‘Men seem to make life for women worse’: single US women share the woes of dating in 2025

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By 2030, 45% of prime working age women in the US, defined as women aged between 25 and 44, will be single according to Census Bureau historical data and Morgan Stanley forecasts – the largest share in history.

Hundreds of those women, from across the US, shared with the Guardian why they were single, how they felt about it and what they would be looking for in a future partner if they were still in the market for one.

“I hated being single after my last relationship broke down,” said Sarah, 43, a sales representative from California. “I miss having someone to cook for, to share things with. But now, my motto is: ‘My alone feels so good, I’ll only have you if your presence is sweeter than my solitude.’”

Many of the responses were surprisingly similar. The most frequently listed qualities women said they were looking for in a partner were kindness and emotional intelligence, mental and physical health, shared values, ambition and being “hardworking”, financial stability, masculinity and maturity, and a willingness to commit to an equal, monogamous relationship as well as, in many cases, having a family.

One of the phrases respondents used the most was that they were looking for a partner capable of “adding to” or “enhancing” their life – as in, someone who was entirely self-sufficient and capable of adding romance, children or a unique intellectual connection to their lives. A large number of women complained about past suitors who had been “lacking effort” or “unable to keep up”.

Babet, 32, a beautician from New York City, echoed hundreds of other respondents across ages and socioeconomic backgrounds.

“I would love to have a partner, but it seems like the men are super low effort,” she said. “Not responding on dating apps, not effectively communicating, not wanting to plan dates. A lot of men seem to actively make life for women worse instead of better … No matter what women say they look for in a relationship, it is completely ignored by men.”

Kellie, 43, from Georgia, joined the substantial number of respondents who felt that social media narratives had made dating toxic and pitted men against women.

“I wish I could have met my person before the stupid gender wars, social media and red pill rhetoric that has ruined people’s view of dating and marriage,” she said.

Scores of women said that nobody available they had encountered met what they considered “basic requirements”.

“I’m looking for a man who … has goals and ambition, is intelligent, trustworthy, a provider, supportive, considerate, kind, assertive, masculine, honest, faithful, intentional, has a healthy self-esteem and a sense of humour, loves to go out, and likes fitness. These basic qualities are hard to find these days,” she said.

Although many women said they found being single “lonely”, they also typically said that they would not consider anyone who did not tick these or similar boxes.

Katie, 37, a biotechnology product manager from Wisconsin, said she had felt unable to look for a new partner since her last breakup in 2021.

A partner should ideally have “a robust social life, a focus on holistic health, compassionate and forthright communication skills, and functional independence”, she said.

“I’m happy to compromise on things. The bar is extremely low, and yet it’s rarely cleared.”

Hundreds reported struggling to find a partner with shared values, political views and interests, and a similar education level, with many pointing to a deepening mismatch between men and women in these areas.

Danielle, 29, a public relations professional from Tennessee, said her future partner would need to be “kind, thoughtful, emotionally available, considerate, reliable, and responsible”, but also “college educated”.

“I’m very disheartened by the shortage of quality men,” she added. “Men my age are less educated, their social skills are abysmal, and now they’re running into the arms of Trump and ‘incel’ forums.”

Laura, in her 40s, from San Francisco, said she had been single for the better part of a decade since her divorce despite having used many dating apps and having attended been dozens of single events.

“There’s an imbalance between education levels now in the US. Many men don’t want to date someone who’s more educated or makes more money than them. There’s also the Peter Pan syndrome: a lot of men here don’t seem to want to grow up and take on the responsibilities of adulthood or a committed partnership,” she said.

Although almost all women who were looking for a partner did not cite standout levels of professional or financial success as a priority, financial self-sufficiency was crucial for many. Various women stressed that they were searching for a socioeconomic equal.

Kelly Wallace, 48, a consultant from Portland, said: “I’m a self-employed high earner. I’m working on a memoir, own rental property and have struggled with finding someone who is like me: creative and high earning. I don’t drink or smoke and I don’t want a partner who does either.”

While most women elaborated on their experience of being single in a social sense, some explained why they were legally single despite wanting to be married to their current partner.

Susan, 40, a social worker from Ohio, said that her long-term boyfriend’s economic situation had become a permanent obstacle for marriage.

