💬 Off-Topic Random Trans Thoughts, Musings, and Questions - For all your armchair psych and general sperging

[Hum Humina]

Who are these people? It really calls into question why we are passing laws to appeal to these people when they literally are so non existing irl that I wonder if people on the left are getting gaslighted by social media to double down on this.

Even when my kid was desisited before falling back into the cult, most days, I couldn't leave the house without seeing troons and poons. Of the people I know who had daughters within three years of my kid, the majority of their daughters are now pooners or theyfabs. The clusterfuck comes in clusters.

I saw I saw the TV glow with her, and we debated how much of it was an allegory for being trans vs just generally being true to oneself

99% troon propaganda. Made by a troon. Loved by troons. Have seen multiple men talk about how it cracked their egg. I call it Social Contagion: The Motion Picture for a reason.

(My young adult daughter watched it a few months before repooning. When I am really tired and irrational about this shit, I half-blame that for reinfesting her with the brainworms.)

Watching the kid circling the drain must be very taxing on the parent's own mental health tho.

Can confirm that. I would say especially if it's your only child, but I am no longer as sure about that having talked with some of them. It's probably taken five years off my life so far.

 

[DatBepisTho]

They're going to be talking about troonism clusters in the future the same way we discuss and study cancer clusters, today.

- Testing the soil and wildlife type studying, I hope. It can't just be a detriment to us with those fake hormones.

 

[█████████]

They're going to be talking about troonism clusters in the future the same way we discuss and study cancer clusters, today.

- Testing the soil and wildlife type studying, I hope. It can't just be a detriment to us with those fake hormones.

It's already an observed fact that trannies have a higher rate of mental illnesses and personality disorders. As well as paraphilias. And paraphilias tend to cluster.

 

[merrybrandybuck]

Also I think I have discovered people who are immune to MtF trannies,

Yeah it's everybody including other mtf trannies. They're the single least desirable demographic on the planet. There's a handful of faggots "chasing" aka occasionally swiping right on them and they're all bottoms btw which infuriates the common troon.

 

[█████████]

Yeah it's everybody including other mtf trannies. They're the single least desirable demographic on the planet. There's a handful of faggots "chasing" aka occasionally swiping right on them and they're all bottoms btw which infuriates the common troon.

The reason T4T couples are common isn't because MTFs prefer other MTFs, but is actually because MTFs are so undesireable to non-MTFs that they have to resort to going prison gay for each other. Most of them would probably abandon their rat-king-esque MTF T4T polycules if they found a willing True And Honest woman to have sex with.

 

[SouthernBitchBob]

It's the refusal to believe that any of it could be maladaptive that's bothering me today. Let's pretend for five seconds that the whole package isn't gross. Pretend we don't know about the boundary-violating, biology-ignoring, gooning, fetishistic things all of us here are well aware are part-and-parcel of the standard troonout welcome package. Ask your local troon about the hormone cocktails. The most I guarantee you'll get is something like "there are side-effects but it's minor and so worth how much better things are!" If anyone here has ever been a little off with their personal hormone load, you know what even a relatively small deviation in your hormones does to your life experience. It's not minor. Taking enormous doses of cross-sex hormones makes you a -crazy person-. The moment any troon I've met started the estrogen cocktails, he became an emotionally unstable, reactive landmine of a person. You cannot convince me that's "better".

 

[bouquetnine]

The moment any troon I've met started the estrogen cocktails, he became an emotionally unstable, reactive landmine of a person. You cannot convince me that's "better".

Estrogen is a mood booster. It genuinely induces a kind of mania that makes them "happy". This is the "gender euphoria" they talk about, and why they refuse to admit there is anything wrong with the path they're on. It makes them immune to self-reflection.

 

[SouthernBitchBob]

Estrogen is a mood booster. It genuinely induces a kind of mania that makes them "happy". This is the "gender euphoria" they talk about, and why they refuse to admit there is anything wrong with the path they're on. It makes them immune to self-reflection.

My thoughts exactly, about ten minutes after writing it. The troons I've known have friends who describe them as "happy". That's not the impression I get. I'm not sensing happy, I'm sensing manic. The smiles have a little too much grit in the teeth, the ability to flip on a dime from "ecstatic" to HOWDAREYOU GETOUT TRANSPHOBE REEEEEE is all classic manic behavior.

 

[Athena Save Us!]

I saw a thread, I think, on r/asktransgender (totally not a grooming sub) that asked why MTFs display so many backwards, stereotypical behaviors. I knew that they weren't going to admit that it's all part of the fetish or that they really have such sexist views about how men and women are, but I didn't expect the answer I read.

