I don't blame a single incel for turning into a misogynist. - And we should count ourselves lucky that there isn't way more of them than there already is.

[Celestial Peace]

Obviously the odds are a lot better for you (a girl gamer) than incels, who typically have hobbies such as: being misogynistic, watching Andrew Tate, firearms, warhammer, or playing videogames. Those hobbies are mostly favoured by men, so the likelihood of finding a women into their hobbies just isn’t that high.

In a previous comment you said that a woman sharing hobbies is a fantasy for most men and incels. Now you imply that incels' problem is they don't have hobbies to share with women.

Which is it?

 

[RybenZ999]

I think incels are just too whiney. Nobody likes whiners. Just live your life and stop caring so much about women lol. Go fuck a hooker if you're that desperate.

That being said, as someone who grew up in a predominantly female household, I do believe some level of misogyny is rooted in truth. Not to mention more socialised people are apparently more likely to be sexist.



Honestly, the answer is kind of in the middle. Guys who have a certain job, run in the right social circles, and are reasonably attractive don’t have to care about gender equality and still will get attention from women. But that doesn't mean it's totally hopeless for anyone else to even try. Incels themselves would probably be revulsed if they ever met the female equivalent of them

 

[Male Idiot]

It will become society's problem eventually.

Demographics is destiny.

The Incel Question has 3 solutions:
-Polygamy with local males. But this raises economic problems. Do each chadmoid needs to pay 5 child supports? Will the incel neets bother to be tasked or just understandable check out? Does the state do it by taxes? Etc.
-Second is mass immigration. If the locals don't reproduce, Hardeep, Sandeep, and Rajeet are very eager to come over, sirs. The problems with this are obvious.
-The third is just the offball crazy skizo ones like arranged marriages, cloning, mass baby factories, and so on. This would also raise some problems, see Romania.

 

[Da Grim Reaper]

Women become misandrist due to abuse, and men become misogynists due to no one wanting to fuck them. So, misogyny is rather pathetic.

 

[Unarmed Gunman]

The increase in incels (and femcels) is natural, just like the increase in homosexuals. It's nature's way of removing shitty, useless DNA from the gene pool.

 

[Skitarii]

Life sucks and then you die. Incels, trannies, communists, terfs, racial supremacists, homosexuals, niggers, atheists, etc all need to learn this lesson. You don't get what you want simply by existing. Boo hoo nigga, go cry about it and find something else to occupy your time with.

 

[The Mighty Banth]

If you want to be loved, be lovable. -ovid

 

[Rekieta’s Broken Penis]

There may or may not have been specific activities within field that were better suitted for men in my family than women, but again, fields they were working and having fun with were a venn diagram of almost a circle.

I don’t believe that’s typical. It’s not descriptive of my grandparents nor representative of how they described the world in which they grew up. It also doesn’t align with depictions of society in historical works of fiction.

A strong gender divide is still prevalent in pastimes as I see it today. For example: I lift weights. My wife goes to yoga. The gym is full of men and her classes women. When you go down the line it just seems that most men have hobbies which other men have, and likewise for women. Therefore, expecting a woman to have the same hobbies as you as a prerequisite for dating is just a bit of a fantasy - especially for incels who tend to have hobbies in which men are hyper dominant.

Most couples have some shared interests, many have no shared interests, very few relationships involve a significant amount of shared interests. That’s why I think it’s a bit of fantasy. It’s like dating a woman with DDs. Yeah, somebody’s dating them but it’s just a fantasy to say “oh I’m only going to date DDs”.

In a previous comment you said that a woman sharing hobbies is a fantasy for most men and incels. Now you imply that incels' problem is they don't have hobbies to share with women.

Which is it?

How are those mutually exclusive?

 

[Male Idiot]

He autistically got it wrong and implies that you should get a hobby that woman find fun. Which wouldn't be a hobby for you, but rather a dating strategy.

But he is right in that with older times it didn't matter. Society expected you to marry, and the husband was able to provide what was required, which was a home, food, etc.

Now it is food, a home, be interesting, be fun, be charming... that's why any men with money just import a filippina or thai lady(boy). This whole connection thing is just a modern invention that seldom works.

 

[Celestial Peace]

I've mentioned this earlier in the thread but it is theorized that many incels are raised by toxic mothers (single and/or married, whatever). Sometimes both parents can be toxic.