“He wants to be working full-time with a decent wage before getting married and having a family. He hasn’t [managed that], so we haven’t moved to the next step. I’m still hoping marriage will happen, but have mostly given up on anything changing.

“The idea of breaking up and trying to find someone else seems pretty hopeless at this age, so I’ve basically resigned myself to never having kids.”

Some respondents reported feeling so disheartened by the world of dating that they had given up actively looking for a partner despite still wanting one, among them Raina, a 41-year-old doctor from Washington state.

“My experience on dating apps over the last few years has been dismal,” she said.

Like many others, Raina cited men who had not actively “worked” on their mental health as a main hurdle in her search for a partner.

“I find most men my age have a lot of baggage and they’re not actively working to process their traumas,” she said. “It feels like taking on a partner would be like taking on another job – someone to care for physically and emotionally – when men can’t seem to offer the same to me in return.”

She felt “devastated” about being single “most of the time”, she added, and felt, like dozens of other women, that she was being punished for her professional and emotional progress.

“I feel like my career and ambition have diminished my dating pool,” she said.

Kristina, 32, a mental health therapist from Chicago, said she had withdrawn from active dating after she had been dumped by someone who did not want to commit.

Although Kristina reported feeling overall very happy being single, she did have concerns about her ability to have children.

“Women are freer than ever to make their own lives outside of the confines of romantic relationships, but the ‘biological clock’ thing weighs heavily on my mind.”

Christal Sharp, 39, a self-employed art teacher and wedding photographer from Oregon, was among many women who said drinking, drug use and other addictions among men, especially to porn, were a major factor in why they could not find a worthy partner.

“I tried internet dating after my divorce and … I only met men who were emotionally immature, wanted [someone] to take care of them or had major addictions to drugs, alcohol, gambling, video gaming and porn. Most guys were just looking for a woman to sleep with, not grow with.”

While many respondents said they would like to have a partner, others prioritised their careers, families and personal interests. In many such cases, the financial independence these women enjoyed appeared to substantially contribute to this mindset.

“I am 35, a homeowner, have a decent income and one older child,” said Lauryn, from Connecticut.

Although she would love to meet “someone hardworking, honest and loyal”, she was “very comfortable being alone”, she said.

Randi, 33, a government policy analyst from Chicago, said she had stopped dating entirely.

“I’m not looking for a partner because … it’s not that important to me,” she said. “I let go of the notion that a long-term relationship is an accomplishment I must fulfil to be successful.

“I can afford my living expenses while saving for retirement. I have considered becoming a single mother via fostering or adoption. I’d rather commit to raising a child alone than go through the efforts of dating and finding a suitable partner.”

While some women reported feeling happy that they could afford being single thanks to their decent incomes, others said that the financial cost of being single was the main drawback of not settling down with a partner.

“I find dating to be more trouble than it’s worth. The one thing is that being single is very expensive,” said Nicole, 42, a high school teacher from Portland, Oregon. “The US seems designed for couples and families. Rent keeps going up, other costs are as well. It would just be nice to share the burdens with another person.”

Various respondents made clear that they had no intentions to couple up.

“I’m single by choice because dating nowadays is a waste of time,” said Valerie Gregorio, a 27-year-old from Maryland.

“I’m not looking for anyone, I value my freedom and independence too much. I still live with my family because everything is too expensive and I want to save as much money as possible, especially since I’m not making six figures currently.

“I’m ready to accept being single for the rest of my life.”

The Guardian
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Kiwifarms dating and hookup forum when?
Lock it to T&H only and watch the revenues SOAR.
EDIT: Oh, and make it available to only people with 2+ years and 2,000+ posts.
Self-sustaining lolcow ecosystem but then we'd turn into rdrama, seriously, check out the slapfights going on in that thread rn over who fucked/didn't fuck/tried to fuck who
 
Sure, me chasing women at night doesn't make their lives easier but it is not exactly easy for me either, ladies.
 
You need money for that.
Not really. I mean, yes, you'll probably be the one to pay for things while dating, but that happens whether you're dating a 20 year old or a 40 year old. You will probably be spending less dating the 20 year old, all else being equal.

Unless you're doing something stupid like "dating" a literal whore, but that's not really the conversation.
 