Basically, they agreed that they had to act uber-feminine because that's what society expects of them. They won't be taken seriously as real women if they don't act more stereotypically feminine than real women, and they totally wish they didn't have to.

This got me thinking. Obviously, these answers were blatant lies, but let's pretend they're true for a second. They transitioned to "be themselves", right? They were unhappy with being forced to act a certain way as their birth sex, so they transitioned, but now they're still being forced to act. In fact, according to them, to pressure to act a certain way and perform gender a certain way is far, far stricter on a tranny than on a normal person.

So, what did they gain? They still aren't able to just be themselves. Even if they were a flaming effeminate man, no one would tell them that they don't believe they are truly male, they'd just peg them as a faggoty male. In other words, they had more freedom to act as they wanted to as men than as transwomen. If anything, they're in a tighter straightjacket now than they were before, so they haven't accomplished anything.

I would love to point out their complete lack of logic, but I don't want to be responsible if they turn around and axe murder the person closest to them because they can't cope.

 

[Stabby_Pencil]

I wonder if a lot of the issues can be drawn back to them not being able to distinguish 'happiness' from 'mania'. If you were genuinely happy nobodies words could bring you down, however that is not the case with mania. Mania can go from manic highs to depressive lows, and mania matches a lot of what's going on with them.

 

[The Lawgiver]

I find very interesting how "Queers" (Not only trannies, bisexual girls or gay men too) are interested in the same media: deltarune, undertale, homestuck.

You forgot the other ones, fallout new vegas, Bionicle, 07th expansion works, a few others. The common through-line is that these were all media that were extremely popular online in general at some point, deltarune technically still being big and recent enough that they can't fully silence or shut down anyone not in their big gay club. It's not that these things are inherently tied to the people that have latched on, it's a symptom of the greater fake ass hell world that's been forming the last decade and accelerated post corona. They try framing/using it as a signaler but not in a hookup/friendgroup seeking way like gay guys that liked wizard of oz or lord of the rings did decades back where it was but as part of an ever growing purity spiral of performative "hyperfixations". Oh god, I am not gonna go into my whole fucking tirade again right now while I'm out of it like this but I'm just gonna say once again I FUCKING HATE THIS IDEA THAT BEING "NEURODIVERGENT" APPERENTLY MEANS YOU HAVE NO SAY OVER WHAT YOU'RE INTERESTED IN. The re-labelling of "interests" to "special interests" to "hyperfixations" has me wanting to gouge my eye out sometimes man.

Anyways, long story short, it's not because they actually like the things a lot of the time. Sometimes they actually like stuff but the warping of everything popular into some absolute "queer" sludge really fucking is tiring. It's been tiring since a decade back when that shit started, it's tiring now when it's still fucking happening but even worse

the female ghost

...Napstablooks cousin is never implied or stated to be a girl what the fuck are you talking about? Is it because his house is pink? Is it because he talks like the sex robot from WKUK? How did he get here? What does he want?

Estrogen is a mood booster

I'm pretty sure it's a bit more than just a "mood booster". if you're taking fucking hormones to try and boost your mood you're gonna end up really fucked up. It's not gonna alter your appearance though, for some reason troons have over a decade's worth of visual proof of that and yet they still insist hormones are magic gender units that change your appearance based on how many you down. Expensive hormone guzzzling and expensive plastic surgery and they're still fucking miserable and porn addicted.

 

[FinnSven]

The more that these effects are described and explained, the more it makes me think of dystopian sci fi stories about new drug crazes and neo-cults.

Not the drugging population to keep them quiet and dulled sort of angle, the newly manufactured drugs which make people amazingly high or believe particular things about themselves, while isolating them from peers and family.

Oh, the future is now!

 

[SouthernBitchBob]

Now I have a hypothesis brewing. Autism and troonery have an observable overlap (or, at least autists appear to be uniquely vulnerable to trans grooming). Autism comes with a known difficulty in reading social cues and other peoples' emotions. Perhaps they more easily believe the "gender euphoria" chicanery because they can't feel the vibe difference between genuine happiness and mania?

 

[Aunt Carol]

They're going to be talking about troonism clusters in the future the same way we discuss and study cancer clusters, today.

If "they" wanted to, they could talk about troon and poon clusters in exactly the same way they used to talk about outbreaks of cutters or eating disorders or teenage suicides.

Probably could dust off the same studies and mitigation strategies from 30 years ago, too.

