Meeting people & loneliness epidemic

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I've never struggled making friends or meeting people back in university, but I went through multiple cycles of my friends graduating and moving away. Now it's happened again. I've moved for a job, and am alone in a new city where I don't speak the local language, though virtually everyone can speak English here. While I seemingly make great impressions on people I meet, I do hold disdain for the common glossy-eyed NPC, so I end up being generally picky about the relationships I invest in and maintain. Back in university the constant exposure through lectures, roommates, house parties, and nights out naturally led to many encounters, and interesting people with some edge to them were easier to spot. Good social circles naturally compounded and grew. And I've been fortunate to have some incredible people as friends, but the move left me at square zero and they are now all scattered far away.

For the last year and a half I'm just in a lonely cycle of working, maintaining fitness, the last vestiges of mental health, doing my little hobbies (which don't involve me leaving the house), and lurking. I'm sociable and adaptable, but I'm afraid this will atrophy and drift if I keep going like this. Men in general are known not to maintain relationships as well as women, romanticizing the grind and the lone journey, but in the long run being alone is not sustainable if you want to get anywhere in life. Women are naturally good at relationships and are perpetually meeting people for the sake of meeting people; men usually need a common goal or activity - playful competition, creating something together, fixing a lawnmower etc. There are many other factors making things difficult - like the disappearing of third spaces, masculinity crisis, the loss of male rites of passage and so on but I leave that for discussion.

I've been called judgmental by an ex on the count of my selectivity with friends; but I see this as a compliment - I keep myself to a high standard and the rest of my life reflects that. That's why I thought after all this time lurking I'd ask here. Some of you are perhaps a bit morose, sullen, but you are critical and most of you don't have shit for brains. Curious to hear your experiences if you've been in a somewhat similar situation to this, and I suspect a lot of you are or might have been.

I want to meet people who don't live on autopilot. I want to be a part of a group who want to better themselves / their environment, are reliable, and reinforce / support this in each-other. People who live purposefully, like to do or create things together, and aren't just passive intravenous drip consumers of life, but most importantly, are aware, critical of, and not afraid to (in private) speak the truth the circus we live in.

The only other social thing I've been doing is dating via apps and it's fucking abysmal. Dates go well, but it takes little time for the can of worms to open. Sometimes I'm surprised that such a cutie can be both single and interested in me. Two months in and I know exactly why she's single, and why in all likelihood forever will be. By now my red flag sonar is so tuned I could sense a shrimp busting a nut on a coral on the other side of the planet in the near future. It's demoralizing. But I know for a fact there's great men and women all around, I just find myself in a situation where I don't have a platform to meet them. All of my best friendships and relationships in the past happened organically. Now the free ride is over. And even if you do meet people in your in your late 20s or 30s you aren't very likely to have the bonding experiences like you do when you're younger - for example being chased down the street by bathrobe-clad machete wielding arabs you pissed off.

I had time to start playing vidya in the last year where I managed to meet some cool people, but of course, not close by. Two years ago this would've been unthinkable to me, but here I am joining the 'male loneliness epidemic'. Signing up for some social meetup bullshit just feels disingenuous. I just don't see going hiking with randos, or cooking classes giving me what I'm looking for, but maybe that's just my pride talking.

What's your situation and where do you find exposure to people that meet your needs?
 
And even if you do meet people in your in your late 20s or 30s you aren't very likely to have the bonding experiences like you do when you're younger - for example being chased down the street by bathrobe-clad machete wielding arabs you pissed off.
What?

Anyway, I'm of the opinion that "male loneliness" is nothing more than a societal filter, and some people were meant to be sifted by it. You can decide for yourself whether you want to finally break through that filter or just stop giving a shit about it entirely - it is what it is.
 
So let's break this down. You work, you're fit, you have hobbies, and you're putting yourself out there constantly on dating apps, and yet somehow every single one of these cute women is entirely and unequivocally the problem. You admit you have high standards, that you're selective with friends and people have called you on this, and that you're too proud for the kind of "social meetup bullshit" adults generally go to when they want to make adult friends. Your "best" relationships, the ones you had in the past, obviously didn't stick. Lastly, you're asking for help here on Kiwi Farms.

I think there's something you're not telling us, and that you're not the hot commodity you think you are.
 
Your bar is way too fucking high.

Just find a pub or bar and go there on the regular at the same time on the same days. Thats how men after a certain age make friends.

Consistency is key.

I'd steer clear of dating apps unless youre just looking for a quick hookup with a chick who has BPD. Decent girls dont use them.
 
The forum that exists to laugh at losers and make people feel bad is a bold place to bare your heart and look for support.
Why not? Nobody gives a shit anyway, and the responses are either accurate or at least candid. My bar is probably too high and something to reflect on. The only reason I added the personal context is to say I'm not socially retarded - in fact my retardation is my core source of strength. I should've framed the thread more clearly to focus on activities / hobbies / venues to meet people in a new town. I'll see ya niggas at the pub & padel court
 
My bar is probably too high and something to reflect on.
I was going to write a bit on this with my own experiences as a high-standards person and explain psychological mechanisms, but that got me thinking on a broader point, which is very important in determining whether the advice or wisdom I could share is going to be helpful or harmful

The broader point I'd like you to consider is the notion of state-dependent versus state-independent preferences
Think about food preferences. Do your food preferences change when you're super hungry? Does safety change your appetite for risk? Does fatigue change your social thresholds? Do particular situations change what feels compelling or repulsive to you?
If yes, that means you fall into the category of people whose preferences are state-dependent
It means that, from your current perspective, your taste and preferences are a product of your situation, and if you were to get into a new state, your system would recalibrate. As in, what once looked attractive now becomes irrelevant, and what looked intolerable becomes neutral or attractive

Personally I am not like this whatsoever, I'm very much in the state-independent preferences camp. Things I find revolting remain revolting no matter how repeated exposure is, and low-quality stuff does not become tolerable to me. But you gotta know yourself in these matters.
If you're in the former camp (state-dependent preferences), then the unfortunate reality is that, from your current perspective, you simply have no good way to judge whether you would be happier or better off in an alternative situation. You'd be judging a hypothetical state using the evaluative machinery of your current state, yet that machinery is not designed to assess states that it's not in right now. Therefore any predictions you'd make are systematically unreliable.
However, if you relate more to what I'm saying about myself, if you do not experience preference shifts from transient physiological or emotional states, if your valuations are stable, rigid, and invariant, then the problem changes. The decision problem now is a matter of whether the transition cost is low enough.
 
I've moved for a job, and am alone in a new city where I don't speak the local language, though virtually everyone can speak English here.
Have you ever considered that throwing away all your roots and connections in the pursuit of empty money, in a foreign city no less, is in fact retarded? You're looking for an oxymoron: holistic, purposeful, well-rounded people willing to stuff themselves into a small box in a shitty concrete jungle for numbers in their bank account. You don't want to live an atomized life around atomized people? Then quit being an atomized person who looks at people like utilities to meet your needs, easy to throw away the second they don't meet your current use case. Go live in a place with grass and churches and call your old friends up.
 
Have you ever considered that throwing away all your roots and connections in the pursuit of empty money, in a foreign city no less, is in fact retarded?
A lot of people nowadays will move away from everything they've ever known or loved at the drop of a hat. I'm not saying you need to live with mommy and daddy still but roots seem to be very important. I moved out of my hometown but I'm still decently close by. And I don't think I'd ever leave my state either. It just feels like home I guess. It's become very normal to put thousands of miles between you and your friends and family and I just don't get it.
 
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