For women there is always someone better, or more attractive, if the relationship runs into the slightest bit of trouble. It’s the old isle in the supermarket with endless choices of detergent or cereal, so you end up forever browsing and go home with an empty basket.
Fucking a. Theres no reason to genuinely invest in someone or see things through when at the drop of a hat you can have a new man doing his damnedest to please you.
 
One of the big problems with meeting people nowadays is that in prior decades a lot of people would meet through work but now that still happens but is often discouraged or outright banned by companies that don't want to deal with harassment lawsuits.

So basically a huge avenue for men and women with adjacent careers who might have things in common to couple up has been stymied.
 
Really all this boils down to is sour grapes after erroneously buying into the idea you need to "build your career" first and "have fun" (don't look for anything serious) during your 20s. Now, that they realize they cannot live like they're the new young thing on the scene forever they're contending with the fact all the best options got swept up during and post college. All that's left are, well, leftovers. Late bloomer spergs who don't know what they're doing or divorcees who don't want to be "available" anymore, and players aren't as interested anymore because there is a revolving door on newer 20 somethings. The types who have committed to a bachelor lifestyle for any number of reasons aren't even a question. They get the dregs now. Even if you're a completely lovely person it'll be hard dating past a certain age because that's the reality: the good uns usually find their person early enough and if they lost their person and that's why they're back on the market it usually changes their desires and ability for round two.

On the other hand I don't think a lot of these women even want serious relationships. They just like complaining about it to be seen complaining about it because it's topical.
 
The vast vast majority of "good women" out there get married or engaged before they are 30. If a woman is still single past the age of 35, it's a red flag. And I say this as a woman. I know more good men out there who are single past 35 (don't get me wrong, I've seen plenty of beta males of the soy kind too), but I don't know one 35+ year-old woman who is single and not an awful person. lol.
Only seen one case of the over 35 working woman have a long term successful late marriage (still ongoing some 15+ years now). Part of that I suspect was the times + because the man was himself a father and divorcee going into the relationship, and there was this understanding that probably were not going to have kids (they somehow did by happenstance as she hit almost 40 - kid is perfectly fine, step kids get on well with all of them).

But that’s quite different in goals and ideas from these women here who are older and generally looking for someone to make a family with at that late stage or even take on them as single mothers.
 
These women want men who have been sitting in a vacuum for their entire adult lives. Once you're in your 30's, and ESPECIALLY your 40s people are gonna have kids, failed marriages, etc.

Knowing that, dating with marriage in mind is a necessity as soon as you turn 21, max 24. Think. You date for one year. Engaged one year. Married one year then kids. That's three years you need to shelve away with someone if you want to follow a reasonable trajectory. I have some female friends that have been fucking around with the same on again off again guy who will never get serious (and they know he never will). These women want to get married and have kids and they are still playing these games into their late 20s, even early 30s. I'm literally dumb founded, like are y'all bitches not doing the math in your head? As someone in a successful marriage with at least a dozen friends in successful marriages, here's some pro tips for those that want to get married.

- Once you're 24 if you know the relationship won't result in marriage (be honest with yourself, please) you need to dump the person, temporary validation is not worth a lifetime of loneliness. If he hasn't proposed in three years, leave, he doesn't want to get married.
- Dating is a numbers game and a skill, you should be aiming to go out on 2 dates a month minimum if you want to have success. Once a week is better. Yes, it can seem exhausting, but just have fun with it and know your soul mate is worth the slog.
- Look the best you can, or at least be stylish. BMI in a healthy range is gonna give you more options.
- Dating apps can work, but diversification is key. Play the apps, get a part time job at a place with a lot of hot single people (restaurant, gym, recreational area, bar), do a mixed sex hobby that draws in the adult youth. Get active, get uncomfortable, talk and listen to those around you. Enjoy talking to people of all walks of life/ages and it will radiate off you and make you sexier.
- Read a book or have a book in mind you can talk about on the date. Something cool that anyone would find interesting. Makes you look well rounded, increases appeal.
- On your dating app profile - keep it light, less than 4 sentences, try to be funny if you can, have a full body/close up shot, and DON'T BE NEGATIVE.
- Men that are lacking funds, you have to get creative. I've suggested this on here before but a swap meet is a great free first date idea. Go saying you're looking for a piece of furniture and would like her help. Walk around talking about all the stuff for sale, it makes the convo for you. If you hit it off go to the food trucks on site and talk longer after.
- Millennial women - date a gen x. They are less porn/vidya rotted compared to those younger.
- Men, do absolutely whatever you have to do to move out of your parent's home. I can't tell you how many people my girlfriends have swerved because they didn't have their own place. Dozens.

