I have been compiling evidence around the shooter's ideological affiliations. Don't ask me why. This thread moves so fast, unless a person spends an entire day reading through hundreds of pages, they are not going to understand the FACTS of what is going on. I will, to the best of my ability, provide an objective account. I will be lacking in direct evidence, but I want to get this out quickly, so minor things will be missed.
If anybody wants to refute my account, I will do my best to provide evidence of archived photos/links on the specific point they refute, I just don't have time to get all the links and archived photos ready.
First, let's prove definitively that the two misinformation campaigns are wrong:
- Is Tyler Robinson a MAGA/Trump supporter?
Answer: NO EVIDENCE. Based on other evidence, CLOSE TO 0% NO.
(1) His family is MAGA (which implies he would be too)
(2) They pushed his grandma. His grandma Debbie Robinson said her son (his dad) is a "Republican for Trump." She said that Tyler (the alleged shooter) "has never spoke politics to me at all. I don't know any single who's a Democrat. I'm just so confused." SHE'S DELUSIONAL APPARENTLY, she claims that: She insisted there was no way her grandson could be involved, claiming she had never even known him to touch a gun, let alone own one. ”I don't think he ever shot a gun, to tell you the truth,“ she said. 'He doesn't hunt, he's never liked anything like that. I know he doesn't own any guns”.
I don't have time to research gun ownership of Tyler or his family, but we do have a lot of pictures with them with guns, and the general narrative online is that the family participated in gun culture, and we know from Tyler's discord messages he mentions gun drop point. You can do a quick search on any search engine to see.
LINK, this is the source she actually talked to:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...nson-innocent-Charlie-Kirk-assassination.html
(3) He wore a Trump shirt. PROVEN FALSE. It was photoshopped and already admitted. Tim Pool mentioned it in a video on 9/14/2025, the most notable post was on X account @YourAnonCentral which they deleted and clarified.
(4) He donated to Trump campaign. PROVEN FALSE. I don't have time to go through all the records, but my understanding was it was a different Tyler Robinson from Utah.
- Is Tyler Robinson a Groyper?
Answer: NO REAL EVIDENCE, SMELLS LIKE PSYOP.
(1) @YourAnonCentral posted this. I am not a Groyper, so if somebody could clarify, please do. But the Slovak squat tracksuit in relation to pepe meme, does not have a direct correlation to groypers. And if so, this is the absolute best evidence they have.
(2) I will explain later, but there is a furry rabbit-hole in this whole thing and this picture is suspected (but definitely not confirmed) to be Tyler laying down, and the furry is giving the "OK" sign. The "OK" sign (according to our great friends at the ADL) is an "alt" right hate symbol, thus this (somehow) connects to groypers.
(3) One of the bullet casings had "Notices Bulge, OwO What's This?" and apparently this is something said in groyper chats. It smells like fake news to me, but any groypers around, would be nice if you could clarify. From my subjective research, it appears to be more a phrase around the transgender furry community.
The rest of the groyper accusations are simply refutations of the obvious lies in this "groyper" narrative.
(1) "hey fascist, catch" on the bullet casing: is in reference to Charlie Kirk being pro-Israel, which makes him a fascist, and being anti-Israel makes you against fascists.
(2) "bella ciao" on the bullet casing: being a esoteric song in anti-fascist circles, well apparently it was found on a groyper playlist (with 300 subscribers? I don't have spotify can't check). But it is literally an anti-fascist song.
(3) "if you read this you are gay LMAO" on the bullet casing: homophobic, aligning with groypers.
(4) He had a trans boyfriend which makes him even more of a groyper, actually.
It smells like a psyop because of /pol/. Oftentimes when there is a psyop, they start on pol by flooding it with the same topic, in very argumentative tones, often with meme flags and 1PITD. I saw this firsthand.
This also aligns with the typical psyop tactics. Don't ask me why I know this. Those conducting the psyop need to give the masses a common word: "groyper", and it turns out it is far right. For many people, they learn this word and it matches their worldview, they then spam "he was a groyper" wherever they go to flood the zone with likes on social media.
Next, let's state the facts from the US government, without interpretation. It is the Trump administration and a Republican governor of Utah, and we all know they have agendas, but don't worry, this isn't the last step. Let's see:
(1) The Utah governor said that Tyler had "leftist ideology"
(2) The Utah governor said that he was in a relationship with a male transitioning to female
(3) FBI Director Patel said that Tyler's family said that he "subscribed to left-wing ideology"
(4) Trump mentioned (and I think others) that they are investigating leftist groups for any relation to Tyler or the shooting
(5) Tyler is NOT cooperating
(6) His boyfriend IS cooperating
We can of course speculate that the Trump administration has an agenda to push leftists as the cause. But Kiwi, X, and others have some threads of evidence that SUGGEST it is true, whereas the MAGA/Groyper narrative is completely fabricated. I'm not saying this because I'm partisan, I'm saying this because I want to know the truth.
