‘Men seem to make life for women worse’: single US women share the woes of dating in 2025

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By 2030, 45% of prime working age women in the US, defined as women aged between 25 and 44, will be single according to Census Bureau historical data and Morgan Stanley forecasts – the largest share in history.

Hundreds of those women, from across the US, shared with the Guardian why they were single, how they felt about it and what they would be looking for in a future partner if they were still in the market for one.

“I hated being single after my last relationship broke down,” said Sarah, 43, a sales representative from California. “I miss having someone to cook for, to share things with. But now, my motto is: ‘My alone feels so good, I’ll only have you if your presence is sweeter than my solitude.’”

Many of the responses were surprisingly similar. The most frequently listed qualities women said they were looking for in a partner were kindness and emotional intelligence, mental and physical health, shared values, ambition and being “hardworking”, financial stability, masculinity and maturity, and a willingness to commit to an equal, monogamous relationship as well as, in many cases, having a family.

One of the phrases respondents used the most was that they were looking for a partner capable of “adding to” or “enhancing” their life – as in, someone who was entirely self-sufficient and capable of adding romance, children or a unique intellectual connection to their lives. A large number of women complained about past suitors who had been “lacking effort” or “unable to keep up”.

Babet, 32, a beautician from New York City, echoed hundreds of other respondents across ages and socioeconomic backgrounds.

“I would love to have a partner, but it seems like the men are super low effort,” she said. “Not responding on dating apps, not effectively communicating, not wanting to plan dates. A lot of men seem to actively make life for women worse instead of better … No matter what women say they look for in a relationship, it is completely ignored by men.”

Kellie, 43, from Georgia, joined the substantial number of respondents who felt that social media narratives had made dating toxic and pitted men against women.

“I wish I could have met my person before the stupid gender wars, social media and red pill rhetoric that has ruined people’s view of dating and marriage,” she said.

Scores of women said that nobody available they had encountered met what they considered “basic requirements”.

“I’m looking for a man who … has goals and ambition, is intelligent, trustworthy, a provider, supportive, considerate, kind, assertive, masculine, honest, faithful, intentional, has a healthy self-esteem and a sense of humour, loves to go out, and likes fitness. These basic qualities are hard to find these days,” she said.

Although many women said they found being single “lonely”, they also typically said that they would not consider anyone who did not tick these or similar boxes.

Katie, 37, a biotechnology product manager from Wisconsin, said she had felt unable to look for a new partner since her last breakup in 2021.

A partner should ideally have “a robust social life, a focus on holistic health, compassionate and forthright communication skills, and functional independence”, she said.

“I’m happy to compromise on things. The bar is extremely low, and yet it’s rarely cleared.”

Hundreds reported struggling to find a partner with shared values, political views and interests, and a similar education level, with many pointing to a deepening mismatch between men and women in these areas.

Danielle, 29, a public relations professional from Tennessee, said her future partner would need to be “kind, thoughtful, emotionally available, considerate, reliable, and responsible”, but also “college educated”.

“I’m very disheartened by the shortage of quality men,” she added. “Men my age are less educated, their social skills are abysmal, and now they’re running into the arms of Trump and ‘incel’ forums.”

Laura, in her 40s, from San Francisco, said she had been single for the better part of a decade since her divorce despite having used many dating apps and having attended been dozens of single events.

“There’s an imbalance between education levels now in the US. Many men don’t want to date someone who’s more educated or makes more money than them. There’s also the Peter Pan syndrome: a lot of men here don’t seem to want to grow up and take on the responsibilities of adulthood or a committed partnership,” she said.

Although almost all women who were looking for a partner did not cite standout levels of professional or financial success as a priority, financial self-sufficiency was crucial for many. Various women stressed that they were searching for a socioeconomic equal.

Kelly Wallace, 48, a consultant from Portland, said: “I’m a self-employed high earner. I’m working on a memoir, own rental property and have struggled with finding someone who is like me: creative and high earning. I don’t drink or smoke and I don’t want a partner who does either.”

While most women elaborated on their experience of being single in a social sense, some explained why they were legally single despite wanting to be married to their current partner.

Susan, 40, a social worker from Ohio, said that her long-term boyfriend’s economic situation had become a permanent obstacle for marriage.

