US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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It's one of those things that will always emerge from human nature. A successful rebellion turns into a new ruling class and the cycles of history continue turning.
That is pretty much the truth. The cartels are in control of Mexico, and together they dominate an industry worth billions, more than most shitty nations make. Just a damn shame they couldn't resist the temptation and make Mexico an actual nation.
 
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I know this isent breaking news, I include it for context
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They clearly "get along" for a good period of time and recently to boot

So id be curious to hear how you all feel about the timing of his turn on her when the only thing that has "changed recently" is this
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if trump can flip just one of these people the vote to release documents wont go through, so lets add one more wrinkle to this
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So Trump tried to strong arm Bobert to the point she now thinks its a conspiracy
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Failing that he is now just trying to attack the credibility of the other perceived weakest of the 4 politically.

the wild part is, if you all remember the school house rock song, passing a vote in the house is only 1/3rd of the process assuming there it goes flawlessly so trump is going helter skelter to stop even a pointless successful vote on this issue even if it would get killed by the senate
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Im hearing alot of people make pretty baseless attacks on both of the female politicians in question on old past actions but I ask you, why did those actions not stop trump from first and for so long embracing her and endorsing her?

I think any logical person looking at this has to come to the conclusion trump is terrified of any possibility of those documents even being discussed and I think the big question needs to be why?

Im not saying you have to agree with my conclusion but Id like to have a real discussion about this and not just a shit throwing contest. Id love to see a well sourced counter point that shows another plausible motive other than just a few lines of an opinion framed as objective fact.
 
Okay so i gotta ask y'all fellow kiwis because every time it comes up it just keeps picking at my Brain.
What is actually in those files that gets trump so antsy?
Like we're all certain it's not outright pedo shit because A. The Dems would have dumped that on us sometime in the last 5 years, and B. He wouldn't have campaigned on releasing them in the first place
But It can't just be nothing, why else would he keep doubling/tripling/quadrupling down every time it's brought up now.
 
What is actually in those files that gets trump so antsy?
If I had to guess, it would be proof that Epstein was an Israeli spy and that his connections with Trump bolstered his campaign with jewish assistance.

Trump has been way too cowardly and soy filled when it comes to Netanyahu. If Netanyahu walked into the oval office and told Trump to suck his dick, I bet he would do it. Perhaps we shouldn't have been investigating Russian collusion but Likud collusion. Because the Likud party are the ones who are running the show in the US going by their refusal to follow basic ceasefires and constantly cucking Trump on the peace process.
 
Okay so i gotta ask y'all fellow kiwis because every time it comes up it just keeps picking at my Brain.
What is actually in those files that gets trump so antsy?
Like we're all certain it's not outright pedo shit because A. The Dems would have dumped that on us sometime in the last 5 years, and B. He wouldn't have campaigned on releasing them in the first place
But It can't just be nothing, why else would he keep doubling/tripling/quadrupling down every time it's brought up now.

I mean if I'm gonna speculate on what he doesn't want people to see about him, I would say the most mundane (but not likely) reason could be some white-collar crime shit like slush funds and hidden accounts, etc, that could affect his assets and wealth, and could also extend to his family as well

But then again that also raises the question, why didn't the democrats leak those already so idk. I don't think it's some big illuminati bullshit or pedophile paradise or anything like that, but it's probably not legal stuff
 
Okay so i gotta ask y'all fellow kiwis because every time it comes up it just keeps picking at my Brain.
What is actually in those files that gets trump so antsy?
Like we're all certain it's not outright pedo shit because A. The Dems would have dumped that on us sometime in the last 5 years, and B. He wouldn't have campaigned on releasing them in the first place
But It can't just be nothing, why else would he keep doubling/tripling/quadrupling down every time it's brought up now.
My thought process is
>they have been altered to smear Trump
>there are people from both sides + mossad agents who don't want that out

Either way, it's a toxic pile of shit that we'll probably never get to know the truth of and it works as a distraction for both sides to important issues like H-1Bs.

It's not even about justice anymore it's about seeing if the other side's people are in them. I do 100% believe that they are covering for someone, not necessarily Trump, though.

