US US Politics General 2: Hope Edition - Discussion of President Trump and other politicians

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Should be a wild four years.

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"If speech is violence, then some are bound to conclude that violence is justified to stop speech; and we're not going to let that be justified."
 
who does Trump wrestle?

Trump vs God at Wrestlemania, Jacob and Vince already did it, might as well get in on it too

The Jew is right. I can understood forgiveness for some things, but forgiving one's killers for clear murder done for evil rubs me the wrong way.

Some people conflate forgiveness with hugging it out and letting people get away with wronging you. When Christ was dying on the cross He cried to God "Forgive them father for they know not what they do". God forgave man for murdering His only son, so we can extend it to those that wrong us.

This didn't mean to excuse the actions of Christ's murderers, it's meant to not let that hatred dwell on your heart. Grudges can weigh down your soul. Charlie's killer will still have justice handed out on him for his earthly crime.

Personally I don't believe I could find that forgiveness in my heart if someone murdered my wife and left me a single father but Charlie's wife and Jesus are different from me, and it's something I'd have to work on in such a horrible hypothetical.
 
Women have no place in leadership positions. They consistently fuck things up.
Olga of Kiev was the most rare kind of woman who could be trusted to both run the realm and carry out a comprehensive, brutal, and cunning reprisal against the people who killed her husband. We need more like her.
 
I have to catch up on Bible study, but I never understood the totality of forgiveness when your enemies clear as day would not reciprocate the same onto you.
The idea behind forgiveness is that we have this concept that when we are wronged or believe we're wronged, a moral debt is incurred and the perpetrators owe us moral reparations. Now, what if the person hates me or doesn't even know me? Well, this is a moral debt that will never ever be repaid.
Over time, you end up with a mile long list of moral debts you are tracking—incurred by strangers who don't even know you, politicians, anonymous social media posters, unrepentant criminals. You let the people you hate live rent-free in your head using a debt they never intend to repay.
So why keep track of it?
By forgiving them, you say that you'll forgive that moral debt and stop keeping track of it, instead entrusting the judgment of Christ, and freeing yourself to look towards the future rather than dwell on the worst parts of the past.

If she truly forgives the assassin, Erika prevents him from consuming her life and is able to stop the destruction of grief.
 
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Olga of Kiev was the most rare kind of woman who could be trusted to both run the realm and carry out a comprehensive, brutal, and cunning reprisal against the people who killed her husband. We need more like her.
Thinking in the Margaret Thatcher and Queen Victoria vein.
 
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Olga of Kiev was the most rare kind of woman who could be trusted to both run the realm and carry out a comprehensive, brutal, and cunning reprisal against the people who killed her husband. We need more like her.
Olga of Kyiv did that reprisal when she was a pagan, when she became a Christian she asked forgiveness for that. Never got why people use her as an example vs Deborah
 
Olga of Kyiv did that reprisal when she was a pagan, when she became a Christian she asked forgiveness for that. Never got why people use her as an example vs Deborah
I don't care what faith she held when she killed her husband's murderers and then burned down their homes because the way she did it invokes an eternal form of righteous justice that was carried out here on Earth instead of in the afterlife.

Naturally she had a lot of competent people who helped her carry it out but without a will there is no way.
 
If anybody wants to understand the whole "forgiveness doesn't mean criminals roam free", read Romans 13. God uses executioners* and police as a way to punish evildoers who harm others, perhaps in other ways as well if you understand scripture. You don't have to do a thing yourself.

* Think Utah firing squad in this case.
 
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