Charlie Kirk: Aftermath, Gravedancing, and Manhunt

Kimmel is going to be safe from the FCC under a comedy/satire defense. However, this is a real can of worms. The basic comedy news format is you relay a news item and then say something funny about it. Kimmel relayed a FAKE NEWS item and said something funny about it. So should we grant this as a loophole for misinformation? Can every Russian bot just say, “Biden stole the election lol” instead of “Biden stole the election” and be in the clear? Kimmel is pulling some real BS here. The FCC should investigate and make their lives difficult but at the end of the day they should not punish it. Viewers, affiliates, and opponents of misinformation should.
Remember even Rachel Maddow argued in court that her show was entitely her opinion and should not be taken as fact.
 
Anyone have detailed info on that NGO/group/troon?
Yep, I have been posting anything I find about the NGO and Armed Queers of SLC in the thread.

tl;dr; Ermiya Fanaeian appears to be an Iranian immigrant who has been courted by the State Department, UN and DNC leadership and has received multiple awards and grants for her political organizing, including recognition by Utah Global Diplomacy, a typical government front style NGO that got all of its funding from the State Department.

AQSLC erased its social media immediately after the attack and Utah Global Diplomacy immediately removed any mention of Fanaeian from its site. The FBI has been investigating all named parties for any knowledge of the Kirk shooting and the State Department issued a statement in which they claimed they are immediately cutting off all ties and funding to the NGO.

If you search any of those names you will find more sources and info in this thread.

 
tl;dr; Ermiya Fanaeian appears to be an Iranian immigrant who has been courted by the State Department, UN and DNC leadership and has received multiple awards and grants for her political organizing, including recognition by Utah Global Diplomacy, a typical government front style NGO that got all of its funding from the State Department.
Isn't Ermiya a dude?
 
Isn't Ermiya a dude?
I was not really sure about that part, but I just found an article by the Tennessee Star which states that he is:

I therefore formally apologize for misgendering Fanaeian as female and referring to him with the incorrect pronouns of she/her.
 
Kimmel is going to be safe from the FCC under a comedy/satire defense. However, this is a real can of worms. The basic comedy news format is you relay a news item and then say something funny about it. Kimmel relayed a FAKE NEWS item and said something funny about it. So should we grant this as a loophole for misinformation? Can every Russian bot just say, “Biden stole the election lol” instead of “Biden stole the election” and be in the clear? Kimmel is pulling some real BS here. The FCC should investigate and make their lives difficult but at the end of the day they should not punish it. Viewers, affiliates, and opponents of misinformation should.
True, but the specific FCC guideline that he violated: Knowingly presenting false evidence as fact, is NOT protected under free speech laws and never has been.
So he not only violated the FCC guidelines but he said something that wasn't protected by the first amendment. I'm starting to think that this was purposely cooked up to redirect some of the heat off of the Charlie Kirk outrage, while giving Kimmel's ratings a temporary boost at the same time.
It's a win win for the left and dip shits everywhere.
 
I feel like this is effectively the end stages of the Democratic Party/ the Left/ Gay Race Communists movement really having no platform other than “Fuck Donald Trump”. I still don’t really love Trump, I am very sympathetic to him and like his energy. I do think that the resistance to him (personal lawfare, obstruction via the courts for his agenda, very gay protests) has overtime made me like him more.

Kirk has been libeled and slandered post-mortem because of his association with Trump. Him calling Kentanji Brown-Jackson and some bitch on the View low IQ was made into some rant about how black women are all low IQ gorilla niggers. His very polite way of saying the Civil Rights Acts broad legal language and selective application that overwrites the Bill of Rights was turned into him being a Klansman. It’s not even really black women parroting this, but insane women and people like Destiny/ the Krassenstein brothers.

This really should not of been all that hard to avoid making into some fight. It should have been a pretty easy conversation with a scapegoat in furries and frustrated young homosexuals.
 
True, but the specific FCC guideline that he violated: Knowingly presenting false evidence as fact, is NOT protected under free speech laws and never has been.
So he not only violated the FCC guidelines but he said something that wasn't protected by the first amendment. I'm starting to think that this was purposely cooked up to redirect some of the heat off of the Charlie Kirk outrage, while giving Kimmel's ratings a temporary boost at the same time.
It's a win win for the left and dip shits everywhere.
No, the issue is that the FCC now has die-hard Trumpers who overreached.

The issue is "Knowingly presenting false evidence as fact", you have to prove that it was knowingly false, and then there is also the fact that it is a Comedie bit.
Should then all comedy be factually correct?

The main issue is, though, that this was the FCC claiming to have put pressure on having Kimmel removed for making fun of Charlie Kirk's death, but the monologue is very milktoast and is making fun of MAGA and Trump, not Kirk.
 
