King of the hill appreciation thread - Yup.

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Just hit the Khan divorce episode, and the recasting was abysmal. At least you can justify Dale sounding like shit as it was the late Johnny Hardwick in his final days. The episode was also mid by the reboots standards, but having to hear Ronny Chieng phone it in the whole time makes leaves the same bad taste in my mouth that the first one does.
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Speaking of Khan's divorce. One Youtuber in this short clip explained the possibles reasons about his divorce.
 
Super-Chevy454 dijo:
Speaking of Khan's divorce. One Youtuber in this short clip explained the possibles reasons about his divorce.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=1JA5Riav-jE
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If there was one couple from the show I expected to get divorced, it was Minh and Khan. More so than even Nancy and Dale. Not that the original series failed to give them redeemable qualities or show that they some good structures in their marriage, but it was clear that neither one was healthy for their own good. They were always they stereotypical asian tiger parents forcing too much onto their own daughter and were obsessed with obtaining high success in life. It isn't shocking that they burned themselves out eventually. Especially when Kahn was shown in the original series to easily fall to the toxic influences of others, often having to be reeled back into sanity by somebody of a more positive influence.

I can envision them both being unhappy and just putting on a facade until their only child left the nest to become an adult. It is why I don't fully find Connie's character development in the revival to be so far fetched: she comes from the exact unhealthy background that would produce a person that would do stuff like that.
 
LordofCringe7206 Vol. 2 dijo:
If there was one couple from the show I expected to get divorced, it was Minh and Khan. More so than even Nancy and Dale. Not that the original series failed to give them redeemable qualities or show that they some good structures in their marriage, but it was clear that neither one was healthy for their own good. They were always they stereotypical asian tiger parents forcing too much onto their own daughter and were obsessed with obtaining high success in life. It isn't shocking that they burned themselves out eventually. Especially when Kahn was shown in the original series to easily fall to the toxic influences of others, often having to be reeled back into sanity by somebody of a more positive influence.

I can envision them both being unhappy and just putting on a facade until their only child left the nest to become an adult. It is why I don't fully find Connie's character development in the revival to be so far fetched: she comes from the exact unhealthy background that would produce a person that would do stuff like that.
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I mean you're not wrong...

But if you can make it through this together:

I mean... she didn't divorce him after "redneck bride" why not? You've already been through the worst together.
 
I finally watched it and I get being baffled at the absurd RT scores (it's definitely not 95% level quality or whatever absurd number it was) but to claim it was only 50/50 quality? I definitely don't agree with that. I get the feeling sometimes you guys want things to be bad and fail and then when they don't, you post here about how you think that it was in fact bad and it only didn't fail because those damn normies are retarded. It is firmly better than the later seasons rot of KotH and was overall pretty good. My criticisms line up with a lot of what's already been said.
  1. Kahn's new voice actor is terrible and phones it in, which is strange considering I thought the other "racially accurate" recasts were fine. At least they poked fun at these dumb recastings with the Mel Blanc joke, so I'm almost certain it was in fact a Disney mandate.
  2. Some characters do retain a bit of their later seasons flanderization, like Bill, Dale and (at times) Peggy, but I thought it was balanced out by other characters getting more fleshed out. Bobby was absolutely the best part of the season and I hope they continue to have him share the protagonist spot with Hank going forward. His plotlines were great and he actually ended up the funniest character of the season.
  3. The final "lesson" of the Tate episode was kind of bad. Hank absolutely would hate manosphere grifters but the way he went about criticizing them at the end of the episode did feel out of character. For one, Hank absolutely would hate women hating on short dudes and in general I think they could have equally tackled women having absurd expectations on dating sites. The fact that it was written by the Velma writer makes sense. At least Hank was fine with the whole experience until the women hate began so it was nice to see that writer understand that it's okay for characters like Hank to actually like masculine activities.
  4. I wasn't sure about Connie at first but I think they ended up making a really good point about how second generation Asians (or second generation immigrants in general) who go off to college end up. They compensate so much for their strict upbringing by becoming loudly and obnoxiously liberal, and I think the show did a good job showing that Connie lost herself by going that route while still trying to get her parents' approval by dating Chane. I honestly hope she and Bobby do end up together, the episode where they discover that they both have new interests and bond over how they've changed was a great message.
  5. The animation was as janky as the trailers indicated it would be, but I got used to it. Digital animation will never match the older stuff from the late 90s and early 2000s.
Outside of these things I thought the show fell right back into the rhythm of how it used to be. The jokes were on point and blew every other animated revival (and even other animated shows still airing) outside of Beavis and Butthead out of the water and despite my quibbles about the specifics of the Tate episode I think they did a good job of matching the morals of the new episodes with the morals of the old episodes. Bobby and Hank's relationship was great and I'm glad they didn't go the route of having their relationship strained from some dumb drama, they didn't do any obnoxious Trump commentary like everyone was fearing, and all the "the modern world is different!!!" jokes were funny because it seemed like they were only included if the writer believed they could actually make them funny. The timeskip was also a great idea because unlike other revivals I am now actually thinking about some of the fun things they can do in further episodes, which means it did its job of shaking up the formula and creating new writing opportunities.
 
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I finished off the season last night and I have to stick to my opinion that it's a huge mixed bag that at best felt like good fanfic writing. The portrayal of Connie and Chane's relationship being essentially just Connie coping the whole time until it falls apart was definitely a smarter writing choice then portraying "ethical non-monogamy" as a good thing.