If people gave a shit they'd be right now outside of the houses of people who voted to not release them in the first place back when Epstein was alive. Even if they were to release them, how the fuck would you know that what you are looking at is true?

I can only hope that every nigger who went on that island, red or blue, burns in hell like they deserve to.
 
What is actually in those files that gets trump so antsy?
President Trump wants to get things done in American Politics, which means he has to work with American Politicians. American Politicians are funded and connected to the kinds of people that the Epstein docs would create bad publicity for, **even if there isn't actionable information inside of them that can be levied for criminal charges**. Outright saying this would be too consequential, so he opts to change the subject to more productive goals wrt immigration, foreign policy, et al.

Democrat politicians are also concerned about their funders and social connectors being negatively affected by the release of the docs, but they made the calculation that they're going to get their shekels *anyway* and that it's worth cynically exploiting the docs as a cudgel to lash out at Trump with
 
Okay so i gotta ask y'all fellow kiwis because every time it comes up it just keeps picking at my Brain.
What is actually in those files that gets trump so antsy?
Like we're all certain it's not outright pedo shit because A. The Dems would have dumped that on us sometime in the last 5 years, and B. He wouldn't have campaigned on releasing them in the first place
But It can't just be nothing, why else would he keep doubling/tripling/quadrupling down every time it's brought up now.

I feel like it has to do with Israel or some other donor class

There is also the possibility that Democrats did some sort of 4D chess and waited for the release of the files to be as damaging as possible (When were in a situation of "oh fuck, what do we do now that our current sitting president raped children")

Everytime a president has gotten into some hot water legally it's basically been white collar shit no one actually cares about outside of political brownie points. Actual proof of raping kids is a lot more serious than that. Like what do we seriously do in that situation? Emergency Election? Give presidency to JD? let Trump sit it out till 2028?

No one will agree on what to do and I seriously think it would cause Civil War 2000s edition to break out.

That being said this relies on the idea of Democrats being smart and every action they've made the past eight years have shown that that's incredibly unlikely.

So my head tells me Israel or someone very close/important to Trump is on there
 
want trump to go to Mar-a-Lago and just sit on the beach for the next 3 years and let Miller essentially be president for the rest of the term. he is easily the most "our guy" member of the administration
I’m amazed how easily people are still deceived by the small hats.
What has he actually done? He says the same things people in no position of power say? Cool.
He’s in a position of power. Do something.
 
Okay so i gotta ask y'all fellow kiwis because every time it comes up it just keeps picking at my Brain.
What is actually in those files that gets trump so antsy?
Like we're all certain it's not outright pedo shit because A. The Dems would have dumped that on us sometime in the last 5 years, and B. He wouldn't have campaigned on releasing them in the first place
But It can't just be nothing, why else would he keep doubling/tripling/quadrupling down every time it's brought up now.
What has him so antsy is Jeffrey Epstein didn't keep a Little Black Book of Pedos, and everyone chimping out over its non-procurement is wasting time and energy. Problem is on his own side, multiple retards, including retards in his admin, went all-in on believing it was buried in a box somewhere and they were going to uncover it. The Qtard wing of the MAGA movement can't be satiated at this point, same with the alt-right who was looking for a reason to go sulk in a corner instead. This gives the Democrats room to make hay with poison-pilled bills to "release the list," which they like wise know doesn't exist, and faggots like Thomas Massie cause to undermine the admin as well. The coalition is fraying as a result, and there's no clear way to unfuck the situation.
 
Okay so i gotta ask y'all fellow kiwis because every time it comes up it just keeps picking at my Brain.
What is actually in those files that gets trump so antsy?
The money men behind epstein, that is reason he's willing to tank his 2nd term. Gates, hoffman isn't a concern. Wexner goes down and the entire group of money men behind it all goes down.
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that's just the guy we know about, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Study_Group_(Jewish_group) Wexner and bronfman are tied at the hip. bronfman has direct ties to that nvim or whatever sex cult from a few years back. That is what trump is afraid of, a group (with direct ties to mossad) would be terrifying to have after you.

You start pulling threads like that, you start fuckign with very powerful people like that, your family gets killed.
 
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