How we'll interact with women and what impression we have of them depends on how we are treated by our mothers during childhood. If a mother treats her offspring being manipulative, callous, lying, abusive or some other bullshit, what y'all think this person will think a woman is?

Imagine a nigcel, raised by a single mother of three, his surroundings are made of police raids, drive-bys, shootouts, shermheads and his peers join some gang while all Shaniquas are hood rats seeking Tyrones who're mostly gangbangers with an extensive criminal record because they have that as role model for a man as Shaniquas bore they some niglets while Tyrone gets incarcerated or simply goes out for some milk.

No Shaniqua will give nigcel the time of the day because he's no hustler nor a crackhead. He doesn't have any attributes that are attractive to her.

But, ironically, nigcel is the spawn of a Shaniqua whose son became a target of her frustration towards men.

Nigcel might be too incompetent for thug life so he resorts to a dead-end job while earning peanuts for a wage.

There might be some nigrette who want something for themselves and out of the hood but it ain't Tyrone the gangbanger or Latore the convenience store clerk (potential nigcel) that she'll hook up with.

The same applies to a vatocel named Carlos raised in some greaseball ghetto.

See where I'm getting at?

The whitecel equivalent of nigcel would be the typical trailer park white trash environment. Jimmy isn't into NASCAR shit or isn't build to be an alcoholic wife-beater like Earl or a meth user like Eddie, both being Abigail's only references for men. So Jimmy stands out by default. And, obviously, he's the spawn of a Abigail.

There's this known incel that goes by DBDR and he's an example of what I'm saying: raised by a toxic mother who always had sabotaged him. He always blames genetics but his upbringing set him for failure way early in life if you understand the dynamics between him and his parents. Though I don't know what kind of environment he grew up in.

The point I'm trying to make is: toxic mothers + fucked up social environment + peers with hedonisitic mindset + can't keep up with peer pressure + mental issues left unchecked + couldn't develop further social skills = an incel for life.

How are those mutually exclusive?

It reads like if an incel has only male dominated hobbies, thus can't interact with women, then it implies that incels would solve their problems joining some hobby which isn't as exclusively male. But at the same time you say that it's unlikely that men and women have shared hobbies so that kinda makes it pointless and contradictory. Otherwise it sounded kinda redundant.

Which wouldn't be a hobby for you, but rather a dating strategy.

That hardly works. For an incel, it'll be obvious he's there to try to hook up with someone and women will catch on to that.

This whole connection thing is just a modern invention that seldom works.

Define "connection".

 

[BIG SHOT Autos]

Most couples have some shared interests, many have no shared interests, very few relationships involve a significant amount of shared interests. That’s why I think it’s a bit of fantasy. It’s like dating a woman with DDs. Yeah, somebody’s dating them but it’s just a fantasy to say “oh I’m only going to date DDs”. Yeah, somebody’s dating them but it’s just a fantasy to say “oh I’m only going to date DDs”.

I don't think it's a fair comparison. Physical attributes mean a little bit less than mental essence of a person you're supposed to live long decades with, libido often drops over time. I do agree though that expecting someone to have 100% same hobbies is unrealistic, and arguably also destructive, because differences often work complimentary.

I don’t believe that’s typical. It’s not descriptive of my grandparents nor representative of how they described the world in which they grew up. It also doesn’t align with depictions of society in historical works of fiction.

Most people were working on farms, for example. Some very specific roles might have been better done by men, as they have more upper body strength, some others by women (usually stuff that requires less force, but more long-term endurance) but the general field (pun not intended) was farming itself, plenty of activities were overlapping or at the very least men and women needed to have at least some general idea what the other side is doing and in case with my great grandparents, men and women would sometimes help each other too. Which, again. requires at least knowing what are you helping with and why. In case of one set of my great grandparents, the wife was a weaver, the husband was a taylor, but it would have been retarded of them not to talk about each other's activities because they were into producing clothes together from their estate. He knew how to weave, and she obviously knew how to sew clothes. Even my most sexist relative who referred to hunting and fishing as "I have nooo idea what these men do hoo hoo" would still have a relatively good knowledge of subjects the second she "forgot" it's a "man's thing" and someone would ask her something. That's relationships 101. You live with that person for life. It's impossible not to pick something up from them, or learn to like something they do. I am having a feeling though that we're misunderstanding each other here.