“He wants to be working full-time with a decent wage before getting married and having a family. He hasn’t [managed that], so we haven’t moved to the next step. I’m still hoping marriage will happen, but have mostly given up on anything changing.

“The idea of breaking up and trying to find someone else seems pretty hopeless at this age, so I’ve basically resigned myself to never having kids.”

Some respondents reported feeling so disheartened by the world of dating that they had given up actively looking for a partner despite still wanting one, among them Raina, a 41-year-old doctor from Washington state.

“My experience on dating apps over the last few years has been dismal,” she said.

Like many others, Raina cited men who had not actively “worked” on their mental health as a main hurdle in her search for a partner.

“I find most men my age have a lot of baggage and they’re not actively working to process their traumas,” she said. “It feels like taking on a partner would be like taking on another job – someone to care for physically and emotionally – when men can’t seem to offer the same to me in return.”

She felt “devastated” about being single “most of the time”, she added, and felt, like dozens of other women, that she was being punished for her professional and emotional progress.

“I feel like my career and ambition have diminished my dating pool,” she said.

Kristina, 32, a mental health therapist from Chicago, said she had withdrawn from active dating after she had been dumped by someone who did not want to commit.

Although Kristina reported feeling overall very happy being single, she did have concerns about her ability to have children.

“Women are freer than ever to make their own lives outside of the confines of romantic relationships, but the ‘biological clock’ thing weighs heavily on my mind.”

Christal Sharp, 39, a self-employed art teacher and wedding photographer from Oregon, was among many women who said drinking, drug use and other addictions among men, especially to porn, were a major factor in why they could not find a worthy partner.

“I tried internet dating after my divorce and … I only met men who were emotionally immature, wanted [someone] to take care of them or had major addictions to drugs, alcohol, gambling, video gaming and porn. Most guys were just looking for a woman to sleep with, not grow with.”

While many respondents said they would like to have a partner, others prioritised their careers, families and personal interests. In many such cases, the financial independence these women enjoyed appeared to substantially contribute to this mindset.

“I am 35, a homeowner, have a decent income and one older child,” said Lauryn, from Connecticut.

Although she would love to meet “someone hardworking, honest and loyal”, she was “very comfortable being alone”, she said.

Randi, 33, a government policy analyst from Chicago, said she had stopped dating entirely.

“I’m not looking for a partner because … it’s not that important to me,” she said. “I let go of the notion that a long-term relationship is an accomplishment I must fulfil to be successful.

“I can afford my living expenses while saving for retirement. I have considered becoming a single mother via fostering or adoption. I’d rather commit to raising a child alone than go through the efforts of dating and finding a suitable partner.”

While some women reported feeling happy that they could afford being single thanks to their decent incomes, others said that the financial cost of being single was the main drawback of not settling down with a partner.

“I find dating to be more trouble than it’s worth. The one thing is that being single is very expensive,” said Nicole, 42, a high school teacher from Portland, Oregon. “The US seems designed for couples and families. Rent keeps going up, other costs are as well. It would just be nice to share the burdens with another person.”

Various respondents made clear that they had no intentions to couple up.

“I’m single by choice because dating nowadays is a waste of time,” said Valerie Gregorio, a 27-year-old from Maryland.

“I’m not looking for anyone, I value my freedom and independence too much. I still live with my family because everything is too expensive and I want to save as much money as possible, especially since I’m not making six figures currently.

“I’m ready to accept being single for the rest of my life.”

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I posted enough stats showing 60% of the time men winning by just filing and going to court the stats tick up much more higher if you are aggressively pursuing. If you can't be bothered to read beyond 90 % of single parents are women then you have reading comprehension problems . Its not because of the courts its because of men
i dont have a horse in this race, i just wanted to comment, MAN you love collecting hats do you? this isnt TF2.
 
Good for those women. Life’s too short to be attached to an unfulfilling relationship.


I’ve seen too many people, men and women, stay in unhealthy relationships instead of trying to actively solve the problems to make the relationship better or divorce.
Why yes… Being a single parent 50% of the time and trawling Tinder the rest of the time is surely soooo much more fulfilling.

I’m sure they feel super duper fulfilled when they have to cut down on the lifestyle because there’s only one income now, or when they keep getting dumped because few men are interested in a woman in her forties with divorce traumatized kids.