 

[Not A Bunny]

Now I have a hypothesis brewing. Autism and troonery have an observable overlap (or, at least autists appear to be uniquely vulnerable to trans grooming). Autism comes with a known difficulty in reading social cues and other peoples' emotions. Perhaps they more easily believe the "gender euphoria" chicanery because they can't feel the vibe difference between genuine happiness and mania?

My theory on the link between being trans and being autistic comes from the reinforcement of the idea of obsessiveness among autists: I'm obsessive, and because I'm obsessive, I've looked at all the details and all the angles and I've come to the conclusion that I'm unshakably right.

So if I told you I'm trans, it's because I've looked at all the details, and come to a conclusion, and you can't possibly have done all the research I did, so, I'm right and you're not.

I have a theory that we tend to have mistaken "obsessive" for "smart" in autists. Thus, when we have people with autism running around, they tend to be influenced by what is in the majority stream of what information they're taking in. It's not surprising then, if many autists are drawn to video games, and trans (or people claiming to be trans) are all appearing around them, well, suddenly, hey, how interesting, and this means something.

 

[NiKo's Deagle Miss]

You forgot the other ones, fallout new vegas, Bionicle, 07th expansion works

That's more trannies. I'm talking more about pooners.
Look at this image, month ago viral on Xitter.

Spoiler

Have you ever seen a straight man into this type of music?

 

[Polexia Aphrodisia]

Now I have a hypothesis brewing. Autism and troonery have an observable overlap (or, at least autists appear to be uniquely vulnerable to trans grooming). Autism comes with a known difficulty in reading social cues and other peoples' emotions. Perhaps they more easily believe the "gender euphoria" chicanery because they can't feel the vibe difference between genuine happiness and mania?

Autistic people may also feel some kind of disconnect to people around them and an inherent "otherness/wrongness" about themselves. This is because of the autism, but since you can't cure or get rid of autism, "the problem is your gender, which you can change at will and in any way you want!" is a much easier answer and probably makes a lot of sense to autists who didn't get along with their same-gender peers or whose interests don't conform to stereotypically gendered interests in the first place.

 

[The Lawgiver]

they can't feel the vibe difference between genuine happiness and mania?

As someone who'd had moments of genuine happiness treated like mania by others surrounding me that always bitch about me being negative (WOW WONDER WHY I'M ANGRY ALL THE TIME HAHA) I don't think it's mania or happiness, but rather they fee the need to perform the act of happiness. Manic is not calm and smug self aggrandizing holier than thou shit waxing poetic about "trans joy" and shit. That's someone who knows there's specific tickboxes they have to fill now that they've made a choice and losing themselves to it.

This is because of the autism,

I don't think a feeling of "otherness" is caused by autism, at least not directly. I feel it's important to make that distinction because of all the shit that people frame as being inherently tied to autism rather than normal shit people go through and think about worded in a way that removes agency from people.

 

[Julie Newmar]

As someone who'd had moments of genuine happiness treated like mania by others surrounding me (that always bitch about me being negative (WOW WONDER WHY I'M ANGRY ALL THE TIME HAHA) I don't think it's mania or happiness, but rather they fee the need to perform the act of happiness. Manic is not calm and smug self aggrandizing holier than thou shit waxing poetic about "trans joy" and shit. That's someone who knows there's specific tickboxes they have to fill now that they've made a choice and losing themselves to it.


I don't think a feeling of "otherness" is caused by autism, at least not directly.

I agree, to an extent, about it not quite being like mania. The closest I’ve seen with regards to volatility, initial calm, and performative happiness/smug self-assurance (different personalities go either way) is someone using juuuust the right amount of amphetamine.

Also, as far as otherness and autism, a further question since I’m genuinely curious: do you think an indirect feeling of it is caused by external observation (“huh, you act weird”) or pattern recognition (“huh, I don’t quite act like everyone else”)?

 

[The Lawgiver]

Also, as far as otherness and autism, a further question since I’m genuinely curious: do you think an indirect feeling of it is caused by external observation (“huh, you act weird”) or pattern recognition (“huh, I don’t quite act like everyone else”)?

A little bit of both, with a number of other factors like having feelings about things and not always being able to properly get them into a sentence structure others will actually get the point of. The recent "neurodivergent/neurodiversity" culture shit that has now codified the tumblr performative fake autism into the "real" one likely makes it even worse for some even if the air about it is "Positive". We're reaching a time where there are people that didn't live through or know anything before the constant fake fucking political spin machine of the last decade . Even if they don't fully get it on a conscious level you can tell these people to some degree in the back of their head know this is wrong and weird and so they play up their parts to an even more extreme extent to hold onto some of that structure, even if it's not a 100% genuine structure.