Spoiler: personal autism that I couldn't resist

Yoga is such a creepy thing. Lifting weights and stretching is so much better than a weird worship with obscure positions.

I'm also assuming that where you live there's sex segregation because my gym consists of women more than a half? Isn't it what everyone who wants to stay healthy does? Literally the number one recommendation from every single neurologist.

 

[Dysnomia]

but this is way too seriously-written and way too many words to bury in a thread, please understand.

The incel ideology can be disproven by simply going into public and seeing how many fat ugly retards have successfully reproduced. Incels want high quality pussy handed to them on a silver platter with no effort put forward on their part.

Remember that it's important to shower and act like a human. If you want wemen to have sex with you then you have to be willing to do those things.

 

[Male Idiot]

I can't quote Celestial Peace but yes, faking a hobby is a bad idea unless you are rich and its yachting to Venice every quarter year.

In old times, marriage was just two people who didn't hate each other and conveniently did procreation because it was expected.

Courtship was a basic "I won't beat you and I can hold down a job" from the "moid", and "I'll be loyal and make good food" from the "foid", all was dandy.

They didn't need this soulmate new age bullshit. They comfortably got together, and did their things. The missus read novels about flowers, the balding man of the house went to watch feetsball every month, that was hobbies.

Worst obstacle was the parents in law hating one of them.

 

[Celestial Peace]

They didn't need this soulmate new age bullshit.

That's why I think Romanticism is cancer. New age soulmate bullshit came from that "affirmation of the individual" thing but it enhanced self-aggrandizing behavior and discouraged self-awareness.

Now people come up with some "inner beauty" faggotry when talking about what they seek in a potential partner.

Tinder and the like cranked it up to a 1000.

 

[HOMO FOR LIFE RETURNS]

Women become misandrist due to abuse, and men become misogynists due to no one wanting to fuck them. So, misogyny is rather pathetic.

> Implying women don't abuse men.

 

[Super An Hero]

The key to avoid becoming an incel isn't women its men. And I don't mean homosexuality.

Its easier to befriend people in school because you're surrounded by people of your own age group for 8+ hours a day. Depending on where you live + other reasons you can or cant form a friend group with other men. If you are friends with a couple guys, you hang out in/after school, play video games together, do sports etc your chances of becoming an incel decrease because you will meet females through these friends, and females will see you socializing and not being a basement dweller, and they will be more likely to want to associate with you. Even if you dont score you'll develop the social skills necessary to form relationships so even when you leave that friend group you'll be able go elsewhere to make new friends and finally get the coveted hot gf.

Those who aren't able to do this in high school or college are pretty much fucked but not unsalvageable. Elliot Rodger may have been a hapa but he was not a mongoloid incapable of sex. It takes several months of working out/healthy practices and personal hygiene to look good enough for a woman to want to date or sex you. Elliot was a crybaby autist who believed he was a infalliable god. As a result he had no friends.

Misogyny isn't a side effect of inceldom or the other way around. They both are formed by separate processes but can happen from the same circumstances.

 

[Diggus Bickus]

For the love of god go outside.

 

[The Ugly One]

Kill yourself.

He already said to troon out, don't have to repeat him.

 

[Rekieta’s Broken Penis]

It reads like if an incel has only male dominated hobbies, thus can't interact with women, then it implies that incels would solve their problems joining some hobby which isn't as exclusively male. But at the same time you say that it's unlikely that men and women have shared hobbies so that kinda makes it pointless and contradictory. Otherwise it sounded kinda redundant.

My position is that it’s not a necessary prerequisite to a loving relationship. There’s nothing wrong with desiring it but the skew of hobbies by gender means it isn’t possible for everybody. When it comes to incels specifically, I think the skew of women involved in their hobbies and is likely to be particularly low. So if you say an incel is disregarding women who don’t share their hobbies I say they’re pursuing a fantasy.

I'm also assuming that where you live there's sex segregation because my gym consists of women more than a half? Isn't it what everyone who wants to stay healthy does? Literally the number one recommendation from every single neurologist.

I’m Australian so yes and no. Men and women tend to self-segregate into different activities, besides things like volunteering or social sports.

 

[The Ugly One]

> Implying women don't abuse men.

Putting a boy on drugs because he doesn't behave enough like a girl isn't abuse, chud. It's called being a decent fucking human being.