Betsy Dupuis Ask Me Anything

[Maldavius Figtree]

So what is this now? A year old account with 5 total messages just happens to find this thread right in time to have OPs back? Totes not sus at all bruh. Whatever your fishing for here, a personal army or piggy bank, while there is no form for this combo, request denied.

This whole thread glows. Schizos have been known to run literally dozens of accounts in parallel, so who knows.

 

[mailfrawd]

This whole thread glows. Schizos have been known to run literally dozens of accounts in parallel, so who knows.

Yea, they do, but I assume the mods also have tools to detect and call this out (browser fingerprinting, date/time access patterns, etc).

I'm guessing if this were happening we'd know about it rather quick.

 

[Tismguide]

Declared Insane for Speaking Up: The Dark American History of Silencing Women Through Psychiatry

Oh I'm well aware. There's also "sluggish schizophrenia" in the Soviet Union. These strategies are effective because they are plausible. Consider Ian Murdock and Dragos Ruiu. I can only evaluate what you wrote and how it comes across, not your actual state of mind. I hope you will post more information once you are free to do so, and time will tell. Good luck.

 

[paperwork]

Half of this thread is the same few fuckwits trying to shit it up and make it hard to read. Don't you glowies have something better to do? You know your country is circling the drain right?

At least try and be less obvious?

 

[Artificial Stupidity]

Y’all are on a whole ass website dedicated that talking about LFJ stalking you guys with evidence that they’re actually stalking members like @mailfrawd . Wtf are you talking about?

And you decided to come here, post and ask for donations? Seems like odd behaviour to me considering everything you know about LFJ. He isn't stalking us just trying to remove us from the internet.

Yea, they do, but I assume the mods also have tools to detect and call this out (browser fingerprinting, date/time access patterns, etc).

I'm guessing if this were happening we'd know about it rather quick.

It's a big site, a small nudge here and there is required sometimes. But we may have an extraordinary skizo on our hands. Either way I've gone ahead and asked mods to at least have a look hopefully we are the skizos.


Edit: circumstantial.

 

[unsilence]

He isn't stalking

Hiring a private investigator to write a dossier on unmasking and doxxing @mailfrawd isn’t stalking?

 

[unsilence]

Half of this thread is the same few fuckwits trying to shit it up and make it hard to read. Don't you glowies have something better to do? You know your country is circling the drain right?

At least try and be less obvious?

Yeah, I mean if anyone is running a bunch of burner accounts it's probably these guys being one guy.

 

[Artificial Stupidity]

Hiring a private investigator to write a dossier on unmasking and doxxing @mailfrawd isn’t stalking?

Not in my opinion, it's shitty but Elliot has fuck you money to do his best to "unmask" as he put it the people who knew of him & tell stories about him.

Calling it stalking is very much the language of all the lolcows who get documented for being stupid and not learning from their retarded behaviour, mailfrawd told anecdotes of what Elliot was like irl and that inturn upset thwomp and was used to make mailfrawd a person non grata in the industry unless I'm mistaken as it was some time ago now.

Did Elliot sue him? Because I don't think anything he said was actionable as far as a lawsuit would require and only further proves anything mailfrawd said to be legally solid and Elliot to cry about being hurt because someone he knows laughs at him behind his back (everyone does because nobody likes troons).

Imagine having all that money and being ass blasted because people laugh at you because you chopped off your cock, Elliot just needs to live his life and not worry about what people think or say about him.

Yeah, I mean if anyone is running a bunch of burner accounts it's probably these guys being one guy.

Meds now!

 

[The Internet Dick]

Apparently, you have no idea how lawyers actually work

Betsy, I know how lawyers work not because I'm an attorney but because I've spent serious time with and around them. Given Kiwi Farms' reputation, I strongly doubt your attorney approves of your thread here. If sane, he or she is probably worried whatever you show us on KF will become instantaneously transmorgified into fruit from the poisonous tree.

That aside, you're showing your cards in the one place on the Internet where you know Liz Fong-Jones will be sure to notice. What we're talking about when we're talking about Elliot Fong-Jones is a misshapen, castrated, Clown World freak with near-unlimited resources. From his perspective, you've just actively allied with his greatest enemy--keeping in mind this is a guy who actually thinks in those exaggerated, grandiose terms: My Greatest Enemy. If you thought Fong-Jones had it in for you before, imagine now. I find it hard to believe you or anyone would risk incurring that psychotic troon's wrath for an ~$18,000 legal fee, but if Null says you are who you say you are, then okay, sure.

I appreciate the window you've given us into that shady, spooky world you once inhabited. I'm sorry you feel hunted and afraid. That's no way to live or be.

 

[unsilence]

I strongly doubt your attorney approves of your thread here

You’re right posting here at all is probably not advisable which is why I’m being limited and ignoring attempts to bait me into disclosing stuff that I legally can’t.

I came here because I know there’s people that want to stop LFJ and I’m in a unique position to get discovery that Moon can’t get.

Unfortunately, asking for money, doesn’t work when you don’t provide any information so I’m keeping it in bounds.

Since you know how lawyers work, you probably understand that I’m disclosing within limitations to make this interesting and not anything more than that.

If it were up to lawyers everyone that ever existed would lock themselves in their house and not talk to anyone ever give them a $5k retainer every month. Before someone says schizo again please look the word hyperbole up in the dictionary.

 

[Maldavius Figtree]

being limited and ignoring attempts to bait me into disclosing stuff that I legally can’t.