I just came across an interview of Fanaeian conducted by QSaltLake Magazine (Q=queer) and published today:

To my knowledge this is the first time he has publicly commented on the Kirk shooting and investigation. Notably, he continues to spread the "shooter was MAGA" cope:
Do you have any connection at all to the person who carried out the shooting, or insight into why people are trying to link you to it? No. Not at all. They are looking for a convenient target to blame, and I must be their newest poster child of the movements they yearn to suppress. The shooter is a white man, with plenty of evidence that his politics were diametrically opposed to ours. One minute, they claimed he was trans, and the next, they claimed the bullets were trans, and now they are claiming every trans person within the same state as the shooter is responsible. The goal is emotional exploitation, to organize people against anyone who challenges their reactionary politics, and paint them as an enemy. The good news is people are smarter than that and see right through it.
Which is obviously pure deflection at this point as someone so close to the issues at hand would absolutely know that Robinson had a tranny boyfriend.
 
No, the issue is that the FCC now has die-hard Trumpers who overreached.

The issue is "Knowingly presenting false evidence as fact", you have to prove that it was knowingly false, and then there is also the fact that it is a Comedie bit.
Should then all comedy be factually correct?

The main issue is, though, that this was the FCC claiming to have put pressure on having Kimmel removed for making fun of Charlie Kirk's death, but the monologue is very milktoast and is making fun of MAGA and Trump, not Kirk.
I'll care when anyone cares that Rosanne got yeeted by Obama (and I don't even like her personally) the time to care about what Lefty's think or what they have to say about supposed overreach or hypocrisy is over.
 
No, the issue is that the FCC now has die-hard Trumpers who overreached.
No fella, it's pretty clear cut. It was a violation.
The issue is "Knowingly presenting false evidence as fact", you have to prove that it was knowingly false,
The show is filmed earlier the same day. He said this 5 days after the assassination, which was 4 days after the news broke about the kid being a faggot furry antifa tranny chaser. With a team working on the show that big there's no way they didn't know.
and then there is also the fact that it is a Comedie bit.
Should then all comedy be factually correct?
There was not one laugh to be had in the statement he made. It was not a joke, it was a statement. Nobody in the crowd laughed or even applauded, and those people are his audience. Even they know it wasn't a joke, just propaganda that he slipped in before he made the joke about the ballroom.
The main issue is, though, that this was the FCC claiming to have put pressure on having Kimmel removed for making fun of Charlie Kirk's death, but the monologue is very milktoast and is making fun of MAGA and Trump, not Kirk.
The FCC didn't put any pressure on anyone, they just said they would look into it. Disney acted on their own accord and jumped the gun before anything official even happened. I imagine they did that because of the ass blasting they just got handed to them courtesy of Gina Carano for an "undisclosed amount", and that was also because they tried to meddle in stupid political shit.
You can try to frame this however you want but the bottom line is they knew, the intentionally went out there and misled, they weren't joking, and they said something false knowing that it could incite more violence or even impede a law enforcement investigation.
You can do whatever mental gymnastics you want about this to try to make it about Trump and censorship and whatever else you like, but this is a clear violation of FCC guidelines that is not protected under the first amendment. It was done maliciously and purposely and I think it was done to drum up ratings and take attention off the actual shooting.
 
No, the issue is that the FCC now has die-hard Trumpers who overreached.

The issue is "Knowingly presenting false evidence as fact", you have to prove that it was knowingly false, and then there is also the fact that it is a Comedie bit.
Should then all comedy be factually correct?

The main issue is, though, that this was the FCC claiming to have put pressure on having Kimmel removed for making fun of Charlie Kirk's death, but the monologue is very milktoast and is making fun of MAGA and Trump, not Kirk.
1. The idea that anybody could reasonably assume the shooter was MAGA is ridiculous.

2. There was nothing comedic or humorous about Kimmel saying the shooter was MAGA. There wasn't a joke. It was clearly said in a sincere way in order to make the audience believe it was a fact.

Why should we assume the FCC doesn't have the discretionary authority to proceed from there? The FCC is an institution that can exercise it's powers all the time as it sees fit. There's no reason why the FCC couldn't reign in somebody pushing a lie on the public airwaves to further inflame more potential assassins.
 
I see the left doing this quite often. They become autistic when it's convenient for them, like when it was obvious Tyler was a leftist, but because that makes them look bad, they pretend not to understand the obvious signs and said that it wasn't clear what political ideas he had.
"What do you mean by neighbourhood with a good school system? Newark Public Schools has some of the highest per-student funding in the country, a 5:1 student to staff ratio, and Green Communities Weekly featured it on its Walkable Cities list. It's sad that old lady was beaten to death by a mob of Honnuh Row Students, but she was Litrully in one of Fostering Diversity magazine's highest ranked school districts."

[written from the Whitest neighourhood the ShitLib could afford, with no intention of ever sending her kid to Newark Public]
 
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1. The idea that anybody could reasonably assume the shooter was MAGA is ridiculous.

2. There was nothing comedic or humorous about Kimmel saying the shooter was MAGA. There wasn't a joke. It was clearly said in a sincere way in order to make the audience believe it was a fact.