~~~THE BOYFRIEND~~~
Firstly, they found Tyler's boyfriend's Reddit account. He was transitioning and on medication based upon this, it's very clear. His family member also stated he was on transitioning medication. He also had some weird posts, including in the DMT subreddit and stating "if there are aliens I'm manifesting incurable gender dysphoria into their societies." His boyfriend also followed a leftist account on TikTok. There are reports he posted pro-Biden content, but from what I saw it's just a "ridin with Biden" and based upon these young people, it could just be ironic, and based upon his presence in the DMT subreddit, I assume he also partook in things like marijuana, so he could have just been high and shitposting. If somebody has more on this, let me know.
~~~THE PREDICTORS~~~
His boyfriend also followed somebody called "churbum75m (SAW TYLER JUNE 30)", who posted on X after the murder "WE FUCKING DID IT." churbum75m later claimed in private chat "WE ARE JUST TEENAGERS" and his friend said ”we did not kill SHIT". This doesn't mean they are innocent, of course, as it could just be part of their strategy to escape.
churbum75m, however, is not much of a red flag compared to some other users. I would like to verify if these people are in Utah, but I do not know. @fujoshincel (his name is a term related to anime male gay relationships, apparently) posted that he has something BIG coming soon, 5 days prior to the event. After the assassination, he said "Another Chud Bites the Dust." I can pretty much confirm he is trans or at least trans-adjacent based upon picks another person posted here.
Another X user Omar @NajraGalvz posted "Charlie kirk is coming to my college tomorrow i rlly hope someone evaporates him literally", and then later posted "Lets just say something big will happen tomorrow." I'm not 100% confident but also trans-adjacent and had non-binary in their profile.
On TikTok a user called jackson (his searchable name I don't know) posted a video saying "charles james kirk. mr college dropout does NOT know what's coming tomorrow. be ready...this isn't a threat it's a promise" with four blue hearts after that.
The X user @TallyHallAlbum posted on September 3 "itd be funny if someone like Charlie kirk gott shot on September 10th LMAO"
Any more predictors, let me know.
~~~THE GROUP CHAT~~~
I'm getting tired and don't want to write much more, but I'll try my best.
We know that after the shooting but before they found Tyler, there was a group chat discussing it. Tyler was active. He said it was a "doppelganger" and had the same rifle as him, and he eventually joked that he was actually Charlie Kirk looking for a new life. The chat claimed that user Good Boy made him do it. Good Boy left a comment on Tyler's steam profile about child molestation which has been deleted as of now. Good Boy's steam location is in Minnesota. This group chat is super sketchy and everybody in it should be questioned.
~~~THE FURRIES~~~
I'm getting tired and don't want to write much more, but I'll try my best.
Somebody found Tyler's FurAffinity account, which is known for furry art, particularly in sexual acts (I don't know, never been there). There was a bit of confusion because two accounts were found, one was Craftin and another was Craftin247, but I think Craftin247 is correct. It was made two months before the assassination. Apparently, in Utah recently there was a controversy with radical furries, I haven't looked into it yet, but Utah tried to cover up the news (apparently). The head of the furry organization was also found on X posting some weird things about the assassination.
~~~CONCLUSION~~~
There's a ton more screenshots, links, etc. but a lot of it is dead ends and the rest of it, I'm sorry, this is already too long. Good luck.
I'm new to this place, but I see a lot of people in here larping, but they aren't doing shit. All talk. If you want to actually fight against this force which has created Discord blackpill trans furries that want to murder people, stop talking and start doing. We literallly have domestic terrorist sleeper cells in the USA. If you just sit on here larping, you are just another blackpill and not much better than the people that killed him. You are already here, on the corner of the internet, you are basically autistic, you have so much knowledge at your fingertips, while the masses babble like sheep saying "groyper." Help!
At this point, I'm thinking that the assassination was a meme. On the same day there was a school shooting, but nobody cared. To grab headlines now, you have to kill somebody like Charlie Kirk. Many of today's youth fall into the antisocial blackpill of random things like Discord trans-furry groups, and usually this lead to things like self harm. But the best way to get traffic, obviously, is to be more extreme than self harm. What else is self harm? Becoming a transgender. And so Tyler wasn't transgender, this was his way of joining his mentally ill group of online antisocial gamer friends. Maybe transitioning was in his future. But he committed his own version of self harm through making the assassination of Charlie Kirk a meme. Remember, these are teenagers and 20-somethings trapped in the corners of internet culture, at first making ironic jokes before they don't realize they've been unironically blackpilled into believing in nothing but who can make the most off-color joke. These are children; well, they shouldn't be, but society is so infantilized at this point, that a 22 year old on Discord has the mental capacity of a 12 year old. You can say he had "leftist ideology", but the poison goes deeper than that. The poison goes to the point that a 22 year old acted like a 12 year old. Leftist ideology is more adept at utilizing the poisons which indoctrinate our youth, and it has been that way for a long time.