You've now publicly named and accused numerous people, many of them unrelated to your case, of being rapists, domestic abusers, attempted murderers, corrupt DAs, stalkers, snuff porn consumers, human traffickers, participants in child sex orgies - but claim to be legally prevented from providing any evidence. Not even in private to null.

Girl, if you want those big GoFundMe bucks, you gotta give us more than that. We all want Elliot to go down, but we can't just send out tugboats to anyone with a wild story.

worried whatever you show us on KF will become instantaneously transmorgified into fruit from the poisonous tree.

What are you even talking about?
FOTPT means feds obtaining evidence illegally, e.g. cops search your home without a warrant or gain a confession through torture. It does not and cannot apply to willing witnesses/victims (even if the cops had only found them through illegal means). No law prevents victims from sharing evidence publicly.

if Null says you are who you say you are, then okay

Maybe that is why so many users here engage with the delusions? Null verified her identity, not her story.

 

[Artificial Stupidity]

Null verified her identity, not her story

This. Yes it's confirmed they are who they state they are not the veracity of the claims, personally my dislike for Elliot doesn't translate into funding random posters.

 

[unsilence]

We all want Elliot to go down, but we can't just send out tugboats to anyone with a wild story.

Pretty sure this isn’t everyday occurrence.

How much money are you planning on donating to get me violate legal advice?

Honestly, your obsession with this is giving schizo vibes.

 

[Xev]

This thread


So the skizo is who they claim to be. Big whop. It's also likely the skizo is having convos with its own alts. Something doesn't jive. Once this retard accepts that there is no pay day here they will fuck off. Hoping for an epic crash out arc on their way out.

 

[The Internet Dick]

What are you even talking about?
FOTPT means feds obtaining evidence illegally, e.g. cops search your home without a warrant or gain a confession through torture. It does not and cannot apply to willing witnesses/victims (even if the cops had only found them through illegal means). No law prevents victims from sharing evidence publicly.

Lighten up, Nancy. My point is Kiwi Farms is portrayed in media and widely perceived to be Bastion of All That Is Evil. Putting stuff on here to broadcast your truth or advance your cause or raise money or whatever the fuck might be a bad idea since your cause would be tainted by the association; i.e., the poisonous tree.

 

[mailfrawd]

Hiring a private investigator to write a dossier on unmasking and doxxing @mailfrawd isn’t stalking?

I'd call it unhinged, but I'm not being stalked ... at least not that I'm aware of.

Maybe that is why so many users here engage with the delusions?

I mean, it is a gossip forum.

<snip> personally my dislike for Elliot doesn't translate into funding random posters

Some people might have more disposable income than others and my opinion is the milk is fresh, either way. Another lolsuit? People have gambled on dumber stuff.

 

[unsilence]

I'm inviting @Doug S to this thread to back me up on the New Knowledge stuff.

 

[Doug S]

I'm inviting @Doug S to this thread to back me up on the New Knowledge stuff.

I’m going to go through some of the stuff I still have regarding New Knowledge and Prop Or Not.

For anyone curious about Betsy and her claims surrounding these people, I have never seen her post anything that is inaccurate. She’s the person you want to go to regarding this. No one else is out here publicly telling you what these people are involved in or what their goals are.

Furthermore…

Neal Rauhauser? Also involved with ratting out Wikileaks source Manning and is close to multiple people involved with New Knowledge.

The entire reason I even know that New Knowledge exists is because they seemed to start bothering me and my friends…for no real reason. This is a common theme with Rauhauser and me. Once he’s involved with something or someone, they eventually end up smearing me. A perfect example of this is Jim Stewartson. The entire reason Jim spent two years relentlessly smearing me publicly is because Rauhauser was involved and close to him. Ditto on New Knowledge.

I do find it interesting as well that as soon as any thread pops up that mentions him or groups he associates with, there’s an awful lot of forum sliding, consensus cracking, and other nifty little tactics. You can find them all in the Gentleman’s Guide to Forum Spies. It’s something that he loves and sticks to with his bullshit; that can be a smearing of an individual, needing to get attention off of a thing you did, etc

https://archive.is/i8WyP

I will say that I need to catch up on this topic as it’s something that I haven’t kept up with for at least a year.

 

[Doug S]

I was personally told that the NSA was infiltrating 4chan and 8chan by my former coworker and 15 year NSA veteran, Ryan Fox.

Do you know the scope of the effort? For example, is it just single humans trying to steer conversations a certain way? Or is it more? Are they doing the hard way (manually following and targeting topics or did they create some simple software to scrape info?)

One great tool for Twitter manipulation was Tweet Attacks. It would allow a single user to operate an infinite number of accounts all while looking unique to both users and staff. I’m curious if these groups have developed anything like this. If so, do you know any specifics?

 

[unsilence]

Do you know the scope of the effort? For example, is it just single humans trying to steer conversations a certain way? Or is it more? Are they doing the hard way (manually following and targeting topics or did they create some simple software to scrape info?)

One great tool for Twitter manipulation was Tweet Attacks. It would allow a single user to operate an infinite number of accounts all while looking unique to both users and staff. I’m curious if these groups have developed anything like this. If so, do you know any specifics?

I’m not really sure how many people were working on it but I know Ryan Fox was doing it manually. He probably had multiple accounts.

He didn’t really give me a lot of details other than using aliases to gain the trust of people and then trying to get invited to discords where presumably they would be plotting terrorism.

New Knowledge was scraping and using bot accounts so maybe that’s what he was doing.

There is some stuff about the Kiwi Farms effort from FBI counterintelligence.