Very empowering and such.

Putting in effort into a relationship is HARD after all, and god forbid someone put their kids before their own wants and desires.



Where are they? I haven’t met a single normal dude in my love quest. The one I thought was normal turned out to be so detached from reality that he thought living out of his car in the middle of a harsh winter was an acceptable norm.

My DMs are open! And as my KF profile clearly shows I’m a totally normal, quality man with zero tendencies towards degeneracy or rescuing battered wives of disgraced lawyers!

My turn-ons are honesty, long walks, and shitposting about Eastern European conflicts.

My turn offs is that Angry broad from the men-hating thread and women who use the term “ick”.
 
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I swear all of these articles are copy-pasted, what with how all the justifications come out and how it's magically never ever ever women's fault. Ever.

The basic reality is that these women think they are too good for the men they qualify for. They are all used up, post wall sluts, probably overweight, with bad attitudes and lots of debt, but they think they deserve Mr. Bigs rather than Bob the fat pipefitter. I guarantee every one of them could get with a normal dude who would put up with her many shortcomings, but that would necessitate her putting up with his shortcomings in turn, and that's much too mundane and realistic for Western women today. God knows I work with enough lonely simps that would absolutely LOVE to marry some 2/10 fat, bitchy ogress just so he has someone who pretends to love him, but even those won't give him a second thought in reality. Being single is always a choice for women. I have no idea how women can have the entire game rigged in their favor and still choose to fail so totally and completely at it.

Personally, I am going to try my luck overseas and find a woman who hasn't had her mind and soul corrupted by feminism. Surely there has to be some decent women left somewhere on the planet. Right? :optimistic:
 
My point still stands retard, your anecdote(as nice as it is) will end up in a dud for most dudes that attempt it in a work environment.
Most attempts a man makes PERIOD will fail. Respect the rejection and move on. Keep trying, you really only have to be successful once. That's just how it works.
Who even referenced #Metoo :story:
Other posters in this thread, and you by implication. If your fear is rejection, that's unavoidable and not limited to work. It's the only reason I see for a person to specifically fear work relationships. I made an assumption here.

@JosephStalin was completely correct. When women see you day in and day out in legitimate places of business, it builds up familiarity. It creates opportunities for conversation, for them to learn more about/socially validate you from third parties, etc. It also gives both parties a social out if there's not mutual interest. You can't just cold approach a woman and expect success. People today live and work in mostly isolation and wonder why nobody wants to date them. They know nothing about you to develop any kind of feelings, what do you expect?

Most of these divorces have to do with women wanting the man to pay child support, get half of their wealth and property.
I hesitate to jump to this conclusion. I have definitely seen this, but I've also seen just as many cases of the husband losing his job and just giving up on life. These things are more complicated than any easy picture we want to paint.

I mean how do you check for that honestly? I know we see anecdotal evidence, but i find it hard to believe vast amounts of women are that retarded.
It's men too. Social media has really ruined people's perception of normal. They see an endless stream of people living "better" and are unhappy with what they have.

Somehow men regretting it more is everything you need to know
Men pay for the divorce, period. It's them paying child support + alimony for decades instead of saving, it's them working shit jobs they hate just to not go to prison. Divorce is freedom for women, but a lifetime burden for men. That is why they regret it more. That is why men are both 3x likely to be homeless and 3x likely to commit suicide. That is also why there are so many dead bedrooms. Better to spend your free time drunk and numb than being a literal slave.

The divorce system is broken. I don't put that on women, but on the government for promoting broken homes. Of course people are going to act in their own self-interest.
 
Men pay for the divorce, period. It's them paying child support + alimony for decades instead of saving
In only 10% of the divorces vet alimony and is limited to few years , average child support payments is 430 usd per month

Just for comparison average cost of a child is between 1200 and 1500 usd, per month. The group homes get 600 usd per kid if its healthy with no whatsoever issues as base payments from the government. Literally you are asked to cover a third of the cost of raising your own child
Wtf are you talking about

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One of the most awful women I've ever known IRL recently got divorced after ~4 years of marriage. She basically forced him into marrying her in the first place, financially abused him, and treated his family like shit. Once the dude's MAGA mom died unexpectedly, she did something that was the final straw for him, and he left her.

