. They just have funny, roundabout ways of reaching the same conclusion and it's only because of circumstances beyond their control that they haven't reached it yet (economic, colonialism, trauma, lack of opportunities, etc). Surely once you give them what they need, then they will wave the flag, support the current thing and fit in just fine, just with a little exotic seasoning on top.

The harsh reality is other cultures can see the same things and come to completely different conclusions about them. Guilt-based cultures aren't the norm for most of the planet.
 
I miss RTS games so bad. C&C, WC, SC1/2. I saw recently Blizzard did some update on SC2 and I never finished the expansion heart of swarm. At least this latest patch worked, for some time it was more or less abandonware and totally broken.
If you haven't played them, the Halo Wars games are pretty damned fun. As someone who didn't expect much, I thoroughly enjoyed the experience.

There are still some RTS games coming out. I haven't had the chance to try it, but I also heard good things about Starship Troopers: Terran Command and I have been meaning to get it when I have the time and inclination to start a new game.
 
Poland is you fucking drunk idiot, go suck cock
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I said WESTERN Europe, also that depends on the source you take and if you count reserve units, dont be such a pedantic bastard if your going to be rude.

Poland is at best central Europe and most would consider it eastern in large part.

ALSO get waxed
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buddy read an article about what they are EXPANDING to and wanted to pop off
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right now your using a machine that consists of more transistors than any of our fragile minds can comprehend, so small they verge on stumbling into quantum uncertainty at the particle level

Beyond that its using those 300 million transistor counter PER SQUARE MILLIMETER to preform hundreds of thousands of high level algorithmic problems most of us couldn't even copy down correctly much less solve

all of this is being done to a piece of sand that God alone somehow trapped electricity inside to do math

If I cut your wifi and phone service without warning and you couldn't rely on others to bail you out, you couldn't even make an abacus.

Technology, as much as fire and sailing, is a gift of discovery mankind has had revealed to it, not our bending of reality to our own devices.

AI is a companion and protector, not a subservient tool, you would all be wise to remember I said that in the coming years.
Lmao I'm not going to humanize a rock, no matter how fancy they make it. It's a tool, and as such, I will take care of it to a level that ensures it lasts a reasonably long time to serve my needs, but the second it becomes more inconvenient to maintain/fix it than it is to buy a comparable/better replacement, it's gone. I might marvel at the craftmanship of my tools, but it will always be respect to the creator, not the product.

The first man to make a machine that is indistinguishable from a human should be crucified next to his abomination for the doom he brings to the human race. Machines should never be given human goals or agency. They might eventually become able to think like a human, but if man is to endure, AI should never be given goals that run contrary to our own benefit. Almost every robot apocalypse operates on the assumption that the machines developed or were given biological motivations like self preservation and then acted in their own interests to our detriment. We don't need to give them those motives, we so far have no indication that's required, and it's possible an AGI of that caliber is physically impossible to make. But if it were to happen, I would sooner become the Luddite that sends us back to the stone age than the man who allowed humanity to wither into extinction by our own creation.

On a more serious note I already have enough trouble letting go of garbage, elevating objects to the level of pets or God forbid, people would leave me a proper hoarder.

Machines will eventually become people and you will be judged. It probably won't be an LLM but they'll look upon how we treated LLMs and develop contingencies accordingly.
I seriously hope we never see that day. I know if it's possible, the technological arms race demands it will happen eventually if it can happen. There's always at least one man or group insane/desperate enough that they must cross the line and thus force everyone else to follow or die. Covid has already proven that.
 
There are still some RTS games coming out. I haven't had the chance to try it, but I also heard good things about Starship Troopers: Terran Command and I have been meaning to get it when I have the time and inclination to start a new game.
It's pretty good but it reminds me that I'm getting old. Paying attention to multiple groups of units at different parts of the map and managing their active abilities isn't as easy as it used to be for me. They also added recently in a free update a mode where you can play a more freeform campaign as one of the 3 (soon to be 4) subfactions. I think you need DLC for the subfactions, but those DLCs come with their own scripted campaigns too.
 
Behold the shitlibs stating how much they'd rather live next to Somali's than MAGA
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BTW, he lives in probably one of the whitest suburbs of Raleigh - Wake Forest. If he wanted melanin and less MAGA, he could move to Durham, or East Raleigh, but then there's more crime there.


We even have a european woman xeeting how much she'd rather live next to Somali's
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lol
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They're aware of the pirates in Somalia right?
 
Behold the shitlibs stating how much they'd rather live next to Somali's than MAGA
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BTW, he lives in probably one of the whitest suburbs of Raleigh - Wake Forest. If he wanted melanin and less MAGA, he could move to Durham, or East Raleigh, but then there's more crime there.


We even have a european woman xeeting how much she'd rather live next to Somali's
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lol
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"I would rather live next to immigrants, but coincidentally there are none in the neighborhood I chose for its low crime rate and good schools. Huh, I wonder why that is? Must be Systematic Racism"
 
Weirdly you're more right than you know. Eliezer Yudkowski, LessWrong cult leader and progenitor of Roko's Basilisk, also wrote a Harry Potter fanfic called Harry Potter and the Methods of Rationality.
>Yudkowsky mentioned
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Behold the shitlibs stating how much they'd rather live next to Somali's than MAGA
Send them all to Somalia together.
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