The Andrew Tate episode portraying his stand-in as ultimately a wimp who relies on mommy's money I also find counterproductive given it clashes with the reality of Andrew Tate being rich due to exploiting women and scamming directionless young men. The fact that the former is never brought up at all and the latter is never really at the forefront and undercut by the fact his mother funded the operation really undermines any real criticism of Tate. The unironic use of the virgin vs chad meme did make me lol though.

Overall the whole season was better then I expected but at the same time it really still doesn't scratch the itch that the orignal run of KOTH did for me.
 
If nothing else, the hype and enthusiasm might bode well for the chances of another season. They didn't exactly nail it this time but they did enough right that I'm optimistic the jankiness might smooth out a bit in season 15, which seems to have been greenlit.
 
I liked at the W library basically everybody was like Dale
it was enough to acknowledge that Dale's a lot less of an outlier now and it was a joke
 
Dick Lickieta dijo:
The portrayal of Connie and Chane's relationship being essentially just Connie coping the whole time until it falls apart was definitely a smarter writing choice then portraying "ethical non-monogamy" as a good thing.
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God, the people on /co/ and elsewhere losing their shit over Connie "being a whore" was intolerable. I was really nervous before the show aired on how they were going to handle the situation but they wrote it well. People act like the whole thing was out of character for Connie and it really wasn't. Unless I'm forgetting something I didn't get the impression that Connie was slutting it up either like people were saying. I think she slept around as much as Bobby was depicted of doing, more or less. Which if people genuinely thought she was going to stay a pure virgin waifu for Bobby... lol. That's more out of character than the ENM shit.
 
I think the reason the Andrew Tate episode feels as weird and out of place as it does is because it does that typical reddit thing where it takes a person the progressive left doesn't like and just spends 30 minutes going "see! see! look at baddy mcbadguy Ultra Hitler 5000! Look how bad he is! See! See!"

This is something KOTH never did during it's original run, hell the reboot doesn't even do this except for this one episode.

If there's a season 2 I hope Judge has the good sense to fire the Velma writer who wrote this episode.
 
Not writing a long ass review, but fuck am I glad I didn't pay to watch this fucking slop.

  • Every new recast voice was fucking terrible, Dale especially. The voice pitch was close but monotone, absolutely none of Dale's fluctuating emotions in his lines. He was at least written pretty on point, but poor execution. The new VA should be shot.
  • Throughout the season it's glaringly obvious that they were farming nostalgia like every other Millennial written remake/reboot by making sure to show all the old, major characters "All Grown Up". It felt to a point where they didn't give a shit what the episode was about, just shoehorn that person in there, the GH + Andrew Tate episode kinda emphasized that. I just couldn't keep my attention focused on that one it was so stupid.
  • Most all of the jokes or topics were obviously written to make sure that Reddit would be buzzing about it. From Hank saying that "changing Samoas to (whatever they called it) due to "being offensive" was "good" to the non monogamous bullshit and the cultural appropriation episode. I get that a lot of it was tongue in cheek, but my God it was all just so fucking cringe
  • They never really examined why Hank loved soccer other than he thought it was "beautiful".
New season was bad and they should feel bad. My optimistic side hopes that the whole thing ends up being a flop in the long run and they don't get more episodes, but I'm pretty sure I've been seeing reviews eating this shit up like a certain paper plate collector we know.
 
Jace on ice dijo:
I think the reason the Andrew Tate episode feels as weird and out of place as it does is because it does that typical reddit thing where it takes a person the progressive left doesn't like and just spends 30 minutes going "see! see! look at baddy mcbadguy Ultra Hitler 5000! Look how bad he is! See! See!"

This is something KOTH never did during it's original run, hell the reboot doesn't even do this except for this one episode
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This guy came pretty close.
 
XYZpdq Jr. dijo:
it took me a minute to realize it wasn't a gag that he was talking about the field's grass "and the game isn't too bad either" or something
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As I was typing, I realized this but that was a really retarded explanation. Literally any sport that has grass could have filled the space there, but I guess there aren't a lot of sports in KSA that involve grass.
 
S7 E12:
John Redcorn: "a big strong boy like Joseph can be very good, or very bad. He needs a vision quest to guide him."
Hank: "vision quest?"
John: " all cultures have a similar right of passage. Your people have a 'bar mitzvah'"
Hank: "uh, we're not Jewish."
John: "... really?"

kek
 
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I finally watched the new season and was surprised on how good it was.
Especially after futurama shitshow.
Bobby was a highlight hands down. Couldnt imagine him better if i tried.
Sure a some recasts were a stinker, but i wished they changed Bobby's voice. It wasnt bad but it seems like he never really hit puberty.
Also shouldnt he be older?
I remember he was like 12 in 2k episode
 
Lithos dijo:
Still puzzled by G.H.'s retcon. In the eight years, Bobby's 21-ish, but somehow G.H. who at most was time-skipped to three by the end of the series, is now... 16?
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They needed to age GH up enough so he could call himself a "soyboy beta male cuck with no gf" (actual quote from episode)

I think this probably my biggest issue with the remake. I already live in 2025, I know how clownpilled it is, I can hear the fucking honking from my apartment.

I don't need a TV show going "whoa! All gender bathrooms! Isn't that whacky?"

Koth worked best as a 2000s period piece.
 
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