The story that she keeps telling people about the divorce is "He changed for the worse after his mom died. I don't know what happened. I didn't see the divorce coming."

She turned 40 this year, and I'm hearing that she's spiraling over it. lol. Couldn't have happened to a nicer bitch.

The vast vast majority of "good women" out there get married or engaged before they are 30. If a woman is still single past the age of 35, it's a red flag. And I say this as a woman. I know more good men out there who are single past 35 (don't get me wrong, I've seen plenty of beta males of the soy kind too), but I don't know one 35+ year-old woman who is single and not an awful person. lol.

The women in this article refuse to look into themselves to see what they could do to improve. Sure, they are guaranteed to be in therapy, but "going to therapy" has become a red flag in of itself these days because the profession has become an absolute fucking joke at this point.
 
BPD only affects roughly 1 in 100 people in the United States. If I see a guy that claims all his exes were “BPD,” he either has an uncanny ability to find an extremely small part of the population to date, or he’s actually lying and has major personality flaws of his own (not necessarily a disorder either, some people are just jerks). It’s a major red flag if a guy claims all his exes are “BPD.”
I am not sure you wanna start going by metrics like that. This article alone has things women do that are similar to what you are talking about.
 
OhboyhereIgotrollingagain

You are not trolling anyone, buddy. You mock these women for being single with no kids, while you are single with no kids. I mean, come on

When is the last time a woman ever looked at you with desire and affection in her eyes? When is the last you kissed a woman? Has it EVER happened?
 
Most attempts a man makes PERIOD will fail. Respect the rejection and move on. Keep trying, you really only have to be successful once. That's just how it works.
Rejection is fine, but her reaction might cause you your job.That is my entire point!
Other posters in this thread, and you by implication. If your fear is rejection, that's unavoidable and not limited to work. It's the only reason I see for a person to specifically fear work relationships. I made an assumption here.

@JosephStalin was completely correct. When women see you day in and day out in legitimate places of business, it builds up familiarity. It creates opportunities for conversation, for them to learn more about/socially validate you from third parties, etc. It also gives both parties a social out if there's not mutual interest. You can't just cold approach a woman and expect success. People today live and work in mostly isolation and wonder why nobody wants to date them. They know nothing about you to develop any kind of feelings, what do you expect?
I agree with your cold approach take, its still better to meet opposites through other social events/interactions though.
Statistics my guy.
Bro, you just show me women initiate divorces,we know that's true.My question is the reasoning for the divorces.
You mock these women for being single with no kids, while you are single with no kids. I mean, come on
Isn't the main difference that OP did not write an article whining about it?
 
Where are they? I haven’t met a single normal dude in my love quest. The one I thought was normal turned out to be so detached from reality that he thought living out of his car in the middle of a harsh winter was an acceptable norm.
that IS an acceptable norm, if you are a single man. where he went wrong is expecting a woman to be able to do that, especially if he was looking to date someone

this is what happens when you get all your views of the opposite sex from porn and social media
 
Danielle, 29, a public relations professional from Tennessee, said her future partner would need to be “kind, thoughtful, emotionally available, considerate, reliable, and responsible”, but also “college educated”.

“I’m very disheartened by the shortage of quality men,” she added. “Men my age are less educated, their social skills are abysmal, and now they’re running into the arms of Trump and ‘incel’ forums.”
"I want a man who is not intellectually inferior and thinks the way I do."
“I find most men my age have a lot of baggage and they’re not actively working to process their traumas,” she said. “It feels like taking on a partner would be like taking on another job – someone to care for physically and emotionally – when men can’t seem to offer the same to me in return.”
"Men should be open with their emotions."
"No, not like that!"
 
You know, I really get what you're saying, but it also offers no room for anything like FEELINGS.
Feelings dont factor into the mindset Mold is describing. The oldschool rules were put in place because you as a woman need a man, not merely want one. It was a necessity without which you were necessarily impoverished, so it becomes very important to date not for love but stability and for what one party provides the other.

"I need a warm safe place to sleep, you want companionship, we both want children. Lets make a deal and sign a contract."

As this applies to you (or a hypothetical you if you're still young-n-dumb idk), You're too old to be led around by your feelings and ideally so too should the men you're dating be. You're not dating for young love, you're dating because you want stable reliable companionship and mutual support as you get older.
 
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