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If the constitution you followed brought you here, of what use was the constitution?
The Constitution has protected us but we haven't protected the Constitution enough. The 1st Amendment is the only thing saving you from not having to show your ID to log onto the Internet right now.

The 2nd Amendment didn't get Kirk shot. It is to defend yourself. Selling a gun to a mentally ill troon and shooting someone simply for the act of disagreeing is not upholding the 2nd Amendment, it's the complete fucking opposite.

It tells you what you should do to prevent your country from becoming a shithole, it's an entirely different deal if you let people trample all over it.
 
Nigger, we would all be dead if the Constitution doesn't exist. Literally the only thing that kept Democrats in check in some form when the Democrats hold office, as much as you want to be upset that the Democrats use it against you, you can use it against them all the same, dummy.
Nigger, the constitution is just a piece of paper and the only reason why the dems haven't ripped it to shreds yet is because of the absolute violent shitshow that will happen due to us being an armed population. Even then that hasn't stopped them from chipping away at whenever they can.
Constitutions are for civilized societies, not dirt jungles. To say that the African Constitution isn't followed by Africans therefore America's Constitution is worthless is dumb as hell.
You are almost there. You are right, constitutions are for civilized societies but we have a large subset of the population that is mighty uncivilized which is the problem. We have people that will do everything they can to subvert and deny you your constitutional rights, but when we decide to give them a taste of their own medicine suddenly all the rights they have been trying to destroy are now the most sacred thing to them because deep down they know it is the thin line keeping them safe. They will cheer for you getting shot dead for expressing free speech only to cry about free speech when they get fired for it. They do not respect the constitution and you can't reason with people who want nothing more than you dead. If you want to keep the Tree of Liberty strong and healthy you are going to need to water it. A lot of people are starting to wonder if it is time to water it with progressive commies because it is currently getting watered with patriots.
 
The Constitution is the single document that allows anyone to push back against any of that, which is one of its main purposes. The Constitution "brought us here" in the way that it is not near as bad as if we had pretty much any other country's foundational document. Read some of the Federalist Papers to understand its importance, their arguments are as relevant as ever.
You have to "push back" on those things because they exist right now; the Constitution didn't prevent them at all. As the electorate continues to be diluted with third-worlders, illiterates, innumerates, and so on, they will continue electing more legislators who will continue passing laws that violate the Constitution. The country will continue to be stolen from you. But yeah, go read some documents from the 1700s, definitely a comfortable pacifier.
 
You have to "push back" on those things because they exist right now; the Constitution didn't prevent them at all. As the electorate continues to be diluted with third-worlders, illiterates, innumerates, and so on, they will continue electing more legislators who will continue passing laws that violate the Constitution. The country will continue to be stolen from you. But yeah, go read some documents from the 1700s, definitely a comfortable pacifier.
What are you even trying to say at this point? I haven't kept up with thread regulars in forever but you sound like one of those do-nothing blackpillers.
 
Alex Jones got fined billions of dollars for publishing speech about Sandy Hook. Do you feel like the 1st Amendment keeps Democrats in check?

You can't own select fire weapons or suppressors without a tax stamp. You can't own weapons at all in whole US cities. Do you feel like the 2nd Amendment keeps Democrats in check?

Every piece of information you transmit on the Internet is catalogued by the NSA and backed up to underground servers for all of time. Do you feel like the 4th Amendment keeps Democrats in check?

The government can steal your property via "civil asset forfeiture" without any due process. Do you feel like the 5th Amendment keeps Democrats in check?

They'll throw your grandmother in jail for a guided tour at the capitol building and keep her there for four years without a trial. Do you feel like the 6th Amendment keeps Democrats in check?


If the constitution you followed brought you here, of what use was the constitution?

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These policies don't represent the Constitution in the best light at all I agree, but we can use our Constitution to change all of that if people cared about our Constitution. People don't care about it because they aren't taught about it at a young age like our ancestors were. We defeated the Department of Education which prohibited out Constitution and Founding Fathers be taught in school and they're gone now, it's time to start teaching children about Our Constitution so they understand what that "piece of paper" did for us and what it continues to do for us. We need to teach our Children about ways modern politicians have violated our Constitution so when they are of age they can fix these kinds of things in their own future. That's how America works, change comes from us and it works that way because our Constitution grants it. Most other countries that even have their own Constitutions don't allow this.