Why should we assume the FCC doesn't have the discretionary authority to proceed from there? The FCC is an institution that can exercise it's powers all the time as it sees fit. There's no reason why the FCC couldn't reign in somebody pushing a lie on the public airwaves to further inflame more potential assassins.
Not even to just inflame more potential assassins, but I imagine that could easily impede law enforcement. If your kid was one of those little queers in the discord with the shooters boyfriend, imagine sitting there wondering to yourself whether or not you should turn in your kid over it.
As soon as you hear Jimmy Kimmel bark that bullshit like a circus seal, your parental denial kicks in and you say "oh there's no way little Jimmy could be involved in this, he's antifa blm lqgbtqq... Not MAGA" and so that parent never makes the call, thus indirectly and unknowingly keeps authorities from being able to grab potentially important evidence.
That's a scenario that you can easily argue in court and win if you were making a case for presenting false evidence as fact.
 
At risk of autism reacts(took my Tylenol this morning) and clock reacts, the way erika was during the memorial was a bit off to me. I get that she’s widowed and it’s a memorial for her deceased husband, but she didn’t seem the most torn up about it, which leads me to suspect their marriage probably wasn’t on the best terms and/or she was having an affair on the side. Just from irl experience, women her age, especially in conservative circles, are very prone to adultery
She's obviously a crisis actor but she's doing a terrific job, especially given the demands of the role. The discussions surrounding her behavior are a credit to the amount of nuance she's breathed into what could've been a very one-note character. These little apparent inconsistencies paradoxically serve to make her more believable.
 
The show is filmed earlier the same day. He said this 5 days after the assassination, which was 4 days after the news broke about the kid being a faggot furry antifa tranny chaser. With a team working on the show that big there's no way they didn't know.
There was not one laugh to be had in the statement he made. It was not a joke, it was a statement. Nobody in the crowd laughed or even applauded, and those people are his audience. Even they know it wasn't a joke, just propaganda that he slipped in before he made the joke about the ballroom.
1. The idea that anybody could reasonably assume the shooter was MAGA is ridiculous.

2. There was nothing comedic or humorous about Kimmel saying the shooter was MAGA. There wasn't a joke. It was clearly said in a sincere way in order to make the audience believe it was a fact.

Why should we assume the FCC doesn't have the discretionary authority to proceed from there? The FCC is an institution that can exercise it's powers all the time as it sees fit. There's no reason why the FCC couldn't reign in somebody pushing a lie on the public airwaves to further inflame more potential assassins.

As you both are the same kind of triggered snowflakes, let me explain this to you.

Saying that he is WRONG about the MAGA is fine. PROVING he intentionally lied is HARD. I personally believe he was a right-wing groyper and one of that faggot Fuentes's followers, and the fact that he is a Tranny chasing Furry only helps to solidify that for me. Now prove me wrong? This is the problem, personal opinions are hard to prove as knowingly false..

Next, the "IT WAS NOT A JOKE OR FUNNYYYYYY!!!!!" and the retarded faggot cope you cunts use. This does not matter, as Kimmel is not selling his show as a news show. He is making a late-night comedy show, and even if I don't think he is funny. Does not matter.
Having the opinion that Comedy should be factually correct is a fucking retarded stance to take.

Now, if he had joked that "I hope more Charlie Kirk like killings happen," then yes, that could be something you can come after him for. However, being wrong is not enough. Let's face it, the only reason you retards care is because you are trigger little faggot snowflakes and you know it.
 
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Creative Undertale themed grave dancing.

It was clearly said in a sincere way in order to make the audience believe it was a fact.

You could make the case that he is so deranged that he actually believes the shooter was a traditionalist conservative.
 
Saying that he is WRONG about the MAGA is fine. PROVING he intentionally lied is HARD. I personally believe he was a right-wing groyper and one of that faggot Fuentes's followers, and the fact that he is a Tranny chasing Furry only helps to solidify that for me. Now prove me wrong? This is the problem, personal opinions are hard to prove.
The FCC is the governing body of the public airwaves. They are not a defendant on trial. They don't have to plead their case in a court of law, they are the law. Just because the Republicans have acted like a bunch of cucked, uniparty RINOs for a long time now doesn't invalidate the power of the FCC. They don't have to beg the corporations they govern for their consent to act.
Next, the "IT WAS NOT A JOKE OR FUNNYYYYYY!!!!!" and the retarded faggot cope you cunts use. This does not matter, as Kimmel is not selling his show as a news show. He is making a late-night comedy show, and even if I don't think he is funny. Does not matter.
Having the opinion that Comedy should be factually correct is a fucking retarded stance to take
You're saying self-declared comedians are untouchable even if they aren't making a joke? No, comedy doesn't have to be factual, but, again, Kimmel wasn't joking when he said what he said. There is no logic to your argument,
 
Saying that he is WRONG about the MAGA is fine. PROVING he intentionally lied is HARD. I personally believe he was a right-wing groyper and one of that faggot Fuentes's followers, and the fact that he is a Tranny chasing Furry only helps to solidify that for me. Now prove me wrong? This is the problem, personal opinions are hard to prove as knowingly false..
You are just trying to justify why you want to commit evil on Americans. So lying is no big deal for a Ghoul like you.
 
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