And say whatever you want about being single, but ALL of my friends that are in happy marriages are miles away happier/healthier than those that took the single route. As gay as it sounds, love is the answer
 
And say whatever you want about being single, but ALL of my friends that are in happy marriages are miles away happier/healthier than those that took the single route. As gay as it sounds, love is the answer
Marriage has nothing to do with love; it only involves the state further into what used to be your personal life, as a bonus for paying child support you get a paternity test to prove it's your kid. Society has been at the point where "baby's momma" has become accepted by even the boomers for decades, only retards pay taxes or get married.
 
One of the phrases respondents used the most was that they were looking for a partner capable of “adding to” or “enhancing” their life – as in, someone who was entirely self-sufficient and capable of adding romance, children or a unique intellectual connection to their lives. A large number of women complained about past suitors who had been “lacking effort” or “unable to keep up”.
"I want a REAL MAN who (a bunch of 'challenges' to his manhood; all things she herself could achieve but hasn't) and can engage in DEEP conversation (about my TV shows)!"

Cher, the actual feminist icon, once said that women seek in men what they failed to achieve themselves. Often it's hobbies, passions, intellectual depth, capacity to initiate conversation, and self-love and confidence. Imagine if the genders were swapped in this article: Loser men want a bunch of things they're meant to offer to a woman (who is a sweet queen despite lacking all of these things also).
It's a huge RED FLAG when a woman in a blue city says she can't find a progressive man. That's like saying you can't find coal in Kentucky.
It's nuts to me that politics even matter to americans. Even worse is that it's the first thing you people bring up. Not dick size, not wealth, not job, not distance. Politics.
 
Just reading this makes me, as a man who's unfortunately got several flaws in my life, wanna not even try. My fucking god, I swear these people are in love with fanfic caricatures of men more than actual human men. Maybe that's why they're single? If I had to deal with someone that's so easy to find faults in me, I wouldn't stay either. Those women certainly have flaws too and they'd throw a bitch fit if their man ever tried pointing them out or demanding a change. Modern romance already seems to be a lot like doing never-ending busywork to keep the woman happy as it is, and now women are saying to our faces that he's gotta basically have the perfect mental state and be at least a 7/10 to have even a shot at partnering up.

At this rate everyone in the world is gonna end up single.

I know my response to this is a late one, but I've often got the impression that many feminist critiques of men come from fictional media depictions of men. That the women making the criticisms don't actually interact much with real men.
 
The most consistent flub I've seen these women make on dates is that they'll tell you about their education and career and all the other ways they wasted their fertile years, usually in a tone where they think they're listing desirable qualities rather than irrelevancies, like they do not understand that women doing the things women find attractive in men does not make women more attractive
I mean i would not necessarily call getting an education(depending on the degree of course) a waste.Neither is having some career.Like it or not women make up about 50% of the working population now, get over it son.I will agree that it generally means fuck all when choosing a partner, cause men are not hyper focused on the degree the woman holds or the firms she has worked in.
and then tell you, without a hint of cognitive dissonance, that if the relationship works out, all that stuff that she was just telling you she brings to the table is getting chucked directly onto the shitheap because she wants to be a stay at home mom.
Its..... certainly possible, however unlikely.
 
If he hasn't proposed in three years, leave, he doesn't want to get married.
Might also be a good idea to bring up the topic of marriage if it's really important to you, instead of leaving it beneath the surface like a submarine for the guy to finally broach the topic. I mean, not to suggest women have agency or anything crazy like that
 
Its not venom its the truth . I have son , if tried to keep my son from my husband, he would spend everything he has to bury me legally, I have seen men fighting tooth nail to see their kids majority of the time is simple as getting a lawyer dropping some money the average person can afford to to lose. He couldn't even do that because you're a fail son simple as.
Are you Indian?
 
Honestly thats why I’m going to swear off dating entirely if I’m still single at 40. Theres still over a decade to go but it’s hard to be optimistic about my prospects. I would rather burn all my money on myself than spend even a cent of it on some other man’s spawn. Theres a world of hobbies out there to dabble in.
Videogames and Funko cup shit arent hobbies be adviced.
 
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