Discrediting the Constitution because certain leaders have violated it is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. It's the dumbest thing I've ever heard of and it's literally American suicide. You could make every argument made against the Constitution about the Bible and Christianity. The Bible didn't save Charlie kirk or anyone else murdered in America, so who cares about it? Most people don't even follow the Bible's morals anyway, so who cares, they don't even teach The Bible in regular public schools anyway. What's up with all these politicians talking about the Bible and God and shit when they themselves don't even follow it? Might as well start burning all the bibles and banning it because it's only ever used to be thrown in my face by Redditors who don't care about it.

Obviously that would be heinous, but the left calls for this all the fucking time, and now they are going to have the right join them. This is God's Country and our Constitution is what allows for this to be God's Country. If you don't like our Constitution then I would recommend you move to another Country. Stomping on our Constitution would be the last thing Charlie Kirk would want, Sam Hyde and Nick Fuentes knows this. The thing is, Sam Hyde and Fuentes hated Charlie Kirk when he was alive. I don't mean indifference to him when he was alive like most of us unfortunately had for Charlie when he was alive, Sam Hyde and Nick Fuentes literally hated Charlie Kirk's guts. Don't listen to them when they try to use your grief and sympathy for Charlie Kirk against you. Make no mistake, Sam Hyde has gone mask off just like the Left has and he has shown his true colors, he is a demon and he knows it. If you listen to his advice and so called "wisdom" you will end up burned and destroyed.
 
So a correction on Trump walking ahead, the King signaled for him to walk ahead. This is done because;
a) Security reasons to surprise snipers or attackers, the sniper expects Trump to follow. Trump's security detail would have suggested this well in advance.
b) Power, The more powerful nation goes first, but also because, it is his second visit, Trump goes first, as second state visits are rare.

Twitch is fucked after this.
 
Today on "You Don't Hate Journalists Enough"
https://www.newsweek.com/abc-matt-gutman-tyler-robinson-text-messages-2131116 (Archive)
Reporting after the conclusion of the press conference, Gutman said: "I don't know if we have seen an alleged murder with such specific text messages about the alleged murder weapon, where it was hidden, how it was placed, what was on it.

"But also it was very touching in a way that many of us didn't expect. A very intimate portrait into this relationship between the suspect's roommate and the suspect himself with him repeatedly calling his roommate who was transitioning, calling him 'my love' and 'I want to protect you my love.'

"So, it was this duality of someone who the attorney said not only jeopardized the life of Charlie Kirk and the crowd, but was doing it in front of children, which is one of the aggravating circumstances of this case. And then, on the other hand, he was, you know, speaking so lovingly about his partner."
 
So a correction on Trump walking ahead, the King signaled for him to walk ahead. This is done because;
a) Security reasons to surprise snipers or attackers, the sniper expects Trump to follow. Trump's security detail would have suggested this well in advance.
b) Power, The more powerful nation goes first, but also because, it is his second visit, Trump goes first, as second state visits are rare.

Twitch is fucked after this.
It always amuses me when the kinds of people who get anxiety over calling their bank suddenly become experts in international political social interactions, but only when the guy they don't like is involved. Its like taking financial advice from BossmanJack.
 
Obviously that would be heinous, but the left calls for this all the fucking time, and now they are going to have the right join them. This is God's Country and our Constitution is what allows for this to be God's Country. If you don't like our Constitution then I would recommend you move to another Country. Stomping on our Constitution would be the last thing Charlie Kirk would want,
The left doesn't care for the constitution and they are not leaving. In fact they are importing people from all over who also do not care about the constitution and once that hits critical mass, it is over. We are in a time of crisis and if you want to save the constitution you are going to need to break it. Do you think Lincoln would have won the Civil War if he followed the bill of rights to the letter? While I agree we need to teach the constitution more in schools, we also need to teach the story and values of Cincinnatus. A man the founding fathers clearly respected and is the kind of man we need right now.
 
The left doesn't care for the constitution and they are not leaving. In fact they are importing people from all over who also do not care about the constitution and once that hits critical mass, it is over. We are in a time of crisis and if you want to save the constitution you are going to need to break it. Do you think Lincoln would have won the Civil War if he followed the bill of rights to the letter? While I agree we need to teach the constitution more in schools, we also need to teach the story and values of Cincinnatus. A man the founding fathers clearly respected and is the kind of man we need right now.
Just say what you're getting at. Cut to the chase.
 
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